I was peed off and gutted last night and probably got no more than two hours sleep not being able to let go. We start again today building up for being on the terraces supporting whatever 17 turn out against Cas.

Crazy

not all doom and gloom guys - with the money we have and the players we can attract a couple of results like this have to be expected during the year ( I fear this week is going to be another one)
we are still at moment on track for top 8 (just) - we have beat the bottom 4 teams - if we do that again in the second round we will finish on 18 points - I think that will be enough this year. Again with us a top 8 finish is really all we can ask for.

so, so far still on track - everyone calm down,

its a trap

gotta be..

To be fair the socks were a disgrace.

Correct mate, some were saying it was only Salford when we beat them but I said at the time they are a good side and will cause a few upsets this season. No disgrace especially at there place.

Actually, if we only beat the sides currently below us, we'll be on 22 points, because we still play widnes & Huddersfield twice. Nothing guaranteed, but not as bleak as you're making out.

A bit of an over reaction from some I think. Sad that Finn and Grix are being targeted for this performance after their sterling service so far. It happens, Jake Webster has been a rock for us for the last 2 years but last night he was shocking. Hopefully Powell will keep faith with him as CC should do with Finn and Grix.

Hello old mate, long time no hear but a typical spot on analysis from you. hope you're well.

I seriously think every Cas fan will pray Grix stays at the back for next weeks game. Finn? I'm not sure how they'd go.

It's not like Max was so great last time he played against Cas. Whoever plays fullback against Cas is going to have a torrid time.
We need to find a way of stopping them being under pressure rather than stressing about which is least likely to stuff up.

The big issue apart from errors against Salford, was the line speed of the 2 sides.
Salford were far quicker of the mark and maintained this for the full 80, whereas, by comparison, we were static.
Castleford play a very similar style to this and if we can, we have to match them.

They come out really keen, especially in the first half and again, we need to meet fire with fire.

I know Big Dave was said to be 2 weeks away but, we could certainly do with his presence in the middle.

Defensively Salford were pretty good, apart from giving them a tackle 1 on the 50 a few times, that first half was good enough for at least a couple of scores tbh, Salford turned the ball over a few times and gave us plenty of possession and position, but they kept us out, that set the tone.
2nd half was all about Salford momentum, the 50/50's were theirs, their line speed was on the money and the game was gone pretty early.
Didn't really see anyone outstandingly dire, the team just looked flat collectively, there was effort but it wasn't focused.
Don't think Grix was any worse than anybody else.
Anyway, its gone, no point in dwelling on it, preparation for next week is the new target.

Hello mate!

All is well with myself ta.

Looking at the table so far and the teams in the bottom four are really struggling. I can't see any of them turning it around to challenge that eight spot. I think the eighth spot will be a fight between us and yourselves. You're still a good team, you have consistency problems like we do. We are very short on squad numbers so a long injury list could be disastrous for us.

Time will tell.

All the best for the rest of the season.

18 points won't be enough for top 8, it'll be 22 points to secure top 8. We are not quite on track to achieve that as we are a few percent below that currently. What it means is that we need to win at least 50% of the remaining games, anything less than that and we're in the middle 8s fighting it out with the likes of Toronto and Featherstone for our spot in SL next year

I don't see that as a big issue.
We have played some tough games already and winning 50% was always the target.

To get to your estimate of 22 points, we need to win 6 games.
We play the teams below us 6 times before the end of the regular season
Hull KR, Catalan and Widnes at home; Widnes and Giants away with Giants also at Newcastle
We should be looking to win all those.

We play 3 additional games at home against Wigan, Warrington and Hull each of which we have done at home before.
Anything we get out of those pushes us further into the 8.

Cas away, Sts away and Leeds away we have nothing to lose.

No need to panic at all, just need to learn lessons from this game going forward...

Not difficult to see where we went wrong, it was team selection...the Saints game, physically and mentally took a lot out of us and we didnt use our swuad depth to freshen things up...

You only need to look at the stats to see the difference Salfords ‘fresh’ players made...4 who didnt play at Huddersfield...

Griffin 18 carries 157 metres
McCarthy 16 carries 109 metres
Burgess 14 carries 113 metres
Murray 14 carries 96 metres

Kopcjak and Big Ben...arguably stronger ball carriers and metre makers than those 4 made 87 metres off 11 carries and 76 metres off 10 carries...

Put this defeat behind us and get back on track Friday and show we are a quality side!

We are looking to extend the contract of Finn for another year.

we should of moved grix on when we cost us a semi spot last year!!! yes I am still on that game against st helens! that was a old man play !

our one and only chance in the next 10 years to make a final.

Good, can we do it now so he can go and have his operation on his finger? Then he can be back for the 8s.

In the interviews I've read with him he indicated that he wanted to play on and secure a new contract rather than have the operation. Let's give him the contract now, put his mind at ease, have the op and play with half backs who don't have injuries.

Finn is a player past is best this is why the team looks slow when he and Grix is playing. Great brain put him on the coaching staff and keep them both of the field

So long as he doesn't coach the kick offs and down town last tackle kicks.

As everyone knows I wasn't here but I've watched the highlights back, should the try where BJB was knocked over have stood?

I thought it was ok tbh. Think BJB made a hash of positioning himself for that one. Either way as can be seen by the highlights it was our pivots and outside backs that all had stinkers. A few of the forwards weren’t much better giving penalties away and throwing the ball into touch etc.

Spot on again mate, I can only see the bottom 4 being cast further adrift. Salford have once again made the league position pundits look stupid (me included) Probably because Koukash had gone and with o'brien being sold it looked grim. I just wish somehow you could increase your crowds because you are punching way above your weight at the moment. Top 8 and survival this year wold be great for you and take heart from the fact that us Cas fans were hoping for the same 4 years ago.