There's a mock incredulity overload in this thread

bunch of bladdy dramarama queens

nobody's bagging TJ, they're voicing their observations, now lets stop wetting our knickers and smooth it out, s'like rag day on mumsnet

Kirmond outstanding - Finn poor, now you're taking the mick!

Your's is an opinion it would seem, mine is not apparently - this is very much a two tier forum these days isn't it.

Anyways I'll enjoy great win whilst we are still getting them, I'm sure a genuine reason for a misery fest will come along soon enough.

Do you ever post a worthwhile comment, why don't you stick to posting your trite nonsense on faceache or ter or wherever it is you came from.

On a positive note, at least there's been no Leigh fans on this week!

I don't know, I reckon they would still be more positive than some on here.

Remind me, we did go to France and thrash Catalans or am I missing something

Why are we not allowed to comment when we win.
It's not like anyone is saying he is a bad player or that the things he did well weren't good. He just made some uncharacteristic mistakes. It was very clear. Commented on by all the Sky team in a complimentary way.
No one wants him dropped. No one has said it stopped the enjoyment of the win.

If Fifita plays next week without his shorts should we not mention it as he normally does wear them and we like him?

Where did I say anything about your opinion? You had a dig at folk for theirs, no thanks the other way round.

Kirmo did some great work!

I'm happy - never said otherwise - but always room for improvement!

One thing the extended discussion about TJ has done is taken the gloss away from BJB.
His tries were all excellent and all needed scoring.
He is a strange runner as to me he doesn't look to be running fast but no one catches him and he really knows how to score them.
I wonder who works on those skills in our back room team. I know some teams specifically train for the one handed scores in the corner and TJ and BJB are so good at it that we have to be focusing on it......but none of the coaching look like it's their area of expertise. Good for them whoever it is.
Ironically Agar got a lot of plaudits from other coaches on this kind of skills training and is why Warrington wanted him.

Trb is correct,kirmo was top draw ,finn gave away 4 /5 penalties very poor

Surly mc must offer bjb a new contract,hes Worth every penny

I thought it was an outstanding performance by the lads, but kirmond was a big weakness those who say he played well are living in the past,johstone could have had 4 tries but the two he scored were top drawer ,never100% sure about jones bishop but the kid played well ,arundell another i didnt rate but again had a good game miller a kid i rate highley has got to be in the 17 and in hubey and ashurst weve got 2 top notch forwards

Yes he gave some ill timed penalties away but to say Finn was very poor is nonsense imo

With Ryan Hall a certainty for one wing spot who else could challenge Johnstone for the other? I can only think of Eden and BJB in similar try scoring form

Finn gave away 4 penalties on bounce in the second when Catalans got a roll on , watch it it's easy

Kirmond wasn't a weakness he had a decent game.

This and the previous stream of posts seems odd!

My comment at the time was 'silly' Finny... however in retrospect that run of errors came after he had been playing first receiver for the first half and then hooker for another half hour... he was clearly fatigued.

The sum of the errors probably resulted in one try... and were swamped by the good work, shape and positive attitude he gave the team...

Ps fwiw I think our best half partnership currently is Finn and Miller ... Williams has not settled well and is a shadow of his best. Either that or he is being directed to play a game plan which wastes his talent.

One thing the extended discussion about TJ has done is taken the gloss away from BJB.
His tries were all excellent and all needed scoring.
He is a strange runner as to me he doesn't look to be running fast but no one catches him and he really knows how to score them.
I wonder who works on those skills in our back room team. I know some teams specifically train for the one handed scores in the corner and TJ and BJB are so good at it that we have to be focusing on it......but none of the coaching look like it's their area of expertise. Good for them whoever it is.
Ironically Agar got a lot of plaudits from other coaches on this kind of skills training and is why Warrington wanted him.

Thing about TJ is if he'd have caught the ones he dropped it would arguably have been the best performance from a winger for many a year! He's got pace to burn and is a great finisher, we all know that...what he doesn't get credit for though is the brilliant work he does on first and second tackles bringing us from our own line...i'd have him up there as one of the best in the league at it....it always takes 2-3 men to take him down, he always makes good metres...he continually gets very good quick play the balls and because of all that wins countless numbers of penalties....id love to seeva stat on how many he's won us at crucial times to get us out of trouble! All those attributes rolled together make him potentially the best winger in the comp for me...keep it up Tom!

Also, on the Finn penalties...I can excuse those because we are a far better team with him in it as has already been proved....a couple of them were what I'd call smart penalties aswell, if there is such a thing...we were well in control of the game at that point anyway so not as if they were stupid pens which could have had a bearing on the result....I think he deserves the benefit of doubt as he's much smarter than that!

All in all a fabulous two points and performance...roll on Friday...hope the fans turn out in numbers!

Johnstone said at the awards dinner last season that Stu Dickens had been helping him with the dives to the corner! Terry Crook made a comment about getting help in try scoring from a prop!

Just got back and what a trip !

Great game (best performance of the season) and although the 2 wingers will take the plaudits, our pack were magnificent.
On top for the full 80 mins and out played and out muscled their French counterparts.

Yes, we gave some stupid penalties away, when there was no need to do so but, Trinity are growing as a team and 4 wins from the last 5 games is an excellent return.

Respect to the Trinity massive that made the Trip and roll on Friday

I have to say my favourite thing about Fifita is that he's extremely good at bending the rules. He wins us quite a few soft penalties which is something the best teams like Wigan and Leeds have always been good at.

I get a bit sick of Liam Finn getting slagged off. He's a cultured footballer with great distribution skills. It's horses for courses but I'm glad we have him and I think he has made a big positive difference to us since he joined us. I can't believe there is really any criticism of anyone after that performance. Do we expect 80 faultless minutes? Look, I have had a go at one or 2 over the years who have, in my view, let us down, but 18-38 at Catalans...I think its time to say bloody good effort one and all

EXACTLY

I came on expecting great joy at one of the best performances in ages to find such debates going on. And I get accused of being negative!!

Johnstone...I think 1 of those chances could be said to be his fault..if you call dropping 1 pass a fault. I call it human and just the way it goes. Jesus, he's electric. Nobody on the pitch could have scored the 2 tries he did. His sheer pace left them all standing. For goodness sakes I think a reality check is needed on criticism here