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| It would not surprise me if Gale had signed, the one thing that would surprise me though is Mr Carter paying him the sort of wages talked about on here.
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| Quote ="chissitt"It would not surprise me if Gale had signed, the one thing that would surprise me though is Mr Carter paying him the sort of wages talked about on here.'"
Spot on.
Clearly Luppy's mate from the chip shop is not running on all four cylinders and neither are some posters on here if they believe that guff.
Since when has a player whose best years are gone commanded the same money he did three or four years ago. Added to that, since when did Trinity under MC ever pay over the odd for any player. True we signed a duffer in Lineham but he was never on the monies quoted on here and we paid the going rate, nothing more.
Why on earth would we pay Gale far more than Miller when the club made it very clear they were desperate to keep Miller. By the logic of this forum Cas must be paying Miller the best part of 500k. However as we know the logic only works one way on here.
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| Quote ="marc271841"Or people are debating the pros and cons of potential signings.
Seriously join in and offer your opinion. You might find it fun. It might relax you.'"
With 34+ k posts some may say I join in far too often, but thanks for the laboured jibe
Back to the point. So in the last 48 hours, this forum has gone from...
Gale signing, too Gale signing for 250k a season, even though he's knocking on and wasn't even on that amount at Hull, or possibly anywhere else. Apparently the same money that the iconic Fifita was on but who the club let go because 1: they couldn't afford him and 2: He was considered too old and 3: Something Dave agreed with as he's retired. This offer has come from us, a club for whom 250k makes up nearly 1/5th of our player spend, seriously!
Then a random comment that Albert Kelly is OOC and now he's in the frame. Now I suppose this one is possible but it's a million miles from likely at this point.
And then it gets silly. Apparently we were offered Cherry Evans as a junior but being the idiots we are we turned him down. Yep, this was the hottest young HB in the NRL at the time and we were offered him, he wanted to come and we turned the poor waif away. Seriously you couldn't make it up yet someone did, as they have with Gales wage demands.
None of this is debating, this is just people making stuff up to further discredit the club and tbh that doesn't relax me, shouldn't relax you either if you're a fan with any common sense. Either that or your Jon Wilkins and I'll take my £5 thanks
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| Lineham deffo looked trimmer yesterday at Fev
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Lineham deffo looked trimmer yesterday at Fev'"
I really hope so and I hope he has impressed them enough to take over the bulk of his wages, that would be great for all concerned.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Lineham deffo looked trimmer yesterday at Fev'"
Well, let's be honest, It wouldn't take much.....
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| Quote ="vastman"With 34+ k posts=#FF0000 some may say I join in far too often, but thanks for the laboured jibe
Back to the point. So in the last 48 hours, this forum has gone from...
Gale signing, too Gale signing for 250k a season, even though he's knocking on and wasn't even on that amount at Hull, or possibly anywhere else. Apparently the same money that the iconic Fifita was on but who the club let go because 1: they couldn't afford him and 2: He was considered too old and 3: Something Dave agreed with as he's retired. This offer has come from us, a club for whom 250k makes up nearly 1/5th of our player spend, seriously!
Then a random comment that Albert Kelly is OOC and now he's in the frame. Now I suppose this one is possible but it's a million miles from likely at this point.
And then it gets silly. Apparently we were offered Cherry Evans as a junior but being the idiots we are we turned him down. Yep, this was the hottest young HB in the NRL at the time and we were offered him, he wanted to come and we turned the poor waif away. Seriously you couldn't make it up yet someone did, as they have with Gales wage demands.
None of this is debating, this is just people making stuff up to further discredit the club and tbh that doesn't relax me, shouldn't relax you either if you're a fan with any common sense. Either that or your Jon Wilkins and I'll take my £5 thanks
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The first comment is definitely seconded.......
On reflection, I think Gale would be OK.
Look how many times he's done us over in someone else's shirt.....
At Hull, if he wasn't in the team, I doubt whether they'd have scored tbh........
As some have said, he is a winner - you cant deny that and I think for a season he'd be OK for us.
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| Quote ="Spookisback"He’s played 20+ first grade and three international games… jai Field had only played 17 first grade games when Wigan signed him.'"
Yes but we all know that rules are there to be bent if you're Wigan signing a player.
Look at the recent post about Quentin Pongia and the fact that we couldn't get him a visa and then lo and behold a week later he had signed for Wigan and a visa was no issue.
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And then it gets silly. Apparently we were offered Cherry Evans as a junior but being the idiots we are we turned him down. Yep, this was the hottest young HB in the NRL at the time and we were offered him, he wanted to come and we turned the poor waif away. Seriously you couldn't make it up yet someone did, as they have with Gales wage demands.
None of this is debating, this is just people making stuff up to further discredit the club and tbh that doesn't relax me, shouldn't relax you either if you're a fan with any common sense. Either that or your Jon Wilkins and I'll take my £5 thanks
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My god you are so full of yourself and cannot accept that being the fountain of all knowledge you don’t actually know everything, you have an opinion on everything and recently gone into overdrive with posts defending the club. We were offered Cherry Evans long before your new mentor came onto the scene. He was only an inexperienced unknown junior so obviously it would be just a gamble.
I regret that it is not made up but was just an interesting fact but up steps the oracle the club’s knight in shining armour to defend their virtue, even when it is not called into question. It is just your fallback position defend don’t think just defend after all you are now almost part of the family, a distant part but useful when required.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Well, let's be honest, It wouldn't take much.....'"
Well it obviously did for our fitness coach!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"My god you are so full of yourself and cannot accept that being the fountain of all knowledge you don’t actually know everything, you have an opinion on everything and recently gone into overdrive with posts defending the club. We were offered Cherry Evans long before your new mentor came onto the scene. He was only an inexperienced unknown junior so obviously it would be just a gamble.
I regret that it is not made up but was just an interesting fact but up steps the oracle the club’s knight in shining armour to defend their virtue, even when it is not called into question. It is just your fallback position defend don’t think just defend after all you are now almost part of the family, a distant part but useful when required.
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Total lie. Cherry Evans was never an unknown, get real.
"Cherry-Evans played 46 games for the National Youth Competition team of Manly Warringah Sea Eagles over the 2008 (aged 1icon_cool.gif and 2009 season where he scored 246 points in total including 24 tries. He was named on the interchange bench of the 2009 Toyota Cup season's team of the year."
Yeah, a real unknown
He started with Manly reserves from the age 19 and has been with them ever since and by 21 was a full blown international. Yet you persist with the idea that this player who's potential was well known to Manly and other NRL clubs was offered to an ailing SL team.
As it happens I was far better connected with the club in 2009 than I am now and that one never came up, funny that. In fairness lots of players were mentioned in those days and some I forget, but a player called Cherry, nobody forgets that.
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt1"Wonder if Fev need to offload now? Maybe Ford worth a shot'"
Truth is we only have Lino and Gaskell so we do need another HB. However as is always the case in RL, if you have a big strong aggressive pack that is on the front foot, most HB's will look decent.
If I were looking for a good value player with real potential and a fair bit of experience I'd look no further than Jordan Lilley at Bradford.
Not a world beater but a good foil for Lino and not lacking in quality. One things for sure, Mash will know him as a player and that matters imho rather than reputation.
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| I think one of the other creative/attacking areas we really miss out on is at hooker
Really like hood but his main strength is defence, which is ferocious, the guys a real asset to us
I know this is fantasy rl as it were but some one like a Brad drew at hooker to go with Lino and a game controlling half in the Tim smith mould (but with a kicking game) is what I’d like to see
Be nice to get shaul tied up too
Thought he was a terrific edition to the team
It goes without saying we need to replace Dave and Arona too
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Well it obviously did for our fitness coach!'"
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| Lilley was really rated but not sure how he did at Bradford. Lots of player will be looking for super league deals and Leigh need to get their quoter down. Been late to the market is something that might work in our favour. NRL releases etc might bode well for us.
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| Quote ="vastman"Total lie. Cherry Evans was never an unknown, get real.
"Cherry-Evans played 46 games for the National Youth Competition team of Manly Warringah Sea Eagles over the 2008 (aged 1icon_cool.gif and 2009 season where he scored 246 points in total including 24 tries. He was named on the interchange bench of the 2009 Toyota Cup season's team of the year."
Yeah, a real unknown
He started with Manly reserves from the age 19 and has been with them ever since and by 21 was a full blown international. Yet you persist with the idea that this player who's potential was well known to Manly and other NRL clubs was offered to an ailing SL team.
As it happens I was far better connected with the club in 2009 than I am now and that one never came up, funny that. In fairness lots of players were mentioned in those days and some I forget, but a player called Cherry, nobody forgets that.'"
It sounds a bit like the Henry Paul situation, he was contracted to the NRL but still joined us but hey they obviously didn’t tell you everything even then. I doubt player recruitment was part of your sycophants charter at the time.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It sounds a bit like the Henry Paul situation, he was contracted to the NRL but still joined us but hey they obviously didn’t tell you everything even then. I doubt player recruitment was part of your sycophants charter at the time.'"
Henry Paul joined the club when we were still part time on a match day contract at the end of the season. He was also not signed to a NSWRL club. That was a completely different world, that was even pre Ted, how there is even the remotest similarity with Cherry Evens is ludicrous.
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| Quote ="vastman"I really hope so and I hope he has impressed them enough to take over the bulk of his wages, that would be great for all concerned.'"
Best thing (as we have a few wingers) would be to explore a player swap deal.
I’d consider Springer for sure who looks like he’s matured enough for SL now. Maybe Morgan Smith ex Wire/London half who’s scored 20 try’s this season could be worth a look. All depends if Fev want Lineham of course.
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| Quote ="vastman"Henry Paul joined the club when we were still part time on a match day contract at the end of the season. He was also not signed to a NSWRL club. That was a completely different world, that was even pre Ted, how there is even the remotest similarity with Cherry Evens is ludicrous.'"
A bit like your many, many, many recent posts which even by your standards are excessive and that takes some doing.
I believe you met with JM to ask some stadium questions but cannot say anything without his approval, I would of thought even you would think to get this sorted but I guess it diminishes your feeling of self importance. We get hints of things you know but cannot say so what stadium questions have you been able to confirm.
At least that would be a rare interesting post from you but maybe you have not received clearance.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"A bit like your many, many, many recent posts which even by your standards are excessive and that takes some doing.
I believe you met with JM to ask some stadium questions but cannot say anything without his approval, I would of thought even you would think to get this sorted but I guess it diminishes your feeling of self importance. We get hints of things you know but cannot say so what stadium questions have you been able to confirm.
At least that would be a rare interesting post from you but maybe you have not received clearance.'"
There is a whole thread about his conversation. Go have a read.
And why are you surprised that JM would want to keep some answers to himself?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Quote ="vastman"I really hope so and I hope he has impressed them enough to take over the bulk of his wages, that would be great for all concerned.'"
Best thing (as we have a few wingers) would be to explore a player swap deal.
I’d consider Springer for sure who looks like he’s matured enough for SL now. Maybe Morgan Smith ex Wire/London half who’s scored 20 try’s this season could be worth a look. All depends if Fev want Lineham of course.'" Quote ="vastman"Truth is we only have Lino and Gaskell so we do need another HB. However as is always the case in RL, if you have a big strong aggressive pack that is on the front foot, most HB's will look decent.
If I were looking for a good value player with real potential and a fair bit of experience I'd look no further than Jordan Lilley at Bradford.
Not a world beater but a good foil for Lino and not lacking in quality. One things for sure, Mash will know him as a player and that matters imho rather than reputation.'"
A couple of Fev fans have suggested Morgan Smith might be heading to Wakefield. I think he's out of contract with us but I'd be a bit surprised if he got a SL gig - he's a very likeable player who always gives 100% and has a nose for the tryline at Championship level, but for me he doesn't have that creative ability to open up a defence necessary in a real top-end Championship half back.
Springer has recently signed on for Fev for next year (as has Ford btw as he was also mentioned), Lineham has gone ok for us but Championship looks his level now and I'd be surprised if we took over a big contract.
Jordan Lilley just hasn't progressed for me, he's steady enough but mid-level Championship and no more looks his level.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"A bit like your many, many, many recent posts which even by your standards are excessive and that takes some doing.
I believe you met with JM to ask some stadium questions but cannot say anything without his approval, I would of thought even you would think to get this sorted but I guess it diminishes your feeling of self importance. We get hints of things you know but cannot say so what stadium questions have you been able to confirm.
At least that would be a rare interesting post from you but maybe you have not received clearance.'"
I've really no idea what you're on about. What has any of this to do with signing Cherry Evans or Luke Gale or Henry Paul?
I've told you and your fellow conspiracy theorists, I've now met JM twice, regarding various non playing issues. That's all, no insider knowledge other than I got the impression no signings were finalised - I'm allowed to get an impression without actually having to know it as fact.
Just stick to the point, you're making yourself look ridiculous with these Area 51 flights of fancy.
Now if you'll excuse me I've got Mash on the other line wanting to run a signing past me, then I'm popping over to see Shaun Wane to finalise the England squad
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"A couple of Fev fans have suggested Morgan Smith might be heading to Wakefield. I think he's out of contract with us but I'd be a bit surprised if he got a SL gig - he's a very likeable player who always gives 100% and has a nose for the tryline at Championship level, but for me he doesn't have that creative ability to open up a defence necessary in a real top-end Championship half back.
Springer has recently signed on for Fev for next year (as has Ford btw as he was also mentioned), Lineham has gone ok for us but Championship looks his level now and I'd be surprised if we took over a big contract.
Jordan Lilley just hasn't progressed for me, he's steady enough but mid-level Championship and no more looks his level.'"
Don't agree about Lilley, I've watched him a fair bit through the years and I think he's a decent player - we have a live wire in Lino who's been told to step up, we need a steady player to go with him, one who will be happy to play a supporting role.
As for Morgan Smith, that strikes me very much as a Applegarth/Trinity type signing. Get your point regarding creativity but a lot of that depends on the coach, the plan and the players around you. The vital one is that if he gives 100% as you suggest then he can do alright in SL. Not every player in SL is superior to those in the Championship in terms of pure ability, far from it. What matter is that you are willing to do the job you are given to the best of that ability.
I'm not going to pretend like some on here will that I know much about him, so I won't dismiss or endorse him, but if the Coach sees something in him that suits our squad then welcome aboard.
I learned my lesson with Paul Sykes, he was supposedly passed it when he was with us ten years ago, and despite no really being a HB when he joined us he ended up being one of the best we've had in SL. With one or two extreme exceptions every player has a clean slate when they join the RW&B, they can write their own story.
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