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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"If that were the case, it would have been a penalty and not a scrum with wakey feed.
Minichello stood up and played the ball. If he had stepped backwards he would have been on top of the wakey player not making any attempted to get out of the way.'"
I suggest you watch a rerun of the game, Mini clearly steps forward. It was as obvious as day.
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| Quote ="RWB"Seen a few saying this and earlier in the season i agreed. Now however i don't, i don't think he is offering anything at the minute. Most sets he won't even touch the ball until the 5th tackle.'"
His distribution is terrible, Miller was constantly reaching above his head / down at his toes which completely kills the attacking threat.
Finn was the slowest half back to ever play the sport but his ability to attack the line and provide an accurate pass to Miller / Grix was second to none.
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| Quote ="wildshot"I suggest you watch a rerun of the game, Mini clearly steps forward. It was as obvious as day.'"
And, as stated a few posts back, if he stepped off the mark, that would be a penalty rather then given as a knock on with wakeys feed.
The referee just got it wrong.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"And, as stated a few posts back, if he stepped off the mark, that would be a penalty rather then given as a knock on with wakeys feed.
The referee just got it wrong.'"
He did, he didn't penalise him!
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Not sure on your basis for this, but the ruck was a joke when Wakefield were defending.
As has been pointed out, Hulls handling in the opening 20 mins was poor but a couple of the knock on's given were simply not knock ons (Minichello plays the ball correctly, wakey player in the ruck doesn't get away or make any effort to move, gets in Houghtons ways, houghton never actually gets to the ball which is now on the prone wakey player still in the ruck. Refs Decision, Knock on by Hull!!!).
Also, the officials policing of keeping the defense back 10 metres for both sides prevented much expansive play.
Overall, it was not one for the purists.'"
But that policing of the 10 really hurt us.
It stunted our attack when we had ball on your line.
You could easily have had 3 different players in the bin because of holding down when we got a break away. The penalty didn't help because you could regroup and get back on side.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"He did, he didn't penalise him!'"
You are missing the point on this.
The referee signaled a knock on and gave a scrum. Nothing to do with stepping off the mark.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But that policing of the 10 really hurt us.
It stunted our attack when we had ball on your line.
You could easily have had 3 different players in the bin because of holding down when we got a break away. The penalty didn't help because you could regroup and get back on side.'"
Likewise, had it not been such a skinny 10, Connor, Tuimevave and Naulago would have had a field day.
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| Why did the ref say a scrum to Hull when he had waved play on and 5 passes later a Hull player dropped the ball and the Wakey player looked to be going in to the clear,though the advantage rule had gone.
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| Quote ="alegend"Why did the ref say a scrum to Hull when he had waved play on and 5 passes later a Hull player dropped the ball and the Wakey player looked to be going in to the clear,though the advantage rule had gone.'"
The ball had originally been tipped by a wakey player. It was a free play. The ref had wiped the tackle count clean to Hull were playing hot potato with it. The final knock on by Hull was irrelevant as it went back to the first offence.
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| I thought free play was not relevant this season? Advantage maybe but not free play.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"The ball had originally been tipped by a wakey player. It was a free play. The ref had wiped the tackle count clean to Hull were playing hot potato with it. The final knock on by Hull was irrelevant as it went back to the first offence.'"
There is no free play this season.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"There is no free play this season.'"
Fair play, I'd missed that.
This is what I have dug up on the rule changes
[iMeanwhile, the removal of the ‘free play’ comes after the overuse of the kick ahead into no man’s land and the subsequent breaks in play which have come about on the back of the rule coming in. Referees will instead have back the discretion to decide when a team’s advantage period is over.[/i
This suggest to me that providing you dont kick the ball on what used to be a free play or you make minimal yards, the ref could still award you the advantage.
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