It is better to fight and lose everything than merely lose everything because we didn't fight, because it's clear that we are on a fast-track to nowhere (or Toronto) if we sit back and wait.

As for your assessment of the grounds upon which we can win, that is why the club has engaged lawyers. They will advise. I'll trust their advice over the advice of anyone on here.

If this is true... and I don't doubt your word... then socialist and true Labour may be an ally in the forthcoming battle... are you in a position to mobilise them?

The section in Private Eye is appropriately called "Rotten Boroughs"

Oh do shut up you boring agenda driven troll. It's been explained a dozen times already, mostly to YOU!

There is no option and you know it so why not do one Jimmy.

People assume I'm a conservative, if I am it's very much to the left.

However I agree, Peter Box is a career politician who only represents himself. Thatcher and Ben were ideologically motivated politicians - not sure as yet regarding Corbyn.

However compared to Box he's flipping Kennedy.

As for a Tory council give me strength. They are every bit as low grade as theirs Labour equivalents. Usually second rate businessmen and Masosons in it for gain.

No im afraid the Law which is supposedly blind is our only hope. If we get the right judge then they are like kryptonite to people like Box. Fingers crossed.

Great to see support for the club on social media from fans of other clubs and the odd chairman. Last nights response from Denise Jeffery was shameful. I bet those at the top at not exactly 'welcoming' their opportunity in court. No response from my local councillor as of yet so i'm wondering if they are being Boxed in. The next council meeting is 22nd November at 2pm I wonder if Trinity will be on the agenda.

Quote ="wtid71"Great to see support for the club on social media from fans of other clubs and the odd chairman. Last nights response from Denise Jeffery was shameful. I bet those at the top at not exactly 'welcoming' their opportunity in court. No response from my local councillor as of yet so i'm wondering if they are being Boxed in. The next council meeting is 22nd November at 2pm I wonder if Trinity will be on the agenda.'" I got a reply from Councillor Janet Holmes which showed how interested she is. Quote I understand that an agreement has been reach. For further information could you please email djeffrey@wakefield.gov.uk (Denise Jeffrey) who has been dealing with this issue. Kind regards, Janet'" Wonder what agreement was reached yesterday afternoon that has not been shared publicly yet!!

Quote ="wtid71"Great to see support for the club on social media from fans of other clubs and the odd chairman. Last nights response from Denise Jeffery was shameful. I bet those at the top at not exactly 'welcoming' their opportunity in court. No response from my local councillor as of yet so i'm wondering if they are being Boxed in. The next council meeting is 22nd November at 2pm I wonder if Trinity will be on the agenda.'" I got a reply from Councillor Janet Holmes which showed how interested she is. Quote I understand that an agreement has been reach. For further information could you please email djeffrey@wakefield.gov.uk (Denise Jeffrey) who has been dealing with this issue. Kind regards, Janet'" Wonder what agreement was reached yesterday afternoon that has not been shared publicly yet!!

just another why of fobbing you off

Having seen how nervous Box appeared at the Council Meeting earlier this year when the matter was discussed,it will be interesting to see how he reacts when being cross examined by a QC.Many years ago I appeared as a defence witness in a civil case and the way the defence QC challenged the opposition witnesses with his detailed knowledge of the issue was impressive.These guys earn big money but they earn it by the work they do prior to the court appearance and will have read and researched every statement and agreement relating to the case.If Box stands up and claims that minutes of meetings were not kept and he can't remember who gave any "legal advice" he will be torn to shreds.

I too was in the public gallery at that meeting and yes in a court room he would be exposed. I think there is every possibility he would stand down rather than have to succumb to his fate in the courts.

Let's hope justice prevails in the end, and this corruption doesn't extend any further up the hierarchy. Wish I was there to see Box, Yorkcourt and their minions squirm - shame we can't get coverage of that on Sky too!

I was in the gallery that day and if box speaks in court as confidently as he did in the council chamber we're halfway there!

I agree that there needs to be full accountability if any wrongdoing has taken place.

However it would be naive to think the councillors and top council officers would be like deer in the headlights when it comes to a court date.

I'm sure they have been taking legal advice at every step and you can be fairly confident they'll be no mugs....

As I say, I would hope there is full accountability but I wouldn't be counting chicken's at this point. I'm sure the club and trust are proceeding very carefully, it's certainly not going to be an easy ride.

It will be very very interesting from a relatively neutral point of view

Like they took legal advice regarding Newcold.

They took legal advice but couldn't rember from whom, or when and if it was minuted. That advice?

Catnip for Barristers

Or Rohypnol for barristers?

Yes the advice that they claimed to have taken but could not produce when asked to do so under the FOI Act.

If they had taken good independent legal advice throughout this process. AND HAD ACTED ON IT I feel we would be much nearer to a stadium. Their past actions and decisions, along with recent press comments tells you how clueless they are.

Lmao

That is wakey council through and through
They are a complete shambles

It might be easy standing up in front of your colleagues in the Council chamber, but standing in front of a judge in the Law Courts is a totally different situation altogether.
Believe me I have been there on lots of occasions over the past 28 years (for the prosecution, I might add

), but even though you know you have done nothing wrong, it is still a traumatic experience.
Heaven help anyone who has done something wrong......

Luckily I've never had that experience and that's not something I'd wish to change, but I can certainly imagine it's pretty intense.

We all know deep down that some things that have occurred in this process are "unusual" shall we say..... However the labour council has been around a long long time, and I'm sure they've acted in such a way to cover their tracks or negotiate their way through loopholes etc etc.

As I say, it'd be very naive to just now assume that a QC is going to unravel an entire local government with 40 odd tears worth of experience in these matters.

I'm not saying it won't be done, I'm just fairly confident it won't be plain sailing.

The council have maneuvered their way through this entire saga in such a way nobody could've ever anticipated - I'm sure when NM got approved a few years ago nobody expected what has followed.

I certainly hope justice prevails and I'm confident it will, whether that's for the benefit of the club and community or not....

But leopards don't change their spots and I'd be very surprised if this legal battle will be quick and easy

I’ve been stood in court being drilled by barristers both as a witness and the prosecutor and like you say FIL, not a nice position. All I wanted to do was jump over the dock and rip his face off, very clever people.

Should the incident go to the High Court and the decision go Trinity's way, then a pleasant byproduct of the whole situation must surely mean that Box, his Wally head and that Jeffreys woman would surely have no alternative but to resign there posts, and the City of Wakefield could look forward to a new era. There again, that would be the honourable thing to do!!!!!!

Come on redcat you know better than that. Why do you think box is letting his lackies make all the statements? He will throw them and whoever else he can under a bus if it means he can cling on to power. After all he will just find another couple of folk willing to earn over 150k to do what he tells them to