He is the RL equivalent of a glass cannon.

That said, people shouldn't forget his contribution to the winning run with late match winners against Leeds and Widnes alongside key contributions in others like wire.

The left hand edge of Ashurst, Hall and Johnstone with Jowitt chiming in has been great to watch and the sooner we can get that edge fit and firing again the better.

I also think he is an arm round the shoulder sort of guy, so giving him a drill sergeant style "you're crap sort it out" doing won't do him any good.

3 missed tackles tells its own story plus Jowitt organises the defensive line in front of him and has good positional sense whereas hall does not.

Tbf halls only doing what cc has told him ,OK he's defence is not the best, but I can name a bloody handful who were pathetic on Thursday night

I do understand what you are saying but some people fail to understand is if his defence was as good as his attack he'd be playing for wigan/wire etc

People's expectations are too high
He is a classic trin style player the positives he brings to the attack out weight his one on one defence issues for me

But not when he is playing fullback, defence first, any attacking benefits are a bonus. Players around the fullback need to have confidence in his defensive abilities (sometimes I'm not sure that CH has confidence in his own abilities in this area) and the fullback needs to have confidence in those around him.

Maybe so, but at least Johnstone went for the ball. Ok he dropped it, I can take that. What I can't take is a player allowing the ball to bounce first which seems to be Halls preference.

TBH if everyone was fit we wouldn't be having this discussion because Hall would not have played IMO.He got his chance through the lack of players available and I would hope he doesn't feature once we get players back.

Watch the game again Smew.Hall actually took two high balls in 'heavy traffic'.Yes he was at fault some of the time, but not all of the time.

I don't think that is the case now because Hall in the centres along with Ashurst does more for Johnson and Wakefield than any other combination. I saw Toupou leave a high ball, drop a high ball and gift Hull KR a try. I saw Lynn miss numerous tackles but yet what is the topic but Hall.
I think he is our best centre, he may not be a full back but at least he will give it a go however when you have several against one because others have missed their tackles there is not a lot any full back can do.
I know the other figure of hate is BJB but once again we noticed his absence on Thursday just like we will do if Hall is not in the team.

Don't think Hall is a figure of hate at all...people just putting their views over . As I said earlier yes B. Tupou had his worst game for us Thurs night but for me what Hall gives in attack he more than takes away in defence and has no intention of putting his body on the line....and this isn't new , i's a consistent aspect of his play.

Craig Hall is a good player. Wakey's sort of player.
Has Hardaker become a rubbish fullback because Leeds this season are struggling?
Some people need to look at the bigger picture, our fate regarding where we finish is in our own hands, as opposed to last year, when we were preparing for the middle 8's after 10 games.
We have won 7 out of 11 and still it's not good enough.

Hall confirmed exactly what anyone who watched us last season already knew, that he is not a full back! Playing him there last season destroyed his confidence and expecting anything else to happen this time was just madness. He either needs to play in the centres or wing, otherwise should not be in the team. Having said that he would be in the right centre for me with BJB on the wing with Arundel and Johnstone on the left.
If we need someone to stand in for young Max Jowitt at FB then it should be Tansey or possibly even Owen but NOT Hall.

Morgan Escare anyone?

I don't know why CC put's him at FB, I personally like his attacking play it may not always pay off but credit where credit is due Wakey would not be in the position there are in now without his contribution.

Injuries to Jowitt and BJB as far as I'm aware.

I don't think Jowett was injured, my information is he was rested.

lets hope he was only rested, Hudds. up next and with Broughy on form and with his kicking game one of the best in Super League we are going to need someone reliable at full back under the high ball.

DB didn't play agin Cas, don't know why he didn't play.

Dead leg against Widnes.

Coach said he was only 40:60 to play against Cas.....Probably being rested for Wakey game like Campese as seen as a more likely game to win.....

Fair enough, I was just going from this report which said him and England were withdrawn before the game due to injury.

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England elbow problem I believe.

the only player in out team that looks dangerous in attack- needs to play every week

Only?? the season didn't start 2 weeks ago you know??!

www.totalrl.com/toronto-confirm- ... raig-hall/ Interesting!

www.totalrl.com/toronto-confirm- ... raig-hall/ Interesting!