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| Quote ="vastman"After a week of fawning around the worst elements of black society (no worse or bigger than white) the police have lost the streets. Two beaten randomly for entertainment by youth who now feel untoucheable!
The moment those idiotic coppers took the knee it was obvious to anyone with a brain that they would be on them soon enough.
Pandering to any part of society by the police can only lead to the destruction of law and order.
Finally where the hell is Boris, the most gutless PM to ever live. He has a huge mandate but hides away like a frightened boy as anarchy starts to reign..
I’m a true blue but if this man has any better qualities than Corbyn I’m yet to see them. He’s not fit to lick Mays boots and who’s have thought that.
Tragic, Attlee, Thatcher hell even Blair love or hate them there would have been some action by now.'"
I’ve just been reading on BBC news (I know, sick bag ready) Baden - Powell Statue is to be removed from Poole Quay, for it’s own safety, on police advice. Honestly, you couldn’t make this up. What next? disband the whole cubs,scouts, brownies, (Not a racist remark) girl guides (not a sexist remark ) and all the other groups associated with this great organisation. I’m afraid it’s true, The Lunatics really have Taken over the Asylum. Decent society are now running scared from the Far Left, aided and abetted by gutless politicians and the national police force.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I’ve just been reading on BBC news (I know, sick bag ready) Baden - Powell Statue is to be removed from Poole Quay, for it’s own safety, on police advice. Honestly, you couldn’t make this up. What next? disband the whole cubs,scouts, brownies, (Not a racist remark) girl guides (not a sexist remark ) and all the other groups associated with this great organisation. I’m afraid it’s true, The Lunatics really have Taken over the Asylum. Decent society are now running scared from the Far Left, aided and abetted by gutless politicians and the national police force.'"
Chaos has certainly ensued.
With Baden Powell, the movement that he created is one of the most inclusive and longstanding of all youth activities and can only be applauded.
I've no idea of his politics and for the Scout movement, it actually doesn't matter.
Churchill, was the country's leader at the time of victory in the war but, his politics make Donald Trump look like a left wing radical.
Having said that, celebrating the slave trade and it's leaders seems obscene and where on earth do we go with the British Empire and Commonwealth ?
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| In response to the rape and pillage carried out by the Vikings I am now going to begin a boycott of Danish Bacon and Pastries.
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| The comments about the police should be directed at the leaders and justice system not the actual police.
For me it's the same as rugby refs against football refs.
I'm sure the football refs would rather take control but they'll lose their job if they start sending people off for backchat.
Rugby refs are backed to keep control (and that's starting to drift)
I'm no police state kinda guy but a stronger police force is needed. And that works both ways. They need to get rid of the likes that would kneel and a guys thought until he died or lie about decisions that killed football fans to protect themselves so the honest copper can do his job and be respected for it.
Equally, the police who come to visit me when I've been a victim of some sort should probably be different to the meat head you need on the front line in Vasty's tougher approach. That wide ranging resource needs funding.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Chaos has certainly ensued.
With Baden Powell, the movement that he created is one of the most inclusive and longstanding of all youth activities and can only be applauded.
I've no idea of his politics and for the Scout movement, it actually doesn't matter.
Churchill, was the country's leader at the time of victory in the war but, his politics make Donald Trump look like a left wing radical.
Having said that, celebrating the slave trade and it's leaders seems obscene and where on earth do we go with the British Empire and Commonwealth ?'"
One, Churchill's politics belonged to that era END OF, utterly stupid to equate them to now. Also if you knew your history you would know that if Churchill had a truly great quality it was the ability to be pragmatic and adapt.
There was nothing overly wrong with the British Empire when taken in context. Its legacy is far more positive than negative in my opinion. Nearly all the great non-Euro democracies are a direct consequence of Empire. The list of the world's democracies would be far smaller without it. Think on.
Finally, this 'slave' stuff is utter crap being peddled by people with an agenda. To follow the current logic, should we pull down the Pyramids? They were built by slaves! Of course not because the Liberal elite doesn't care about Egypt, they are far too busy loathing there own for now FREE nation.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The comments about the police should be directed at the leaders and justice system not the actual police.
For me it's the same as rugby refs against football refs.
I'm sure the football refs would rather take control but they'll lose their job if they start sending people off for backchat.
Rugby refs are backed to keep control (and that's starting to drift)
I'm no police state kinda guy but a stronger police force is needed. And that works both ways. They need to get rid of the likes that would kneel and a guys thought until he died or lie about decisions that killed football fans to protect themselves so the honest copper can do his job and be respected for it.
Equally, the police who come to visit me when I've been a victim of some sort should probably be different to the meat head you need on the front line in Vasty's tougher approach. That wide ranging resource needs funding.'"
Horses for courses, springs to mind.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"One, Churchill's politics belonged to that era END OF, utterly stupid to equate them to now. Also if you knew your history you would know that if Churchill had a truly great quality it was the ability to be pragmatic and adapt.
There was nothing overly wrong with the British Empire when taken in context. Its legacy is far more positive than negative in my opinion. Nearly all the great non-Euro democracies are a direct consequence of Empire. The list of the world's democracies would be far smaller without it. Think on.
Finally, this 'slave' stuff is utter crap being peddled by people with an agenda. To follow the current logic, should we pull down the Pyramids? They were built by slaves! Of course not because the Liberal elite doesn't care about Egypt, they are far too busy loathing there own for now FREE nation.
Pathetic.'"
Oh no. How dare the British public want to fight racism in their own country?
I think if you get more enraged about statues coming down rather than why they are coming down, that’s quite telling.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Oh no. How dare the British public want to fight racism in their own country?
I think if you get more enraged about statues coming down rather than why they are coming down, that’s quite telling.'"
Tell me please Willzay, are today’s generation still responsible for the ‘Sins of our Father’s? You seem to hold a very big grudge against someone or something. Let it go, for your own sanity.
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| No grudge here. I’m just curious as to why more people are bothered about statues than racism.
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| I’ve also seen plenty of pictures from around the country of people standing in front of war memorials for “protection”. Guess what the common denominator is.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’ve also seen plenty of pictures from around the country of people standing in front of war memorials for “protection”. Guess what the common denominator is.'"
Do tell.
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| Listening to bbc radio york yesterday caller made a suggestion that the rowntree and Terry family were both involved with slavery in the early days of there business should there be a accountable
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Listening to bbc radio york yesterday caller made a suggestion that the rowntree and Terry family were both involved with slavery in the early days of there business should there be a accountable'"
Well, that’s definitely the end of chocolate oranges then. What’s next, all the white English indulge in a period of self Flagellation.
Whatever happened to “white Lives Matter 2”
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| Quote ="Willzay"Oh no. How dare the British public want to fight racism in their own country?
I think if you get more enraged about statues coming down rather than why they are coming down, that’s quite telling.'"
So you and this bunch of wannabe and mostly overentitled revolutionaries plus a smattering of street thugs represent the British public fighting racism?
How dare you have the utter arrogance to suggest you and the above represent anything like the vast majority of British people, YOU DON'T.
A recent election shows very clearly that the British public VERY much doesn't agree with you.
I'd love to know the incidents of racism you've experienced in the UK. You seem to be a truly hysterical individual as proved by your bizarre rants regarding COVID. You seem to want to be the forums very own Piers Morgan, well done, you've passed.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’ve also seen plenty of pictures from around the country of people standing in front of war memorials for “protection”. Guess what the common denominator is.'"
They're not the band of the opinionated intolerant bunch that you happen to support?
I love this idea you have that anyone who disagrees with Wilzay is some sort of knuckle dragger, you really don't get just how much of a snob and a fascist you actually sound, Your attitude is no different to that of Farage, you're almost identical.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Do tell.'"
You! I suspect. You and your patriotic names and those 'racist' medals on your Avatar. How dare you
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So you and this bunch of wannabe and mostly overentitled revolutionaries plus a smattering of street thugs represent the British public fighting racism?
How dare you have the utter arrogance to suggest you and the above represent anything like the vast majority of British people, YOU DON'T.
A recent election shows very clearly that the British public VERY much doesn't agree with you.
I'd love to know the incidents of racism you've experienced in the UK. You seem to be a truly hysterical individual as proved by your bizarre rants regarding COVID. You seem to want to be the forums very own Piers Morgan, well done, you've passed.'"
An awful lot has changed since the election, recent though it was.
There is usually some kind of militant group that attaches itself to ANY demonstration and uses as an excuse to break the law.
Nobody can condone thuggery of any sort, nobody.
However, since the Covid outbreak, there has been plenty of thought into how the world could be a better place.
We've seen selflessness on a huge scale, with people helping others less fortunate than themselves AND massive appreciation for the NHS, who's staff had their salaries frozen for 10 years by the "caring" party that now "runs" the country.
There is plenty that is wrong with society and now would be a good opportunity to reset some of those things.
No doubt "our NHS" will once again be squeezed when the Tories have to balance the books and instead of clapping on a Thursday evening, Your part w and ill be back to calling them lazy, inefficient and taking benefits from the disabled.
Racism is prevalent across society in the UK but, it's a lot harder to spot if you not getting hit with it.
Just like Covid, some people are in denial.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"They're not the band of the opinionated intolerant bunch that you happen to support?
I love this idea you have that anyone who disagrees with Wilzay is some sort of knuckle dragger, you really don't get just how much of a snob and a fascist you actually sound, Your attitude is no different to that of Farage, you're almost identical.'"
I’m a snob and facist? Somewhere the worlds largest irony meter ha s just exploded.
The group I mention are interestingly all white, all male, most wearing Adidas tracksuit - the characteristics of a typical far right, Tommy Robinson fan club.
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So you and this bunch of wannabe and mostly overentitled revolutionaries plus a smattering of street thugs represent the British public fighting racism?
How dare you have the utter arrogance to suggest you and the above represent anything like the vast majority of British people, YOU DON'T.
A recent election shows very clearly that the British public VERY much doesn't agree with you.
I'd love to know the incidents of racism you've experienced in the UK. You seem to be a truly hysterical individual as proved by your bizarre rants regarding COVID. You seem to want to be the forums very own Piers Morgan, well done, you've passed.'"
Typical far righter claiming I’m the one whose arrogant? You do realise the Prime Minister himself is a racist?
And if I’m Piers Morgan, what does that make you then? Katie Hopkins?
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"You! I suspect. You and your patriotic names and those 'racist' medals on your Avatar. How dare you
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Yes, just one of millions of British people who fought against the fascists, to keep the world free. We now see the rise of fascist Black Lives Movement, starting in the US and now the UK. The World ignored the rise of Fascists in Germany and Italy, let’s see where these new psychopaths end up.
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| If the UK is such a racist country, why are thousands from all around the world queuing up to come over here.
In London schools alone, over 300 different languages are spoken.
Racist country we are not, some of you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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| Kev its you thats miles. Off the mark. I have worked suppling security for years and can assure you without doubt racism out there at all levels.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Kev its you thats miles. Off the mark. I have worked suppling security for years and can assure you without doubt racism out there at all levels.'"
You didn’t answer Kev’s question. If we are such a racist country, why have, and continue to do so, millions of immigrants both legal and illegal, flock to England.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"You didn’t answer Kev’s question. If we are such a racist country, why have, and continue to do so, millions of immigrants both legal and illegal, flock to England.'"
Because, for all its faults, the UK is still a better and more prosperous nation than many, many others.
This doesn't mean that "we" aren't racist.
Look at all the Mexicans wanting to get into the US, and they have a leader more racist than Boris
Or look at the "windrush" generation, coming to the UK and allowed to apply for only the lower paid jobs but, they still believed that this was better than they had
Even the Eastern Europeans, were coming over with nothing because they believed that they would be better off, it doesn't mean that they wouldn't be abused or insulted
Escaping bombs and bullets, even if you were going to be racially abused, would also be a step forward
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I can only rell you my working experience. I assume you are of the opinion that because people chose to come to the uk racism does not exist. Thats a very strange view to hold .
I dont get what point you are trying to make.
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