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| Would love to see either of them with us, but both.
It would be great, and we can dream.
Cant realistically see it happen though.
Hope im wrong on that
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| Quote ="TRB"On top of what we have, a quality hooker (to replace Moore), and these 2 - I think we could push top 4, certainly be in the mix with Cas. Not very likely, but we can hope!'"
I can think of a number of reasons why a player of Andrew Fafita's calibre wouldn't join us but there are two stumbling blocks that bother me most.
1: If MC sticks to his ethos and only pays what the club can afford then we can't afford A.Fafita although we are one of the few teams with that amount of space under the cap. The only way I can see it working is if MC with I suspect JK's help has put together a group of backers for this particular project as we did all those years ago with Wally Lewis.
2: The elephent in the room known as A.Tupou. We would need to free up a quota spce and because he's crocked and he's expensive he looks the most obvious, though you could also shed Arona or Bill Tupou at a push. I can't imagine we want to pay him off and I'm guessing he isn't walking. Now I don't know how this works but if a player sustains a cereer ending injury whilst playing for the club then doesn't the clubs player insurance pay out, seems the best way out for all if that were the case and could be proved.
At the moment it seems like a mountain to climb.
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| Quote ="vastman"
2: The elephent in the room known as A.Tupou. We would need to free up a quota spce and because he's crocked and he's expensive he looks the most obvious,'"
Some bad news for you Vasty, the guy is still sat in his big house with his expensive car and huge wage. He is hanging around Wakey like a bad smell. I was hoping he would have enough of a moral conscious and do the honourable thing and retire, but right now it could be he has decided to take an 'Ian Kirke attitude'I really hope we can persuade him to go.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Some bad news for you Vasty, the guy is still sat in his big house with his expensive car and huge wage. He is hanging around Wakey like a bad smell. I was hoping he would have enough of a moral conscious and do the honourable thing and retire, but right now it could be he has decided to take an 'Ian Kirke attitude'I really hope we can persuade him to go.'"
Massive difference between A Tupou and Ian Shirke. All it took for Shirke to sit out was a broken pinkie.
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| Quote ="vastman"I can think of a number of reasons why a player of Andrew Fafita's calibre wouldn't join us but there are two stumbling blocks that bother me most.
1: If MC sticks to his ethos and only pays what the club can afford then we can't afford A.Fafita although we are one of the few teams with that amount of space under the cap. The only way I can see it working is if MC with I suspect JK's help has put together a group of backers for this particular project as we did all those years ago with Wally Lewis.
2: The elephent in the room known as A.Tupou. We would need to free up a quota spce and because he's crocked and he's expensive he looks the most obvious, though you could also shed Arona or Bill Tupou at a push. I can't imagine we want to pay him off and I'm guessing he isn't walking. Now I don't know how this works but if a player sustains a cereer ending injury whilst playing for the club then doesn't the clubs player insurance pay out, seems the best way out for all if that were the case and could be proved.
At the moment it seems like a mountain to climb.'"
Don't forget the marquee player rule which would mean any club not already utilising it could sign him if he became available
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Some bad news for you Vasty, the guy is still sat in his big house with his expensive car and huge wage. He is hanging around Wakey like a bad smell. I was hoping he would have enough of a moral conscious and do the honourable thing and retire, but right now it could be he has decided to take an 'Ian Kirke attitude'I really hope we can persuade him to go.'"
You continue to bad mouth Toops and you and I are going to have serious problem....
Anthony Tupou is a genuine great of this game...
his involvement and a top Eight finish is no coincidence ...,
Further .... the access to players like the Fifitas come directly from
Contact and reputation of Anthony....
Get back in your hole Buster you don't have and never will have .... earned the right to
Take a dig st someone like Anthony Toops!!!!
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| Quote ="Spookdownunder"You continue to bad mouth Toops and you and I are going to have serious problem....
Anthony Tupou is a genuine great of this game...
his involvement and a top Eight finish is no coincidence ...,
Further .... the access to players like the Fifitas come directly from
Contact and reputation of Anthony....
Get back in your hole Buster you don't have and never will have .... earned the right to
Take a dig st someone like Anthony Toops!!!!'"
Anthony Tupou is not in the same category as Ian Kirke.
In his day Tupou was no doubt world class but unfortunately it appears at 34 years old those days are gone...the mind is still willing but the body is weak and he appears to be carrying a leg/hip injury and walks with a permanent limp when I've seen him.
There have been certain games where he has shown real quality I recall his game against Catalan at home he came off the bench running onto the ball really hard taking 2/3 to tackle him every time and also scored a good try out wide. It's a shame those performances weren't more frequent.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Anthony Tupou is not in the same category as Ian Kirke.
In his day Tupou was no doubt world class but unfortunately it appears at 34 years old those days are gone...the mind is still willing but the body is weak and he appears to be carrying a leg/hip injury and walks with a permanent limp when I've seen him.
There have been certain games where he has shown real quality I recall his game against Catalan at home he came off the bench running onto the ball really hard taking 2/3 to tackle him every time and also scored a good try out wide. It's a shame those performances weren't more frequent.'"
Let's be honest here - he is our top paid player and was brought to us as a potentialmatch winner. He's a great guy and genuinely gives of his best (so not an Ian Kirk), but we've seen fleeting glimpses of his quality work and we could have got better value elsewhere. Even the Sky commentary team have commented that they were disappointed with his input.
I am trying hard not to be disrespectful as he has had an excellent career, but we can barely afford to have so much tied up in a player who hasn't quite got the legs to deliver on the pitch anymore.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Don't forget the marquee player rule which would mean any club not already utilising it could sign him if he became available'"
I didn't know that, interesting.
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| Quote ="Spookdownunder"You continue to bad mouth Toops and you and I are going to have serious problem....
Anthony Tupou is a genuine great of this game...
his involvement and a top Eight finish is no coincidence ...,
Further .... the access to players like the Fifitas come directly from
Contact and reputation of Anthony....
Get back in your hole Buster you don't have and never will have .... earned the right to
Take a dig st someone like Anthony Toops!!!!'"
Grow up !!!! The guy is finished.I suggest the clubs that he has been great with may owe him a pension, but not us. What he has contributed to our club in comparison to what he has been paid has been a terrible deal that we can't afford. I am not saying he has not been great in the past and he deserves respect for that. Neil Fox was also a great player but you would not offer him a contract !!!
My point is, he has tried but there is nothing left to give. As the season has progressed, he has contributed less and less. We did get the odd glimpse of he talent early days but even those little flashes of his past ability are no longer there.
If the guy takes a long hard look at himself and does the honourable thing and retires I wish him all the best and accept he at least tried a season with us. However if he carries on into next season just to take the money and contribute zero, then he deserves all the critiscm that will come his way.
The club always comes first to me and when players are getting very highly paid I expect them to pay back on the field, I don't expect them to rip us off.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/36498887
If the option is with Trinity to sign David on for another year it's a no brainer....'"
Yes totally agree. Also as a side issue can you all remember when we were rumoured to be signing him how many so called NRL and Aussie experts derided us and poured scorn on the bloke. He is one of a long line of so called reserve grade rubbish that the know it alls from down under said would never make it.
If he doesn't come back to us and gets a better deal elsewhere, then I wish him well, the guy gave us all he had and never let us down.
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Well considering where he gone instead of the 4 nations should any potential parting of ways with A Tupou not be amicable then A Fafita would definitely be a no go.
From what I have read it seems genuine that a contract has been offered, perhaps not massive as some articles seem to suggest, buts it's intriguing that the lure is to join up with his brother, which again suggests David is here for next season or will be if they come as a pair.
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Well considering where he gone instead of the 4 nations should any potential parting of ways with A Tupou not be amicable then A Fafita would definitely be a no go.
From what I have read it seems genuine that a contract has been offered, perhaps not massive as some articles seem to suggest, buts it's intriguing that the lure is to join up with his brother, which again suggests David is here for next season or will be if they come as a pair.
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| Call me a pessimist but I think there's more chance of seeing Lord Lucan ride out onto the new turf of our Newmarket stadium on the back of Shergar than there is seeing Andrew Fifita playing for us.
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| As much as I would love this can't realistically see it but then again we said this about this time last year when we signed Anthiny Tupou.
On top of that we have clinched a deal on Sam Williams and believe beat a few others to his signature.
If it does happen it is another indication that we as a club are definately on the up.
If we can sort out the Scott Moore issue and sort ourselves out with a decent replacement, I have no doubt we would be top 8 material, maybe looking upward toward top 4.
Sort this and the ground and the future could be bright, but not orange
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| As somebody said earlier have we had a busines man stump up some money like with Wally Lewis.
It maybe MC has found the extra investor hes been looking for.
Maybe a certain company that has bought the ground?
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So that seals the deal then.
I hope some of us aren't going to be stalking Fifita's every movement.
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So that seals the deal then.
I hope some of us aren't going to be stalking Fifita's every movement.
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| Quote ="Willzay"So that seals the deal then.
I hope some of us aren't going to be stalking Fifita's every movement.'"
In asmadasa's world that's proof positive
Yet you've got to hope that on this one he's right
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| Quote ="vastman"In asmadasa's world that's proof positive
Yet you've got to hope that on this one he's right
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FFS I only pointed out that A.Fifita is going to A.Tupou's wedding in Bali...
Read the thread....some posters have been slagging off 'A.Tupou still in his big house in Wakefield with his flash car' when in fact he is in Bali getting married.......
Prince Buster on this thread...'Some bad news for you Vasty, the guy is still sat in his big house with his expensive car and huge wage. He is hanging around Wakey like a bad smell. I was hoping he would have enough of a moral conscious and do the honourable thing and retire, but right now it could be he has decided to take an 'Ian Kirke attitude'I really hope we can persuade him to go.'
I use the Newsnow website for RL news articles of which this is one. Some people are reading more into what I've posted.
IMHO I don't think it will happen that A.Fifita will sign for trinity...
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| Quote ="Willzay"I hope=#FF0000 some of us aren't going to be stalking Fifita's every movement.'"
Do you use the word loosely or have you predetermined that you will be one of the select band on here who in your mind will be making an effort to do so.
Fwiw I would have thought that you will have already identified your targets' of scorn and ridicule for the coming season
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FFS I only pointed out that A.Fifita is going to A.Tupou's wedding in Bali...
Read the thread....some posters have been slagging off 'A.Tupou still in his big house in Wakefield with his flash car' when in fact he is in Bali getting married.......
Prince Buster on this thread...'Some bad news for you Vasty, the guy is still sat in his big house with his expensive car and huge wage. He is hanging around Wakey like a bad smell. I was hoping he would have enough of a moral conscious and do the honourable thing and retire, but right now it could be he has decided to take an 'Ian Kirke attitude'I really hope we can persuade him to go.'
I use the Newsnow website for RL news articles of which this is one. Some people are reading more into what I've posted.
IMHO I don't think it will happen that A.Fifita will sign for trinity...'"
Over reaction there, you take it way to serious - a standard pee off would have done.
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| It certainly would be quite coup for us if we can pull this one off.
Anyone fancy a new fanzine, 'Andrew Fifita is coming'?
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| I have a dream where David Fifita has one of his better games, creating mayhem with his unpredictability and strength and size. He goes off after 20 mins to a shake of the hand with his impact replacement, Andrew Fifita, who creates mayhem with his ........ etc
Where do I buy my season ticket?
I just can't help think, however, that being with his brother may not equate to playing with his brother. It sounds like he wants away from Aus, but clubs like Leeds or Huddersfield could provide the brotherly proximity but the greater prospect.
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