They do have an excellent coach, proven at every club he's been at and more brass than we have.
Having said that, they have also been relegated (twice) in the SL era.

They're going ok this year, at 6th, what it would be like to be so high.

They've not always had good coaches in the SL era, they've had Chester and Webster.



They have been relegated only the once, the year in which Chester started with them as coach. Didn't that team put something like 50 on us at our ground

They do have a good backer and I think he's a fan of the club and local too which I think helps. Not sure on the roots of Carter and Minards

I`m sure we beat that team and Chester was sacked directly after the game?

How are Huddersfield bracketed with the lower half teams?! Because they currently occupy a slot there, but yet they are not short of cash are they?! Like I've said a million times before, having money guarantees nothing, it's only useful if used correctly, Man Utd have spent over 900 million since Fergie left, and haven't won the league unlike Liverpool & City who have spent far less. Go to Warrington and explain to their fans why they haven't been crowned league champions since 1955!!!! That's further back than ourselves?! You have hit the nail on the head, when you say we don't appear to be getting the best out of what we have, so why do you think most fans are p****d off when it appears the coach is to be retained? Obviously it's an opinion to a point, as to how good our squad is, and when quoting how many games we should be winning etc, is also not a scientific fact, but I think we are entitled to better performances and more wins should have been attained than we currently have.

My memory must be getting worse, I thought they'd been relegated twice

Whilst Hudgell is a good backer for KR, he doesn`t bankroll them because he can`t, he probably has a similar level of wealth to Carter, it probably is worth noting though KR average around 8K crowds so are able to spend up to the cap based on income generated. Chester had the same backing as Smith had, difference is Smith is smart with his recruitment, Chester blew all his money on Campese who was a massive risk and Kelly who has a known history of showing up when he wants to, went into the season with a paper thin squad - Then people had the audacity to suggest Chester was extremely unlucky because of the levels of injuries, no he got his recruitment all wrong as he seems to have done a lot of the time over his time with us.

You seem well informed regarding Hull KR, do you have relatives that are fans of the club by any chance?

Don't know why you're getting so defensive about Rovers? The thread is merely showing that even Rovers, who carry far more pluses than many other teams in Super League, are currently on a knife edge. They look like ending the season above us for the 1st time in a quite a while. Good on them.

Chester leaving them after a couple of games but still being blamed for relegation 20 odd games later is a very desperate play there.



The big loss v Rovers later that season was a master class from Kelly and Campese. That's all.

You're right
Having lots of cash guarantees nothing but, you'd rather have plenty of brass than none at all ?
It's no coincidence that those clubs with most to spend, generally fare better than those with little.
Having watched Trinity since the late 80's, it's generally been thin and thinner, punctuated with the occasional foray into the play offs and with some financial disasters thrown in.
I dont know if we are in a position to throw some money around, although I suspect not and without investing in some better quality players and having better luck with injuries (not having Johnstone is hurting us like hell), we will struggle to achieve much better than 8-11th spot and we've been lucky that, London, Toronto and now Leigh have been part of SL for the last 3 seasons.
I do agree about our coach and it seems crazy that after just a couple of wins, we were quick to hand out a new contract.
Somebody obviously thinks he is doing a better job than most of the fans ?
Selling S/T's for next season is going to be one hell of a hard sell.
With a poor finish in the table and games getting postponed (probably cancelled) and with the prospect of the "usual" 9th, 10th, 11th place finish, it's going to be harder than this season.
We could certainly do with some good news and a couple of "W's"

Hudgell is not the backer they have had a new one all season

Wasn't Canpese old and came with a long record of been injured when he joined HKR .So that plan did not work for Mr Chester .I now see why we have got the, if it's not working do not fix it attitude from our coaches

Dodgey knees if I remember.

Campese was outstanding when on the pitch but suffered with his knees a lot. Wiki says he played 26 games in 2015 & 16.
Kelly was outstanding when he wasn't in the pub.

Was CC the coach when he signed or was it Sandercock?

Chester

Of course generally money helps, I can't see how you could be a serious title contender without having money in simple terms, but as we all know it's never that straightforward. It's about a realistic target of wins for each club given the quality of the 25 or so players he has at his disposal. It also doesn't do much for confidence when the chairman is asked what areas need strengthening next year, and he says a second rower?! Surely we need an out and out prop for starters, and a hooker. That's another thing though, if next year we amazingly did have some extra cash made available, can we trust Chester to make the right kind of signings?! Too many players under him seem to go backwards at a rate of knots, Tanginoa & Battye are nowhere near as good as last year so far. On a positive note, we do seem to have some real exciting prospects coming through, probably the best crop at a certain age we've ever had, and hopefully they can become at least decent standard SL players in the next 2 to 5 years. I've just lost a lot of confidence in Chester being the man to guide them though, although Aydin certainly seems to be going in the right direction right now, which is good to see. Like you say, trying to keep fans is gonna be hard, never mind trying to attract new ones!

No, definitely not.



All I was defending was the initial comment, and yes Chester was sacked, replaced by Webster, who has also coached us, but was unsackable when with us.

I think I'm being confused here, with another poster on here, though he rarely seems to post on here these days. I do know though, he's been a bit down recently, and not himself, though his father has recently passed away. I saw him last, at the Hull KR game, ironically. I knew his Dad, and we were talking about him, as he used to be a regular too at the games.

Whether it was that or not I'm not sure, but just seemed a bit distant, and didn't seem right, though he was like that when I bumped into him in The Kirklands, last year. He used to be quite chatty, but was very distant, and didn't seem enthusiastic at all, in anything me and his Dad spoke about. Quite concerning when I think about it, with mental health being spoke about so publicly these days

Sorry mate you've completely lost me there? My Dad died many moons ago and my Mum too, before you bring her into it.

I think he is referring to a previous post by someone else which seemed to imply he is Eastern Wildcat.

I think we've missed understood each other.

With the defensive to Hull KR, I thought I was being mixed up with another poster on here, Eastern Wildcat, as they're his other team. I derailed a bit by saying that he's hardly on here these days, but I think he's a little low at the moment, with his Dad's passing. Though he's seems to have been like it for longer.

Apologies if it touched a nerve, mate

I was, and I csm assure you we're not.

I know him and his late father. But knew his father better.

No nerve mate, just misunderstanding.

Do you keep tabs on who supports who or do you know the fella? I can hardly keep up with who supports Wakefield, never mind remembering who their second teams are.

Generally speaking, no.

I do know him yes, but I knew his Dad more. His Dad used to coach schools rugby league, he coached both of us, but I'm a few years older. They're a good family, and he's a good lad. He does watch both Wakefield and Hull KR, but, he's a rugby league fan through and through, and has often gone to watch other clubs if Wakefield weren't playing, just to support the game. He is Wakefield though, through and through.

He was out with his Dad, for a couple, and the three of us were talking about the state of Wakefield Trinity, and the game as a whole, amongst other things, but seemed a bit distracted.

Correct mate, I believe he now backs a much smaller outfit, Bridlington Town FC