Applegarth and Ford need to go

For all the good Carter did at the club he won't be remembered for any of it after this season.

Carter won't go without the stand named after him or a statue outside it, he's bigger than the club

Couldn't agree more on this.

Eight games, nilled four times, total of 47 points scored. Absolute joke.

He likes to think he is.

Nobody is.

Let's hope the statue resembles a flacid penis

And after that first game 4 tries in the next 7 games. Have we ever been that bad?

Imagine how bad it would have been if they were still being coached improperly by Willie Poching...

It's time to change, before it's too late.
We've gone with a budget squad and an inexperienced SL coach and sadly, very sadly, we have been found wanting (massively).
.8 games in, almost a third of the season and with the exception of the Salford game, we have not looked close to troubling our opposition and on too many occasions, we haven't troubled the scoreboard.
Excuses can be made for different things but, the bottom line in that we are 0 from 8.
There was plenty of effort from most of the 17 on show tonight but, sorry, it's time for a change.

I feel sorry for Applegarth but, this has all the hallmarks of the Casper Smith season and our coach, unfortunately, is out of his depth.

Poor form from some of our "fans" tonight too. Not our greatest night.

A lot of people saying sack Apelgarth but for me he’s a coach we should look to keep at trinity. Possibly for the future but he’s still a valuable asset even if it is only meant to be in the youth/assistant set up for the coming years.

I’d give him till the Leigh game and expect a result but I wouldn’t sack him from the club if we don’t win.

I would look to bring him back into an assistant role alongside Ford if there’s a change to happen and look for a coach to come in above them both.

That said, if there’s not the money there then it’s irrelevant.

If the board stick with him through thick and think no matter what then I really hope he gets some success this year as it must be a real rough journey so far for him.

Losing Jowitt, Murphy, Bowden and Tanginoa nearly all year is just silly rotten luck to start with.

I really hope he and the squad can turn it around vs Leigh at home.

If we didn’t win tonight under Applegarth, we won’t win against Leigh under Applegarth. The bloke needs to step aside.

I was one of those who thought Mark and James was a shrewd investment in the future… and they may still be… sadly if they remain in charge this year… with no squad improvement, then we will be relegated.

Ps I quite like Will Dagger, decent squad player… but he’s not half the player that Corey Hall is!

Your talking rubbish, If he had not taken over the club, the only status we would have out side the ground would have been welcome to Morrisons The only mistake Mr Carter made ,was not to back W Poaching and backing the players .Did not take W Poaching to long to find out that Gaskell was not a 6 and sent the so called winger to Featherstone These coaches though it was wrong and we have paid the price big time

Who refused to extend poaching s contract
Who hired Mash and Fordy
Who sat by and watched players like Gaskill,Lineham come to the club
Who signed Tafua,Proctor and Atoni

There is one undisputed fact in life, the performance of every organisation is a direct reflection of the skill and quality of the man at the very top.
The rugby side of this club has been an inept shambles for the last three seasons at least. Well before Mash arrived. If Mash is sacked by Monday I really feel no one could pull this mess around by the end of this season

The thing for carter is that he saved us, no question. Unfortunately though the board never got the understanding that they needed a respected rugby brain to run the rugby side off field and thought they could. Lack of money in last 3 yrs been a killer for us. But whose fault is that? It’s not the fans, only the board could look to get inward investment from other areas/people. Fans come to see good rugby. So yes mr Carter is now the villain as seen by fans.
Poaching should have been backed end of or did his face really not fit?
Mash has to go, like it or not the buck stops with him as he was happy to take the role.
Just who could/would come in for us. We’re not exactly a draw for a coach are we.
We love our club and just hope this can be rectified. So much gone right for the board ie the stand as I don’t think anyone else would have got a penny from the original deal we had but as a rugby club it’s what happens on the field that ultimately counts.

I think we'd struggle against Leigh Miners Rangers at the moment.

The big difference is Peets has Wayne watching his back ,whereas Mash has Ford who himself is a rookie at this level .

He also has Radlinski and loads of money.

Probably through necessity but, we've lost the top 5/6 players from last seasons squad and each one is a lesser player.
The current squad has the ability to scrape 11th spot but, no better. However, with Leigh proving to be ok in SL this time, we are now relying on one of the other sides being worse then us and unfortunately, after last night, we know that there isn't a worse side than us.
I dont think we can wait until there are 6/8 games left to roll the dice, something has to be done NOW.

Yep good companies might try something new but they always put it to bed quick if it’s not working. Change now or it will be too late.

I think the question asked should be, do the powers that be actually want us to stay up? I'm sure they've worked out all the financial implications if we do go down, how will sacking Applegarth be financially beneficial to the club? Because seemingly every decision that's been made in recent history, is down to finances, some of them necessary, but not all of them. Just on the actual playing side of things, I've mentioned on here a few times, these names. Green, Arundel, Josh Wood, Tangata etc, they were only here 2 years ago, and we won games with those players. Are this 'crop' worse than them ability wise??

I don’t think changing the coach is always a good thing but it’s blatantly obvious after 8 games something isn’t right.
I don’t know who would be prepared to take this lot over though because too many of them are not SL Quality.
I honestly think we’ve had it this season, and sadly after 63years of supporting trinity I don’t really care. I’m sick of watching the crap they serve up. We’re miles too slow and not good enough. End of!

The big difference is Matty served his apprenticeship, only moving onto a new role when the time was right and someone else had vacated the position, he learned his trade very well and isn’t just a coach by numbers coach.

Not posted on here for a while now due to comments I made as Applegarth was made coach and got lambasted for it.I did say I would eat humble pie if I was wrong, however it doesn’t look like I will be…… maybe there is time but doubt it.
I get the club has a budget to stick to etc however, the guy never real did much as a player did he, I think I did more to be honest. He certainly wouldn’t be in my top players at trinity over the years. So because he did ok with the younger sides, doesn’t mean that he will be any good at professional level. That’s what I said back then and I’m sticking to it now. Also I will say again, chester should never have gone……….. And I get told I don’t know anything. There is no way in any rugby league game that you are either nilled or hardly scoring regularly, I thought it was impossible but I will hold my hands up and say I was wrong. Enjoy the rest of the season if you can. My ticket has gone elsewhere as I can’t be bothered with the 4 hour journey to go watch it I’m sorry. Just one last point, there is no excitement watching RL anymore it’s hanging on by it’s coat tails. There is no atmosphere and I will not waste my money attending any game anymore. It’s not worth the hassle of getting to games. The best bit to an RL game these days is the build up about 1 hour before it starts……….. I can’t believe I said that but it’s true(in my opinion)