Personally I would prefer Dewsbury, particularly if the North stand could be utilised to expand their capacity

If playing in Leeds is a possibility could it be at Headingley? Leeds often play Fridays whereas Wakey often play Sundays, Carnegie are set to play more games away from Headingley and Darth is always on the lookout for extra cash here and there. Plus I believe Wakey have occasionally used Leeds training facilities in the past? Only a thought.

Dewsbury as our base and for our home games as it's just about in Wakefield & take a few of the big games ie Leeds/Wigan to Elland rd or Oakwell until the Community Stadium is built in Wakefield

How about a rotation? Couple of games at Fev, Dewsbury, Leeds, Hunslet, Scarborough



Yep.. dumbest idea yet.

It will be interesting to see the outcome . Scaby could work for one game. Local derby type game. Make a weekend of it. The prospect of playing at a number of locations could work.

Disagree.

Most fans are creatures of habit and we need the same ground, on the same day, with the same kick off time (not withstanding Sky's requirements)
and if we move out of Wakefield, I can only be short term.

Some of the venues could be ok, but Scarborough!

Remember, Fev have taken the stand, the ground has been levelled & it sounds like the site will become a Lidl.

I still think Barnsley would be worth a punt.

Dewsbury a lot nearer for me than Newmarket.
You feel as though you haven't really left Wakefield on the journey there.

What would happen if the Council decided to list B.V as an Asset of Community Value?

Surely if they did, nobody else but the club would be interested in renting it, therefore they could haggle over the price. It’s not like the land value is going down anytime soon.

Dewsbury if we drop down a division, Barnsley if we don't. If the club are to move out of the city and remain in SL it may as well be to a place where potential new support could offset the guaranteed loss of the existing fan base.

All an asset of community value does is effectively give the 'community' first dibs on coming up with the money for a sale doesn't it? And that only lasts for 6 months and the owner isn't obliged to sell to them anyway. Buys a bit of time but ultimately not that much use in reality.

While it might feel like that to you, it is outside Wakefield and Newmarket isn't!

The ASV was just about muddying the waters and if it gets approved, it just ultimately does exactly that, so it was worth doing but only buys time if you are critical of it as a process.

Turn this on it's head - who, other than WTW, would want to rent Belle Vue for a figure even say at 10% of the current rental value? Remember, it is a full repair and insurance lease, so it still costs a few grand a month to run, even if they let you have it for nothing! So ASV or no ASV, who is going to rent it other than WTW?

I’m sure nobody else would want to rent it, but if the club don’t take up the letting wouldn’t the BOI just sell up?

Scarborough currently play at Bridlington Town FC although plans were announced recently to move back home to a new stadium.

Surely Oakwell (capacity 23000) is far too big...

Fair point, but whom to and for what? Don't forget, planning condition 38 says you can't build houses on it until it is discharged, which means you, or someone else, need to build a new stadium at Newmarket. Getting that planning condition lifted is very hard and would take lots of time, money and effort... not impossible, just money and time. So, while that is happening the BOI have to start and pay money to keep ownership of an empty stadium asset! I reckon rates, security and insurance say £5k a month! How long will they need to pay it for? They were getting a tidy sum of £10k a month for doing sweet FA and now they are shelling out £5k a month... who let that happen the high-ups in the BOI are going to say! A reduced fair rent means they are still getting income from an asset, an empty stadium means it is costing them to keep it and are going to struggle to sell it unless they spend even more money sorting out the issues!

Oh, and the site is probably not worth anywhere near what you might expect, trust me on that one... there is much money to be spent getting that site development ready!

£2.5m pre-recession. Today, at roughly 30k per plot for 80 houses, I reckon 2m would be an appropriate value taking into consideration the run down nature of the area.

It would certainly be an attractive proposition to a high volume developer but as you say the cost in time and expense to discharge the condition could put most off. The lower the value of the land the more likely a developer would take a punt on it.

That of course is assuming there are no hidden skeletons (both figuratively and literally speaking) buried deep under the BV turf!

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I appreciate that this might be partly brinksmanship, but of course one potential outcome is that this is our last year at Belle Vue. It was a genuine enquiry about the middle 8's. Although it might not turn out to be the end of Belle Vue as a rugby stadium (and as you have alluded to, the decision behind the serving of six months notice is sound) if it is, two months will be too late for people who might find it difficult to get to Belle Vue on the last fixture but would make an extra effort for the "last game". Or even might want to spend longer there on the last day. So let's say that one of the scenarios is that we leave Belle Vue in six months time, does anyone know when the last game would be, knowing how the middle 8's work? Would hate to be turning up at the Rams stadium next year, for example, because the six months notice had expired and realising that the game against whoever had been the last one at Belle Vue and I'd just mooched out without a second glance.'" No dates as yet but this might help: www.rugbyleaguechampionships.co.uk/rlnewera

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I appreciate that this might be partly brinksmanship, but of course one potential outcome is that this is our last year at Belle Vue. It was a genuine enquiry about the middle 8's. Although it might not turn out to be the end of Belle Vue as a rugby stadium (and as you have alluded to, the decision behind the serving of six months notice is sound) if it is, two months will be too late for people who might find it difficult to get to Belle Vue on the last fixture but would make an extra effort for the "last game". Or even might want to spend longer there on the last day. So let's say that one of the scenarios is that we leave Belle Vue in six months time, does anyone know when the last game would be, knowing how the middle 8's work? Would hate to be turning up at the Rams stadium next year, for example, because the six months notice had expired and realising that the game against whoever had been the last one at Belle Vue and I'd just mooched out without a second glance.'" No dates as yet but this might help: www.rugbyleaguechampionships.co.uk/rlnewera

Maybe a developer could find a loophole.

Interesting thought... makes you wonder!

John Pearmans mystery dissapearance solved

A point of interest about condition 38 (though I am not suggesting a legal point) is that it meant that the club could not be forced out and find themselves groundless. A laudable condition. However now we have the prospect of the club voluntarily moving and NOT being groundless. Maybe some wiggle room for BoI etc?

That's my concern.

Would not think so. The condition is clear, Belle Vue cannot be developed until Newmarket is built. The fact that we may not be playing there does not change the fact that we have no home.

The BOI may try to get the condition removed as they have already done but we and Sport England would object again and hopefully the outcome would be the same. Also any application to get the condition removed would be costly.

Does serving notice to quit have any effect on this clause ?