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| Quote ="Luppylad"Think the fact schofield is tipping us for bottom says it all.he like some doesnt have rose tinted specs and sees it how it is.where a team that struggled to compete never mind win games over last season and half.with virtually the same squad as those times we can only hope last and poaching can make a massive difference and the players who where really good a couple years ago peform again but there is that worry that maybe they where in there peak then.
Ill know doubt get stick for this but its just about been realistic we will struggle to stay up..not saying we will go down but deffo think we have battle on hands'"
How the hell does it, Schofield has never tipped us correctly ever.
I love the way you use him to back your limp argument when it suits.
I also love the way anyone who doesn't share your myopic miserable view is 'rose-tinted'.
I also love the way you feel you're some sort of RL sage full of wisdom telling us saps how life really is.
I also love your disclaimer at the end, of course you know you'll get some stick from some because that's what you want, you are in love with misery, go-ahead enjoy, you and Schofield would make great drinking partners because he too likes wallowing in self-pity.
Other than those corrections you're welcome to your opinions.
Up the Trin.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Think the fact schofield is tipping us for bottom says it all.he like some doesnt have rose tinted specs and sees it how it is.where a team that struggled to compete never mind win games over last season and half.with virtually the same squad as those times we can only hope last and poaching can make a massive difference and the players who where really good a couple years ago peform again but there is that worry that maybe they where in there peak then.
Ill know doubt get stick for this but its just about been realistic we will struggle to stay up..not saying we will go down but deffo think we have battle on hands'"
I wouldn’t back Schofield to pick the winner of the boat race if Oxford were disqualified 2 days before the race. He’s absolutely gash at predictions and has always picked us as the easy option
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| Quote ="Jose"I wouldn’t back Schofield to pick the winner of the boat race if Oxford were disqualified 2 days before the race. He’s absolutely gash at predictions and has always picked us as the easy option'"
Correct, but facts don't suit some people.
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| In the back room we have strengthened considerably in my opinion and this along with recruitment on the conditioning will I hope make the difference.
When you look at the current squad to 2020 we have lost some considerable depth in some positions.
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Now out of these I’ll be brutally honest in that only BB and Koppy are losses in terms of lessening the quality of the first team.
Mason Lino brings some much added quality (we hope) in the halfs and kicking which has been one of our problems the past 2 seasons.
The other issue for me is props. There’s a lot of discussion on whether what we have is enough. For me it isn’t. Last season I believe we had many games where we had props injured and we struggled to make metres and impact down the middle. It was glaringly obvious in a number of games with there being 100s of metres difference between the two.
Baring in mind we struggled the middles in terms of injuries and availability last season and are two props lighter I honestly do think this is an area for concern.
I also don’t think we should be rushing out and signing any prop forward and we need players that will improve us only.
If we go in as we are I’m happy with the squad but don’t think the props are strong enough in depth or ability as they are.
I’m hoping with the continued growth of players like Crowther, Batch, Jowitt who are starting to mature and the investment in back room we can offset that loss in depth from the above players.
So I feel 2 props are needed still.
I’d love it if we sign Battye but still think we could do with another prop who can eat up the hard yards. Easier said than done so I don’t envy the club looking g for that player!
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| Quote ="vastman"How the hell does it, Schofield has never tipped us correctly ever.
I love the way you use him to back your limp argument when it suits.
I also love the way anyone who doesn't share your myopic miserable view is 'rose-tinted'.
I also love the way you feel you're some sort of RL sage full of wisdom telling us saps how life really is.
I also love your disclaimer at the end, of course you know you'll get some stick from some because that's what you want, you are in love with misery, go-ahead enjoy, you and Schofield would make great drinking partners because he too likes wallowing in self-pity.
Other than those corrections you're welcome to your opinions.
Up the Trin.'"
I love how easy you are too...
Oh and the disclaimer at the end is due to people lile yourself with very little knowledge and spends all day on here..it was only a week ago i said about losing a couple of players and been shot down but hang on one of those players is no longer here..funny that
Ad for Schofield im actually in shock why the paper didnt approach you instead you seem to suggest you know everything
As it goes i hope we are both very happy when wslking put of the ground during the season has where winning games
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"In the back room we have strengthened considerably in my opinion and this along with recruitment on the conditioning will I hope make the difference.
When you look at the current squad to 2020 we have lost some considerable depth in some positions.
Bjb*
Kirmond
Atkins
Gigot
Koppy*
Gwaze
Now out of these I’ll be brutally honest in that only BB and Koppy are losses in terms of lessening the quality of the first team.
Mason Lino brings some much added quality (we hope) in the halfs and kicking which has been one of our problems the past 2 seasons.
The other issue for me is props. There’s a lot of discussion on whether what we have is enough. For me it isn’t. Last season I believe we had many games where we had props injured and we struggled to make metres and impact down the middle. It was glaringly obvious in a number of games with there being 100s of metres difference between the two.
Baring in mind we struggled the middles in terms of injuries and availability last season and are two props lighter I honestly do think this is an area for concern.
I also don’t think we should be rushing out and signing any prop forward and we need players that will improve us only.
If we go in as we are I’m happy with the squad but don’t think the props are strong enough in depth or ability as they are.
I’m hoping with the continued growth of players like Crowther, Batch, Jowitt who are starting to mature and the investment in back room we can offset that loss in depth from the above players.
So I feel 2 props are needed still.
I’d love it if we sign Battye but still think we could do with another prop who can eat up the hard yards. Easier said than done so I don’t envy the club looking g for that player!'"
2 props are needed 1 or 2 injuries and where buggered in that postion deffo but a thing for me is players getting back to where they where 2 years ago i think its fair to say for different reasons not all there own fault a good amount of players form dropped in ladt 18 months hence a win ratio of about 8 in 40 so these lads need to get back to where they where.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"I love how easy you are too...
Oh and the disclaimer at the end is due to people lile yourself with very little knowledge and spends all day on here..it was only a week ago i said about losing a couple of players and been shot down but hang on one of those players is no longer here..funny that
Ad for Schofield im actually in shock why the paper didnt approach you instead you seem to suggest you know everything
As it goes i hope we are both very happy when wslking put of the ground during the season has where winning games'"
You’re surely not taking the credit for Gigot leaving are you????
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| Quote ="Luppylad"I love how easy you are too...
Oh and the disclaimer at the end is due to people lile yourself with very little knowledge and spends all day on here..it was only a week ago i said about losing a couple of players and been shot down but hang on one of those players is no longer here..funny that
Ad for Schofield im actually in shock why the paper didnt approach you instead you seem to suggest you know everything
As it goes i hope we are both very happy when wslking put of the ground during the season has where winning games'"
I seriously think I’ve forgotten more about RL than you’ll ever know, but hey what do I know. Carry on with your clapped out mantra if you wish. I’m certain that if we are poor next season you’ll be over these forums like a rash. I’m equally certain if we do well you’ll either disappear or come out with some trite nonsense about being happy to eat humble pie. Either way I just can’t wait
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| Quote ="vastman"I seriously think I’ve forgotten more about RL than you’ll ever know, but hey what do I know. Carry on with your clapped out mantra if you wish. I’m certain that if we are poor next season you’ll be over these forums like a rash. I’m equally certain if we do well you’ll either disappear or come out with some trite nonsense about being happy to eat humble pie. Either way I just can’t wait
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Believe me you aint you even had to ask about one of our current first team players cos you knew nothing about him.see i didnt need to .....
No i wont dissappear im not like you my life to be on here every min of every day like you but i have said we will struggle i hope we dont and ill be more than happy to be wrong and if im right ill cerainly not gloat.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Believe me you aint you even had to ask about one of our current first team players cos you knew nothing about him.see i didnt need to .....
No i wont dissappear im not like you my life to be on here every min of every day like you but i have said we will struggle i hope we dont and ill be more than happy to be wrong and if im right ill cerainly not gloat.'"
I really don’t know what you’re taking about now.
The only response I can muster is, whatever
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| Quote ="Jose"You’re surely not taking the credit for Gigot leaving are you????'"
Credit no where have i took credit its more of a " i dont know what im talking about" and without checking belive you was one suggested my thoughts of players simply leaving been somwhat stupid (without that been the correct wording)and basically been laughed off but thwln only a few days later the same thing happening.now i just hope a player comes in who will be more use to the team
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| Quote ="vastman"I really don’t know what you’re taking about now.
The only response I can muster is, whatever
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Asking another forum member how good/what type of player a certain new member of the squad is.....very supprised as you know so much you needed to ask.
Thats why you cant muster a response of any sense
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Asking another forum member how good/what type of player a certain new member of the squad is.....very supprised as you know so much you needed to ask.
Thats why you cant muster a response of any sense
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Neither of you know the other so it's a pretty useless argument. If you want to chat just PM each other. Otherwise just leave it alone. You've each made your point.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Asking another forum member how good/what type of player a certain new member of the squad is.....very supprised as you know so much you needed to ask.
Thats why you cant muster a response of any sense
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Sorry PT but I’d love to know who this new player is, I think that’s a fair question as he seems to be rather pathetically be claiming all fans should have a full knowledge of every RL player on the planet.
So far the only new player we’ve signed is Lino. Any person who didn’t need to visit Wiki to find out who he was is a liar imho.
Even if our Lupset legend knew who he was which I doubt he can’t know how good he is seeing as he branded him ‘an unknown quantity’.
Knowing a lot about RL has nothing to do with how many players you know, you could do that by collecting the RL equivalent of Panini cards. I’m sure CC will tell you there is a lot more to it than that.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Credit no where have i took credit its more of a " i dont know what im talking about" and without checking belive you was one suggested my thoughts of players simply leaving been somwhat stupid (without that been the correct wording)and basically been laughed off but thwln only a few days later the same thing happening.now i just hope a player comes in who will be more use to the team'"
You have no idea whether he ‘simply left’ or not? They may have had to pay him off in full? That’s the problem. No one really knows anything on here! We are all guessing
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| Quote ="Jose"You have no idea whether he ‘simply left’ or not? They may have had to pay him off in full? That’s the problem. No one really knows anything on here! We are all guessing'"
To be fair though most people on here are just speculating for fun without malice. A small core has an agenda against the club full stop, baffles me but they do.
For me, every season is a fresh start and every player has a clean slate. If 30+ years watching the game has taught me anything it's that what happened the previous season is largely irrelevant, unless of course you desperately want it to be.
Two examples.
2003, just avoided relegation with a team considered poor by most. Following season with more or less the same team, 2004, we very nearly made the GF.
2015: Again last-minute reprieve. 2016, new coach after a shaky start sees the best try seen at Wakefield this millennium, followed by two outstanding seasons, certainly entertainment-wise, 2017/2018. Then after a great start in 2019 (top 4 for a while and looking genuine challengers), injuries hit and the wheels fell off.
Nobody could predict the above. Always best to judge after the event.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry PT but I’d love to know who this new player is, I think that’s a fair question as he seems to be rather pathetically be claiming all fans should have a full knowledge of every RL player on the planet.
So far the only new player we’ve signed is Lino. Any person who didn’t need to visit Wiki to find out who he was is a liar imho.
Even if our Lupset legend knew who he was which I doubt he can’t know how good he is seeing as he branded him ‘an unknown quantity’.
Knowing a lot about RL has nothing to do with how many players you know, you could do that by collecting the RL equivalent of Panini cards. I’m sure CC will tell you there is a lot more to it than that.'"
See there you go jumping to conclusions again who mentioned lino i didnt im on about somone who came through our own ranks and had you bothered to watch academy youd know a bit about him also lupset legend with this i can only assume by this you think im from lupset yet again vastman wrong
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| Quote ="Luppylad"See there you go jumping to conclusions again who mentioned lino i didnt im on about somone who came through our own ranks and had you bothered to watch academy youd know a bit about him also lupset legend with this i can only assume by this you think im from lupset yet again vastman wrong'"
So you mention that after the event, well go on then enlighten me who it was, it's not a state secret, we are all friends on here
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| Quote ="Jose"You have no idea whether he ‘simply left’ or not? They may have had to pay him off in full? That’s the problem. No one really knows anything on here! We are all guessing'"
No guesses he aint been fully paid off MC is one of the best at what he does do you really think he would give a player a years full wages and just let him go esp when the plsyer went to the club first..really
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| Quote ="Luppylad"No guesses he aint been fully paid off MC is one of the best at what he does do you really think he would give a player a years full wages and just let him go esp when the plsyer went to the club first..really'"
You don't know that though, that's the point. You're just a faceless voice with zero credibility just like the rest of us. You must have an ego bigger than mine if you think you talk with any authority, you don't.
So as a guess, I'd tend to believe that after statutory payments and a small gratuity he went by 'mutual consent' and his full contract was not paid up. Pretty certain that 'homesickness' is not an adequate criterion to have your contract paid in full. Again I must stress that's a guess from me.
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| Quote ="vastman"So you mention that after the event, well go on then enlighten me who it was, it's not a state secret, we are all friends on here
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Look through your posts you asked what a player was like as you didnt know anything about him for what its worth and not that i know much along with yousuf dane is for me one lad with alot of potential and could have a very big future...
Or and by the wayvi dont have an agenda with club i think MC is doing a great job with what he has, the squad is what it is a little unbalanced in my view but covid aint helped and i really hope im wrong but with the squad and performances of the last 18 months cant see anything else than a relagation balttle one i do think we will fair better than leugh in
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| Quote ="vastman"You don't know that though, that's the point. You're just a faceless voice with zero credibility just like the rest of us. You must have an ego bigger than mine if you think you talk with any authority, you don't.
So as a guess, I'd tend to believe that after statutory payments and a small gratuity he went by 'mutual consent' and his full contract was not paid up. Pretty certain that 'homesickness' is not an adequate criterion to have your contract paid in full. Again I must stress that's a guess from me.'"
And why do you think i put on here about this player going about 3 or 4 days before
Anyway its irrelevant i got put down cos of my what turned out correct assessment.
Thats end of it now its getting boaring
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| Quote ="Luppylad"And why do you think i put on here about this player going about 3 or 4 days before
Anyway its irrelevant i got put down cos of my what turned out correct assessment.
Thats end of it now its getting boaring'"
You are boring that's for sure.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Look through your posts you asked what a player was like as you didnt know anything about him for what its worth and not that i know much along with yousuf dane is for me one lad with alot of potential and could have a very big future...
Or and by the wayvi dont have an agenda with club i think MC is doing a great job with what he has, the squad is what it is a little unbalanced in my view but covid aint helped and i really hope im wrong but with the squad and performances of the last 18 months cant see anything else than a relagation balttle one i do think we will fair better than leugh in'"
You mean DANE WINDROW! So that's the whole basis of your argument, I asked for peoples opinions on one player and that makes me clueless
Yep, your right his is boring if that's where we are at.
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