I didn't save that one unfortunately.

The reason they have taken that video down is because of the feedback on here. I am now well beyond doubt that this forum is being monitored and that material posted is highly likely to feature in their material going forward.

Paranoid - maybe. Cautious - definitely!

Nice to see Mr. Box adding his two penneth lol

And Richard Wright on the petition forms!

Having looked on the WCCG web site I would have to agree with TRB that these people are probably monitoring what is being said on RL Fans, also I think you all need to be really careful at this point as to what you are posting on here as a few cut and pastes could make for some great propaganda on there web site of even the Wakefield express where it seems to me that they already have some support. As for the fictitious posts that have been put on the WCCG site (I am guessing by a poster from this site) I really don’t think this is doing your cause any good as once again they could be able to use this to there advantage. My advice would be stay out of the argument and wait to see what happens when planning is applied for because my guess is at this point it will be granted.

I would just like to make clear an issue which has been mentioned elsewhere, namely that posters will need to be cautious over the posts which they make as we believe there is a strong possibility that this forum is being monitored by people who would rather this development didn't happen. As such, can I please urge caution in the comments made - i.e. think before you type!



Thank you!

I am 3 years into a dispute with a local authority who are having their strings pulled by conservationists who employ arguements ticking many environmental boxes. My adversaries are extremely politically astute and skilled campaigners (I can't help having a grudging respect for them). I am pretty sure that the conservation / environmentalist lobby train activists in political campaigning and that such taining involves creating controvertial debate that is attractive to the local rag.

I have learned that ignoring the goading of your advesaries is the best strategy. They are entitled to their view and their political campaigning. The best startegy to stay focused on the strengths of your position and continue to sing the merits of your project.

I find myself having considerable sympathy with Tigermans views. Beating these people in a debate is not a pre requisite of having a new community stadium built for the benefit of the people of Wakefield Met.

That's good info. I would agree, as others have stated, that it's best to just stick to the reasons we have in support of the proposals. Those who come on here engaging in debate have nothing to lose from doing so, but potentially quite a lot to gain.

I do still feel that the campaign to get our message heard via the media - mainly through the WE - is essential as public opinion will count when the politicians get involved.

without a doubt

Good thing there are no pet graves at the Newmarket site.

I cant see what people typing on here has to do with the proposed stadium. Its just fans expressing there opinion and it shouldnt have anything to do with the proposals. If i say kill all frogs and insects is there a chance the people who oppose the stadium will use this against us

You would be surprised what people will use for propaganda, hence my comment about the pet graves.

just had another look on the WCCG site and i see they have removed the new comments, but wrightys name is still on the petition so that one must be genuine

Well we can turn it round for our benefit too. So the club can use this

I live near the proposed plans for the new wakefield ground and i think its an excellent idea and i would be most disappointed if it didnt go ahead. Im fed up of all this wildlife anyway

Simples

just had another look on wccg site, i am now certain these people are monitoring your page on here, not only as i said earlier have they removed the new comments and the video but now one of the people on the petition has removed has his name from it.

For the record - the guy who posted the video was a Paul Williams. This is no secret as his name came up on the video at the end.



Hello Paul!

They tried to with the bats at Thornes Park.

Ok if there's any bats they can live

you have every right to feel paranoid as yes it will be monitored at least you have control of this website but there's is already starting to look foolish even with the replies, if any one replies with a case to answer it needs duplicating on here if answered as they miht not put the same reply on or even doctor it to suit

and how do you prove its from a Wakefield Trinity Wildcat supporter

I see all posts have been removed

Just as you are making issue of the industrial elements as you believe job creation is a positive spin, when really all your bothered about is the stadium, yet you know you cant have one without the other.

I have said before that the biggest hurdle you have to overcome is from opposition from other areas who will challenge your developers right to use greenbelt, when everybody else has to tow the line and find suitable sites for development. At the end of the day the developers see the "community" stadium as a way of sweetening the planning process. If the developers were confident of getting planning permission they would not give a flying fig about the Wildcats.

So TRB is correct in that Stanley man is not worth appeasing, as he will be small fish compared to the real opposition to this development. ( Leeds Met , Other businesses, landlords ).

I have a duty to the group I serve to support the stadium, but I also have a personal opinion and I am of the opinion that the development as a whole is a valid proposal for this site as there are more benefits overall than the one we are campaigning for. You are correct that I would take little active interest in it were it not for the stadium, but the reality is that there is a stadium riding on this - and as such it has got my attention.

For the record, I have not campaigned for or against any of the developemts around me - at Paragon or at J41..

Simple question Rugbyball.

Do you support the proposals?

I notice that one of the signatures on the petition has been put down as "Richard Wright of Castleford"!!!

6 names signed one of them obviously fake. 15000+ for the development surely its a no contest

Actually I would support any proposal that benefits any rugby league team, as I love the game. I guess you are cynical to my intentions due to the cautious nature of my posts which is fair enough. I trying to make the point that if people like TRB and swag want to influence the planning process then it is my belief that more subtle methods are required as at the moment everything comes across as being selfish, focusing on things such as job creation etc, when openly admitting you have never campaigned for this in any other circumstances just looks shallow.

My biggest problem with this development lies with the developer using the wildcats as the PR front for a speculative planning app on greenbelt land and the club just going along with it as they have no other viable option.

I can fully understand why fans want to see all the positives and believe the hype, as I said earlier I would love to see a state or the art Rugby facility in Wakefield, I just feel more caution should be applied in how we back it.

To sum up I guess what Im saying is the more people shout look over here, the more people will look!