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| Quote ="pyeman"Just out of interest would anyway wakefield plans feel differantly if they were gaurenteed that it would only be a year in glasshougton while newmarket was finished?'"
The only way I can see GH happening is if Newmarket gets the chop. I believe you need the funding eramarked for Newmarket plus some more. Also if NM was only a year behind then Barnsley would still be the better option for us IMHO.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"The only way I can see GH happening is if Newmarket gets the chop. I believe you need the funding eramarked for Newmarket plus some more. Also if NM was only a year behind then Barnsley would still be the better option for us IMHO.'"
Words is the jungle sale will go through shortly, and we've had funding for a part build for a while, so it looks like GH will be built either way.
None of us know how long newmarket will take but with no progress possible till sept and alot of stages to get through, plus the delays that happen with all major building projects, it seems to me that newmarket is about 18 months off yet. Not claiming to be in the know, just basing that on what i have read on here from wakey fans.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Just out of interest would anyway wakefield plans feel differantly if they were gaurenteed that it would only be a year in glasshougton while newmarket was finished?'"
Wouldn't bother me if work had started on Newmarket. Saints are playing at Widnes next year, after all, and so there would be a precedent. On the other hand, if work had started on Newmarket, why not go somewhere else completely for a year? Elland Road? Oakwell?
The fear is that we won't be able to rely on ifs and possibilities.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Words is the jungle sale will go through shortly, and we've had funding for a part build for a while, so it looks like GH will be built either way.
None of us know how long newmarket will take but with no progress possible till sept and alot of stages to get through, plus the delays that happen with all major building projects, it seems to me that newmarket is about 18 months off yet. Not claiming to be in the know, just basing that on what i have read on here from wakey fans.'"
So if the funding is all going to be there, why are the council so twitchy about Newmarket? If one is a fait accompli, get on with the other.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"So if the funding is all going to be there, why are the council so twitchy about Newmarket? If one is a fait accompli, get on with the other.'"
We cant know why the council are so twitchy, maybe they dont think newmarket will be ready in time?
As for the funding apparently a chinese company have now bought the hicksons site and are removing the chemical licence which is the only thing that has been stopping the sale of WR. Heard a whisper the other week and took it with a pinch of salt but now hearing the same thing on here from cas and wakey fans.
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| You have a short memory, many years ago RW and many of your fans were cock sure you could build your own stadium, people were even saying Wakey can F off we don't need them.
We are being asked to share with you for a reason can you work out what it is.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"You have a short memory, many years ago RW and many of your fans were cock sure you could build your own stadium, people were even saying Wakey can F off we don't need them.
We are being asked to share with you for a reason can you work out what it is.'"
To save £20m?
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| Quote ="jack in the box"You have a short memory, many years ago RW and many of your fans were cock sure you could build your own stadium, people were even saying Wakey can F off we don't need them.
We are being asked to share with you for a reason can you work out what it is.'"
I still believe cas can build the stadium without wakefield.
Some cas fans may have said wakey can foxtrot oscar, as some wakey fans will have said about cas, doesnt mean those people represent there club though does it.
Some wakey fans were cocksure about thornes park too, doesnt make a differance to the present though does it?
We have been asked to share, but no one, for all people may claim, knows what the councils exact reasons are, it could be that the council saw that NM couldnt be finished in time and tried to force wakeys hand.
Whatever happens i hope that wakey can sort something out and stay in super league.
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| Quote ="pyeman"
We have been asked to share, but no one, for all people may claim, knows what the councils exact reasons are, it could be that the council saw that NM couldnt be finished in time and tried to force wakeys hand.'"
From what I have heard / read it seems that planning permission for NM could have been submitted once outline permission was granted and finished for 2012 (government calling in not taken into account). Since it sounds like its the council that has moved the outline planning hearing back I dobut its for that reason.
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| Quote ="ETC"From what I have heard / read it seems that planning permission for NM could have been submitted once outline permission was granted and finished for 2012 (government calling in not taken into account). Since it sounds like its the council that has moved the outline planning hearing back I dobut its for that reason.'" I would read the statutory statements that are [url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=true&SDescription=10/00225/OUTListed Here[/url, this is why there will have been delays
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| All trinity fans can do is hope that some way the Newmarket Stadium can get done,hopefully with WMDC backing but if not without them.But all we can do is guess what will happen until there is more information either from Trinity or the Council,until then everyone is going to be going round in circles.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"All trinity fans can do is hope that some way the Newmarket Stadium can get done,hopefully with WMDC backing but if not without them.But all we can do is guess what will happen until there is more information either from Trinity or the Council,[uuntil then everyone is going to be going round in circles[/u.'"
Most sensible thing i've read on this board for weeks, we are just mushrooms.
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| Quote ="pyeman"
As for the funding apparently a chinese company have now bought the hicksons site and are removing the chemical licence which is the only thing that has been stopping the sale of WR. Heard a whisper the other week and took it with a pinch of salt but now hearing the same thing on here from cas and wakey fans.'"
Chinese whispers eh? Reliable as ever.
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| The overwhelming view of both polls is that we go to Newmarket.
I know this is not a scientific study carried out by p07034096eople with clipboards but it's still a sizeable majority.
I'll say it again, if we can(and the people at York Court, comm trust etc are all still backing it) then we should push on with Newmarket, we should suggest that if the council can't back both they should back neither, or split what money there is!
I firmly believe that glasshoughton cannot go ahead/as they hope, without us being involved and that is the view of the councillors interested.
I said in a post earlier on that the council would hide behind economic excuses long before this latest setback and they have, what we must do is continue to push on and highlight where ever there are leanings to one club or the other.
What we also need and I'm getting fed up of repeating this, is a strong statement of intent from our people, otherwise it looks like we're dead in the water at a time when a bit of front is needed.
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| They (Community Trust, WTRLFC & SWAG) have already have made a strong statement of intent on the day all this flared up.
Unlike Richard Wright who has done a complete 'U Turn' from his previous stance when invited to join in with the Community Stadium ... and now thinks sharing is a good idea.
What does that tell you?
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"They (Community Trust, WTRLFC & SWAG) have already have made a strong statement of intent on the day all this flared up.
Unlike Richard Wright who has done a complete 'U Turn' from his previous stance when invited to join in with the Community Stadium ... and now thinks sharing is a good idea.
What does that tell you?'"
RW has always welcomed Wakefield coming to GH. Just not Cas to Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Fully"RW has always welcomed Wakefield coming to GH. Just not Cas to Wakefield.'"
Because one would be a ground share and the other one wouldn't??
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"They (Community Trust, WTRLFC & SWAG) have already have made a strong statement of intent on the day all this flared up.
Unlike Richard Wright who has done a complete 'U Turn' from his previous stance when invited to join in with the Community Stadium ... and now thinks sharing is a good idea.
What does that tell you?'"
Richard Wright has welcomed the inquiry, but its findings are not binding and looks to me like a fact finding mission just to see if the council can save cash and drop their involvment in either scheme.
Glasshoughton will be built without Wakey or the council , as will Newmarket, but they are hoping for such an uproar to the sharing crap that they can withdraw any funding/help and blame someone else .
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| Just remind me again where the money for Glasshoughton is coming from ... and why full planning permission has not been sought so that the work on the stadium can get started.
Our full plans are ready and waiting to go as soon as outline permission is granted.
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"Just remind me again where the money for Glasshoughton is coming from ... and why full planning permission has not been sought so that the work on the stadium can get started.
Our full plans are ready and waiting to go as soon as outline permission is granted.'"
and when will the outline be granted ???? is it after the public enquiry ???
Leeds city council will do all in their power to shaft Wakey as will the tree huggers, you will get Newmarket but will it be too late to save trinity ?
ditto for Cas, well the too late bit
ed off with it all now, you get yours and we'll get ours and no sharing whatsoever. good luck
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| If the Newmarket site was a viable option then no. But it is not, there are far too many obstacles to overcome. We need to stop kidding ourselves on. It won't happen certainly not in the forseeable future.
Therefore I would be prepared to go to Glasshoughton, otherwise we could be out. It is in a prime position has access roads all over the place and is easily accessible.
The only other option is to go to Barnsley until a day or date where we could get our own ground.
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"and when will the outline be granted ???? is it after the public enquiry ???
Leeds city council will do all in their power to shaft Wakey as will the tree huggers, you will get Newmarket but will it be too late to save trinity ?
ditto for Cas, well the too late bit
vexed off with it all now, you get yours and we'll get ours and no sharing whatsoever. good luck'"
That hasn't answered the straightforward question I asked though has it?
Going off on one about what you hope will happen to Newmarket seems to suggest you don't have the answers.
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"Just remind me again where the money for Glasshoughton is coming from ... and why full planning permission has not been sought so that the work on the stadium can get started.
Our full plans are ready and waiting to go as soon as outline permission is granted.'"
To be honest, the only people that know where the money is coming from are those involved.
However, full planning permission hasn't been sought due to the fact of a) funding and b) because we haven't got full plans drawn up, of which, are being done now and should be available within a few weeks.
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"That hasn't answered the straightforward question I asked though has it?
Going off on one about what you hope will happen to Newmarket seems to suggest you don't have the answers.'"
Going off on one ??????
jeeeze have a word with yourself, I only asked you questions knowing that you have no answers , just like the questions you asked about Glasshoughton.
the truth girl is that me and you and everyone else that cares about our clubs and the game in general are being s hit on from a great height and until we are told what is happening we are expected to keep arguing the virtues of our ground as opposed to yours.
I think the council will just pull the plug on any financial help for either site and this study just gets them involved out of the office for a few hours and a couple of free pub lunches while debating the matter thrown in.
no share, no merger, thats my opinion
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