Anyone think webbo picked team on sun with aving pita n sam must together

They would if its a pre arranged break and they've made plans.

The Italian had Leeds says differently and so should we

and the Leeds players are now on holiday

There not in season the point is they had to report and you know what your attitude is exactly where Mr agar went wrong too soft with players who haven't earned their corn

I agree, they haven't earned it

Good way to get off on the wrong foot and cost the club a shiit load of money. They don't earn what footballers earn to cover it either. If we've agreed they can go, if indeed they are going somewhere, then the right thing to do is honour it

Hi alright schunter let's not hurt their feelings they don't get what soccer players get I agree but I reckon they get well paid for a few hours training in the morning and then an hour and half not doing a right lot Sunday afternoon give me strengh

After recent woeful displays I don't think the players should be getting time off. You could say a fair few have already been taking it easy this season.

With a few exceptions this lot need a good old fashioned rollicking.

Kleinhorst and Lynne are taking the mickey with the length of their lay offs for their respective injuries. Surely Lynne could play with an injection, it's only his toe that hurts when he runs ffs.

They probably shouldn't but if it's been agreed then all cancelling but will do is create Ill feeling which will help nobody. The lesson is don't agree it in the first place

I'm sorry but how do you know how lynes toe only hurts when he runs? He played 2 or 3 games with it injured so he's probably made it worse. Keinhorst is quality but he's had a problem with his hammy which can be a horrible injury to get back from. People bag Lyne whilst he's playing now he's getting bagged for not playing, poor kid can't win! Get behind the squad not just the team, try and get some feel good factor back at the club, get the north stand rocking again. The fans could play a big part in survival with 5 home games on the trot coming up.

Re lynne, iirc agar stated it hurts when he runs when talking about injuries. We have kirmond playing when clearly not fit and taking pain killing injections. I don't see why lynne couldn't play with an injection, then we wouldn't have to have had mathers on the wing.

As for kleinhorst, I have no idea if he is quality as he has managed less than 40 mins rugby and we have just completed round 15! We will be lucky if we get 5 games out of him which is a luxury in our squad we can ill afford when we have the other first choice who is made of biscuit

That is pure conjecture you have no idea just how much it hurts when he runs. And using Kirmond as an example just makes the point, he's clearly not been fit and has underperformed as a result. To moan at players for not playing when unfit is out of order IMO

Agreed.

Well we will have to agree to disagree. Players play with minor injuries all the time. By what agar said his is a minor injury.

In reply to schunter post re kirmond, the point I was making his he is willing to go through the pain barrier to play with what clearly is more of an issue than a sore toe. I don't dispute it has meant he is not as effective, but shows a level of commitment that imo Lynne is lacking

Apart from the injury, the only thing Kirmond is missing is Tim Smith.

....the rumours are growing stronger by the day !!

100% agree posted this a while ago.

Was gonna post this in the NGBC thread, but its been locked now!!

I think there is some value in the fact that it is clear our players are very low in confidence and therefore under performing. Their whole body language is downbeat and this permeates throughout their game, coming out as weak tackles, running poor lines and generally looking like losers before they have even begun.

Webster needs to get them to puff their chests out, gain some arrogance and really go for it. Otherwise we're stuffed!!

Agree. People state some are not putting the effort in but for me it's not as black and white as that. Only rarely have I thought players are actually wilfully not trying. I suppose it's about degrees and many factors compounded lead to poor performances rather than an overt intention to not try hard. That's not to say some players dont need to get their fingers out their 'arris's mind...

Rumours?
We are signing Fleetwood Mac for the half time entertainment?

Excellent. I'll have my ticket for that.

Interesting reading peoples comments the consensus is Agar out = good.

My NRL club the NZWarriors have just gone through this process. Coach Mathew Elliot was Sacked after five rounds of the Comp and his assistant Andrew McFadden took over.

A lot of people were concerned that Mcfadden would be no better than Elliot since Mcfadden has been working under Elliot.

Nothing could have been further from reality. I hope it turns out the same for Wakey where the assistant turns out to be an instant hit and a revelation.

Certainly it is a mistake to assume the assistant is the same man as the head coach , even if they have been working to the head coaches plan for years.

I agree that emphasis needs to be loaded on defensive coaching first.

The worry here is because Webster has been alongside Agar for about 6/7 years ans known nothing else!

All the better placed to see where it's all gone wrong perhaps