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| Quote ="debaser"Scruton? Did he actually do ANYTHING at all in his second stint? He looked like a player who really did not want to be there.'" agree re his interest in the game but looking at highlights he could have meant Sammutt .
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| Quote ="debaser"Scruton? Did he actually do ANYTHING at all in his second stint? He looked like a player who really did not want to be there.'"
He's looked like that all season.
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| Quote ="debaser"Scruton? Did he actually do ANYTHING at all in his second stint? He looked like a player who really did not want to be there.'"
He certainly wasn't the Scruton from last year. He made a few decent drives but he didn't seem to have the fire in his belly I was expecting. Barring his neat little chip over, Sammut thankfully had one of his fairly average games... I expected him to get over the whitewash at least once today.
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| A real disappointment today. We had the chances to clearly win this. Poor/dropped passes particularly in the first half with Kirmond and Moore (in front of the sticks) spring to mind. Godinet unlucky not to get another interception.
Second half we got our tails up then a whole bunch of decisions went against us. For some I was too far away to be a good judge (great viewing position close to the action at this iconic Odsal). It felt as though similar looking incidents (ball coming loose in the tackle) were penalised against us and not penalised against Bradford.
I thought it a bit crazy for Moore to be sin binned and no one on their side. More lack of consistency with how the game is reffed game to game. It will be interesting to see the TV highlights as to who threw the first punch. Irony is in the Hull match both Riley and Crookes were binned when Crookes instigated the incident by kicking out.
On only one viewing I can't see how the ref called a shoulder charge motion for disallowing Mathers' try. Agar's comment that he saw nothing on the monitor to justify denying it adds to the discussion.
Overall we had the chances and didn't take them. Our defence was also poor.
However, I'm glad Sammut and Godinet are back at half back. They looked a lot more lively than Sykes and Seijka and I think Jarrod and Pita should stay half backs until the end of the season.
We can't win games if we don't create chances. Although working on defence is a must.
London is a must win game now, lets put this situation to bed and take away any threat of relegation.
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| Scruton was anonymous today. A couple of threads on here have suggested that he's been like that for most of his time at WTW. Scrutes has always been a form player in my opinion. During the Mick Potter reign at Odsal he had a very poor couple of years. Last season he was streets ahead of anyone else in our squad and appeared to be returning to form. Today suggests otherwise. I hope he finds his feet again.
Perhaps his heart still remains at Bradford?
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| I just can't my head around how we were not up for this match. If we had been focused on this match all week we would have won instead we had the it's just another match mentality and lost.
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| Which player was RFA refering to when he said you cant get away with throwing yourself on the floor at this level (left hand edge).but never mind Lynne could be back for the London Game.Also its not just the first team being poorly coached the 19s are just as bad .Dickens is throwing away some talented players
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| Quote ="dddooommm"Scruton was anonymous today. A couple of threads on here have suggested that he's been like that for most of his time at WTW. Scrutes has always been a form player in my opinion. During the Mick Potter reign at Odsal he had a very poor couple of years. Last season he was streets ahead of anyone else in our squad and appeared to be returning to form. Today suggests otherwise. I hope he finds his feet again.
Perhaps his heart still remains at Bradford?'"
Watch it or scrut rot will get his wife to diss you on twitter. The other traitor was gash too. One good chip over the top but he really is the most over rated player around.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Watch it or scrut rot will get his wife to diss you on twitter. The other traitor was gash too. One good chip over the top but he really is the most over rated player around.'"
Been our player of the season for me. Aside Matt Ryan probably. Been the only two who look like they can do something at times.
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| How did Owen and Happy play?
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| Richard Owen ought to buy a season ticket for Castleford and spend his Sundays watching them from the sidelines instead of watching Wakefield from the touchline.
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| Richard Moore and Matty Ryan can hold their heads up; that's about your lot.
The rest were garbage, with special mentions for Scruton and Owen, neither of whom I would have paid in washers for today's efforts; the sight of Owen leaning nonchalantly on the corner flag as if he was waiting for a bus, summed it up for me.
Time for MC to do a Bernard Guasch; the current coaching regime has run its course.
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| Did Gilmour play? It says on bbc report at bottom he wasn't used.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Richard Moore and Matty Ryan can hold their heads up; that's about your lot.
The rest were garbage, with special mentions for Scruton and Owen, neither of whom I would have paid in washers for today's efforts; the sight of Owen leaning nonchalantly on the corner flag as if he was waiting for a bus, summed it up for me.
Time for MC to do a Bernard Guasch; the current coaching regime has run its course.'"
To be fair I thought Walshaw went well, along with Mathers but no one other than the 4 mentioned can really hold their head up. Sammut was doing his best behind a beaten pack I suppose.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Sammut was doing his best behind a beaten pack I suppose.'"
He's a rocks and diamonds kinda player - today was mostly rocks.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Richard Moore and Matty Ryan can hold their heads up; that's about your lot.
The rest were garbage, with special mentions for Scruton and Owen, neither of whom I would have paid in washers for today's efforts; the sight of Owen leaning nonchalantly on the corner flag as if he was waiting for a bus, summed it up for me.
Time for MC to do a Bernard Guasch; the current coaching regime has run its course.'"
Harsh on Godinet - he put himself all-over the place and was first in the chase on most occasions.
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| I thought Moore, Godinet and Anderson played well.
Ryan didn't have opportunity but put effort in.
Sammut had some flashes.
Kirmond tried but some poor execution today.
Walshaw came looking for the ball went it was obvious he wasn't going to get a pass.
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| Why did we keep attacking the right side all the time??
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| I take it Kirmond was playing with an injury? I don't know whether we ran at him on purpose, or he put his hand up to make the tackles, but he did the most work out of all your guys, but was slower & slower getting up after each impact.
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| Quote ="Highlander"I take it Kirmond was playing with an injury? I don't know whether we ran at him on purpose, or he put hiys hand up to make the tackles, but he did the most work out of all your guys, but was slower & slower getting up after each impact.'"
He's been injured all season, and most of last too. I admire his attitude but he's going to do serious damage to his body all for a coach and team mates who really are not worth it. Given some players are out due to a sore toe I don't think it's unreasonable for Kirmond to have an extended break.
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| Obviously many things are not going well to put it mildly, but I do wish people would not 'lash out ' unreasonably.
I injured my big toe gardening and it took over two months to get right.
I could hardly walk for three weeks let alone run.
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| Quote ="Jack the Beagle"Obviously many things are not going well to put it mildly, but I do wish people would not 'lash out ' unreasonably.
I injured my big toe gardening and it took over two months to get right.
I could hardly walk for three weeks let alone run.'"
It's an observation. It's been suggested Kirmond has been having an epidural so he can play. I've no idea whether this is still the case but it highlights the difference in characters between the two. Not that I'm complaining about Lyne being out of the side mind.
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Sums it up really, could have made a difference for us and brought the match to a winnable end. I'm also still trying to figure out a lot of the 2nd half decisions. Whenever the ball came out of a tackle when we had possession it was a scrum. If it was when they had possession it was a penalty to them. Seems greater than the law of averages how so many were ruled in Bradford's favour.
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Sums it up really, could have made a difference for us and brought the match to a winnable end. I'm also still trying to figure out a lot of the 2nd half decisions. Whenever the ball came out of a tackle when we had possession it was a scrum. If it was when they had possession it was a penalty to them. Seems greater than the law of averages how so many were ruled in Bradford's favour.
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| Quote ="wildshot"Sums it up really, could have made a difference for us and brought the match to a winnable end. I'm also still trying to figure out a lot of the 2nd half decisions. Whenever the ball came out of a tackle when we had possession it was a scrum. If it was when they had possession it was a penalty to them. Seems greater than the law of averages how so many were ruled in Bradford's favour.'"
You missed out the knock on at the PTB in the set leading up to your sides first score...
And Richard Moore escaping a red card despite throwing punches at our winger and subsequently receiving a grade B charge. A I don't think it was all one sided, you just weren't good enough on the day.
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