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| Quote ="Towns88"3 1/2 years ago Liam Finn was considered surplus to requirements at a championship club. He continues to deliver match winning performances in SL. Not flashy. Just very smart, shrewd and top organiser. Motm for me tonight. Only phil clarkes weird love in with Johnstone prevented him getting that accolade.'"
As you're probably aware I was a bit of a lone voice on here when I said Finn was the best signing of last season. I've always been a fan and for one reason more than any other. When you are so lacking in speed, agility and size as Finn and you still manage to carve out a 15 year career then you know that player has to have heart and brains. What makes that especially good is that age does nor affect those two qualities in fact it enhances them. Because Finn's game is totally based around the muscle in his head he only improves as the team improves.
There is no doubt in my mind that when Finn is on we look a better team - as yet that doesn't necessarily equate to winning but we at least look more organised. Maybe he is now to old to build ateam around but he can certainly still be the foundations of one.
Long live King Liam I say
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| If Campbell had given a no try on the field I suspect the video ref would've concurred. Ad it happen had the Leigh player not tackled Jones-Bishop in the air he would landed a yard or so further forward and he would've been over the line anyway.
Leigh benefitted from incorrect calls too, the two on one steal on Johnstone, Hampshire traping the ball and a Leigh player coming from an offside position to claim the ball. Trinity have been on the end of rough calls and sometimes you get some back.
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| Agree there Vasty, he did have a good game, and think we really missed him last week.
Don't think the Hadley experiment worked, and some of his passing was poor, and having two pivots on the bench meant for increased work rate of the forwards.
Without sounding biased here, I think BJB's was definately a try, he was initially short, but was still moving, without the need of a second effort. He was also taken out in the air when he took the ball.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"very fair minded post and thanks. Yes I would agree that probably we edged the tight calls fro Mr Campbell but let me tell you he owes us quite a few! He's cost us at least 2 games I can bring to mind. Personally, I thought BJB was short but he was tackled in the air and would have had a yard more and definitely scored so I would have been arguing for a pen try if it hadn't been given...probably balanced the decision to about right perhaps. Still, it was a cracking match and Leigh are a very good side. Perhaps a lack of SL experience in one or 2 at the end there cost you the game but as they learn I see you having a very good season'"
Cheers Charlie.
A lot has been (correctly) said about our drop in intensity. I certainly don't think there was a fitness issue, because we have been going as strong in the final five minutes, as the first five. For my money, it was because Trinity upped their game, and we were on the back foot for the entire second half. It's very difficult to get any momentum going when the opposition is coming at you, in both attack and defence, all the time!
Looking forward to Trinity coming to ours, for another tight game.
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| Quote ="maurice"The try was short'"
Had your man not tackled BJB in the air the try would have probably been scored under the sticks. Food for thought.
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| Well that was a roller coaster - and you can only hope that the second half performance inspires the players to believe in themselves; nilling a side that have just put 24 points on you is quite a turnaround. And I don't buy the Leigh drop in intensity story - we stopped them from playing with our line speed, pressure in defence and aggression.
Standouts for us - Arona, Johnstone and Ashurst again, with a special mention for Hirst, who I thought did really well in his first SL outing; someone on the coaching staff really needs to find a way to get the team to play the way they did in the 2nd half for a full 80, which has yet to happen this season.
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| One of the thinks that pleased me on the comeback last night, we didn't look like we were playing desperate panic rugby, where we felt the need to score on every set.
The comeback seemed well calculated and measured
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| It was like a different 13 walked onto the pitch for the second half. Besides improved effort and enthusiasm to me the main difference was how we moved the ball because the first half was one drive mainly but the second half we opened up the game by throwing the ball out wide and the opportunities came. Leigh definitely turned up and they are a good side which who play entertaining rugby.
An excellent game to be at and thought 4500 for a Thursday night and also on sky was a good turnout.
Cracking result well done.
Lets hope for similar at Les Catalans
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| Great game of rugby league, really enjoyed it, like these close rollercoaster games better than going for a run for the old ticker. Seems to be a good spirit in the camp, didn't let the heads go down when behind but picked up in the second half. Went with the whole family and had a good night
Thought Michael Carter came across well on the radio yesterday morning and on Sky, a measured sensible approach, which is what is needed. I don't listen to headlines in the paper or sky, they live on sensationalism and report on any half story or indeed no story at all.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="bren2k"Well that was a roller coaster - and you can only hope that the second half performance inspires the players to believe in themselves; nilling a side that have just put 24 points on you is quite a turnaround.=#FF0000 And I don't buy the Leigh drop in intensity story - we stopped them from playing with our line speed, pressure in defence and aggression.
Standouts for us - Arona, Johnstone and Ashurst again, with a special mention for Hirst, who I thought did really well in his first SL outing; someone on the coaching staff really needs to find a way to get the team to play the way they did in the 2nd half for a full 80, which has yet to happen this season.'"
Agreed, see my post on previous page.
There's an old saying, (they are always the best ) that "you play as well as you are allowed to play." And that was us in the second half. Despite some strange calls from the ref, I thought the final scoreline accurately reflected the eighty minutes - unfortunately!
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| Quote ="Alan"Agreed, see my post on previous page.
There's an old saying, (they are always the best
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For sure - your lads blew us away in the 1st half, and we did the reverse in the 2nd; sometimes that's the way it goes.
I also agree about the ref - he wasn't great in general.
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| Omg fifita your a legend check out him giving schofield on twitter
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| Quote ="desmond decker"Omg fifita your a legend check out him giving schofield on twitter'"
Really made me smile. Could do with him goining Schoey on the radio on Monday night. Think Schoey could possibly have met his match.
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| I'm not sure what Terry Kelly thinks that image shows. He might as well have shown it two frames earlier to show he didn't ground the ball.
It finished over the line. Ref thought so. Video ref thought so.........it's a try.
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| The ball is actually grounded in the photo, eye test required love ?
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| Quote ="terrykelly"
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Even if it wasn't a try it should have been a penalty try because without the tackle in the air bjb would have definitely scored. So , as we missed the conversion we were robbed of 2 points.
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| Quote ="terrykelly"The ball is actually grounded in the photo, eye test required love ?'"
Let it go and move on...Widnes next isn't it?
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| Quote ="terrykelly"The ball is actually grounded in the photo, eye test required love ?'"
Haha he didn't say it wasn't grounded there love!!.what he was saying is the ball was still rolling forward with momentum so that picture is irrelevant
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| on further evidence, the ball did touch '4 blades' of white grass, so it was definitely a try.
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| Quote ="terrykelly"on further evidence, the ball did touch '4 blades' of white grass, so it was definitely a try.'"
We know
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| Quote ="terrykelly"The ball is actually grounded in the photo, eye test required love ?'"
Out of order! Its old love
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| I think there's still a bit of forward momentum after this frame, but being perfectly honest its not cast iron proved one way or the other, the ref said try, the vid ref couldn't disprove it so that's that, there is no other mechanism available to change it.
There are far more obvious no try's given as try's than that.
Nah, the game goes to sh1! when you give officials the opportunity to make bad calls.
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