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| Quote ="musson"Love it when you act like a child vastman, shows you for the vile little man you are
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Him and Solomona down that left edge were dynamite.'"
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The reality is that we wouldn't find out until he played, whoever he is.
There are some quality forwards who just can't break through because the players ahead of them are just too high in quality. There are some who don't break through because they have the skill but not the attitude. David Fifita was regarded as a fringe player at Cronulla. His twin brother was the best player in a grand final and a regular Tongan international. He just has that little extra bit of fire that David doesn't have, but David has enough natural ability to make it in the super league.
Some quality players don't make it because they don't have the same calibre of players around them, or because they just don't take to the weather or lifestyle.
Whoever it is, we won't find out if we've got a rock or a diamond until he plays.
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| Quote ="Schunter"And don't forget Semi!'"
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| Quote ="vastman"I loved Tadulala but his strike rate wasn’t great. Best winger ever though for running the ball out, like a second row on the wing.'"
One of my favourites going even further back was Sovatabua! That guy could score a try and could leap like a gazelle.
As for props. I’m sure there will be some gems trying to break through in the NRL in their early-mid 20s. I think we need to be looking at these. 3/4 of the props we have are 30+ so the experience is already there. |
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"One of my favourites going even further back was Sovatabua! That guy could score a try and could leap like a gazelle.
As for props. I’m sure there will be some gems trying to break through in the NRL in their early-mid 20s. I think we need to be looking at these. [size=1503/4 of the props we have are 30+ so the experience is already there.'"
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This may be stated elsewhere on the thread but who have we definitely got as things stand?
Arona
Green?
Fafita?
Aydin
Gwaze?
Loaned:
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Tangata - gone? |
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Some good video clips and background on Leivaha Pulu not that we'll be signing him...Stephen Kearney knows his stuff and rates him...
https://nzwarriors.com/threads/leivaha-pulu.56229/
On his return to Australia, Pulu caught the eye of the Titans after a strong season with the Wyong Roos, and made his NRL debut aged 25 in March, 2016. Pulu's difficult path to the top has made him more hungry to succeed, as he's all to aware of the alternative.
"It has made me more appreciative of everything, to this day," said Pulu. "It was pretty hurtful at times but you have to keep going and hopefully let the tide change.
"I was lucky enough to get a break with the Titans. I wanted to give it my best shot and if it didn't turn out, at least I knew I gave it my all. Now I've got the chance to do more."
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney is a fan, and it seems likely Pulu, who has 45 NRL games behind him, will be part of the team to face the Rabbitohs in Perth in round one. At 1.92m and 111kg, he offers power and an intimidating edge, something sorely needed in the Warriors pack.
"He's brought a lot to the team, made a strong impression," said Kearney. "He's a guy that has worked hard to get where he is now and that shows . . . he's certainly putting his hand up." |
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Some good video clips and background on Leivaha Pulu not that we'll be signing him...Stephen Kearney knows his stuff and rates him...
https://nzwarriors.com/threads/leivaha-pulu.56229/
On his return to Australia, Pulu caught the eye of the Titans after a strong season with the Wyong Roos, and made his NRL debut aged 25 in March, 2016. Pulu's difficult path to the top has made him more hungry to succeed, as he's all to aware of the alternative.
"It has made me more appreciative of everything, to this day," said Pulu. "It was pretty hurtful at times but you have to keep going and hopefully let the tide change.
"I was lucky enough to get a break with the Titans. I wanted to give it my best shot and if it didn't turn out, at least I knew I gave it my all. Now I've got the chance to do more."
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney is a fan, and it seems likely Pulu, who has 45 NRL games behind him, will be part of the team to face the Rabbitohs in Perth in round one. At 1.92m and 111kg, he offers power and an intimidating edge, something sorely needed in the Warriors pack.
"He's brought a lot to the team, made a strong impression," said Kearney. "He's a guy that has worked hard to get where he is now and that shows . . . he's certainly putting his hand up." | |
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This may be stated elsewhere on the thread but who have we definitely got as things stand?
Arona
Green?
Fafita?
Aydin
Gwaze?
Loaned:
Navarette - gone?
Tangata - gone?'"
I've gone back and checked
Fifita, Arona and Green are all signed for next year. As is Aydin
King and Kopy were out of contract and have left
Gwaze is out of contract but I think is still talking contracts
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| Quote ="PopTart"I've gone back and checked
Fifita, Arona and Green are all signed for next year. As is Aydin
King and Kopy were out of contract and have left
Gwaze is out of contract but I think is still talking contracts
Navarette and Tangata were loans so unless we either extend or sign them, they go back to their clubs.'"
Pretty much it. For me it’s between Aydin and Gwaze and Aydin is signed up. Don’t think we have luxury of bringing on 2 young props when we are reducing the budget yet want to improve the quality.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I've gone back and checked
Fifita, Arona and Green are all signed for next year. As is Aydin
King and Kopy were out of contract and have left
Gwaze is out of contract but I think is still talking contracts
Navarette and Tangata were loans so unless we either extend or sign them, they go back to their clubs.'"
I’m sure I read that Gwaze has been let go. Quite liked him to be honest but the coaching staff see things we don’t. |
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Pretty much it. For me it’s between Aydin and Gwaze and Aydin is signed up. Don’t think we have luxury of bringing on 2 young props when we are reducing the budget yet want to improve the quality.
I would probably take Navarette. Not sure why he didn’t feature much towards end but I like his aggressive no nonesense running style.'"
I’d keep either Naverette or Tangata, both solid players. Neither will ever be the star player we seem to want so probably wouldn’t keep both. |
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| Quote ="vastman"I’m sure I read that Gwaze has been let go. Quite liked him to be honest but the coaching staff see things we don’t.'"
Gwaze has gone. Apparently landed a deal with a club outside SL but haven't seen an announcement |
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| Quote ="vastman"I’d keep either Naverette or Tangata, both solid players. Neither will ever be the star player we seem to want so probably wouldn’t keep both.'"
Both solid forwards. If we are to keep one, I suspect it will be Tangata. For Navarette, after Catalans and Wigan, we are probably a step-down. For Tangata, he probably regards us as a step-up. For those reasons, I imagine it would be easier to keep Tangata than Navarette. |
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Quote ="asmadasa"Some good video clips and background on Leivaha Pulu not that we'll be signing him...Stephen Kearney knows his stuff and rates him...
https://nzwarriors.com/threads/leivaha-pulu.56229/
On his return to Australia, Pulu caught the eye of the Titans after a strong season with the Wyong Roos, and made his NRL debut aged 25 in March, 2016. Pulu's difficult path to the top has made him more hungry to succeed, as he's all to aware of the alternative.
"It has made me more appreciative of everything, to this day," said Pulu. "It was pretty hurtful at times but you have to keep going and hopefully let the tide change.
"I was lucky enough to get a break with the Titans. I wanted to give it my best shot and if it didn't turn out, at least I knew I gave it my all. Now I've got the chance to do more."
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney is a fan, and it seems likely Pulu, who has 45 NRL games behind him, will be part of the team to face the Rabbitohs in Perth in round one. At 1.92m and 111kg, he offers power and an intimidating edge, something sorely needed in the Warriors pack.
"He's brought a lot to the team, made a strong impression," said Kearney. "He's a guy that has worked hard to get where he is now and that shows . . . he's certainly putting his hand up."'"
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Quote ="asmadasa"Some good video clips and background on Leivaha Pulu not that we'll be signing him...Stephen Kearney knows his stuff and rates him...
https://nzwarriors.com/threads/leivaha-pulu.56229/
On his return to Australia, Pulu caught the eye of the Titans after a strong season with the Wyong Roos, and made his NRL debut aged 25 in March, 2016. Pulu's difficult path to the top has made him more hungry to succeed, as he's all to aware of the alternative.
"It has made me more appreciative of everything, to this day," said Pulu. "It was pretty hurtful at times but you have to keep going and hopefully let the tide change.
"I was lucky enough to get a break with the Titans. I wanted to give it my best shot and if it didn't turn out, at least I knew I gave it my all. Now I've got the chance to do more."
Warriors coach Stephen Kearney is a fan, and it seems likely Pulu, who has 45 NRL games behind him, will be part of the team to face the Rabbitohs in Perth in round one. At 1.92m and 111kg, he offers power and an intimidating edge, something sorely needed in the Warriors pack.
"He's brought a lot to the team, made a strong impression," said Kearney. "He's a guy that has worked hard to get where he is now and that shows . . . he's certainly putting his hand up."'"
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| Quote ="vastman"I’m sure I read that Gwaze has been let go. Quite liked him to be honest but the coaching staff see things we don’t.'"
Shame, the little bits I’ve seen have been promising. |
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I'd definitely give Moa a go improvement on Green and co for sure. Ben Flower glad we escaped that one injury prone thug.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I'd definitely give Moa a go improvement on Green and co for sure. Ben Flower glad we escaped that one injury prone thug.'"
Escaped what? There is no evidence we were even remotely interested in Flowers.
Anyway if Flowers is a thug, so go on then what does that make Moa? Moa is a serial killer by comparison, let’s be serious shall we. |
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| Quote ="PopTart"But the same can be said of most incidents that result in a penalty.
It was a split second. It wasn't premeditated.
No different to Willie Mason hitting Fielden or Sculthorpe and Farrell going at it.
The only difference is Lance H couldn't continue the fight. It was a split second.'"
Knocking him out was one thing but, belting him again, whilst unconscious, was pretty shocking, especially in such a high profile game.
As for taking Hohaia out of the game, it may well have been part of the game plan, even if the "execution" went a little OTT. |
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Knocking him out was one thing but, belting him again, whilst unconscious, was pretty shocking, especially in such a high profile game.
As for taking Hohaia out of the game, it may well have been part of the game plan, even if the "execution" went a little OTT.'"
I don't see it like that.
I don't think Flower realised he was out when he started throwing the second punch.
And it was Hohaia who was the aggressor. He took Flower out when there was a potential try on.
It's clearly wrong to throw a punch but because it ended badly people forget it was started by him.
I always feel its unfair when some little guy squares up to a big guy and then cries foul when he gets one back. Either stay in your weight group or live with the results. |
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No one has mentioned Remy Casty. I probably rate him higher than the others being discussed.
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Problem with Casty, Moa and Flower is that they’re old (well in terms of RL age anyway).
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't see it like that.
I don't think Flower realised he was out when he started throwing the second punch.
And it was Hohaia who was the aggressor. He took Flower out when there was a potential try on.
It's clearly wrong to throw a punch but because it ended badly people forget it was started by him.
I always feel its unfair when some little guy squares up to a big guy and then cries foul when he gets one back. Either stay in your weight group or live with the results.'"
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| Quote ="Willzay"Problem with Casty, Moa and Flower is that they’re old (well in terms of RL age anyway).'"
never understand this he's too old comment
didn't Steve Menzies play competitively to 40 yr old
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| Quote ="snowie"never understand this he's too old comment
didn't Steve Menzies play competitively to 40 yr old
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Agree with you to a point.....so why are we releasing Koppy then do you think? I don't mind Arona being prop, but he really isn't one is he, so just Fifita & Green as out and out props, we really need 2 to come in surely. One major criticism of Chester the last couple of seasons has been his squads, they just seem lopsided with 6 or 7 players basically vying for 2 spots, then not enough to barely cover other positions. At least with it not starting 'till March we have plenty of time to get a couple in.......hopefully  |
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