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| You can change the coach as often as you like, while ever ted is running the show it will make no difference.
Up until JK we were heading for relegation.
Up until JK losing 3 of his key players for last season, we were making good progress on the field, year on year.
Bad chairmen cling onto their job, while good coaches don't.
Put those players back into his squad and we would possibly have made the play offs again, relative success? Put a professional, proactive and relatively well financed board in, and who knows?
Where can we get one? But replacing one coach with another is only short term firefighting!!
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| Quote ="chapster"yes its your fault, entirely and no one elses!
problem solved we can move on to a brighter better future
together without al we are stronger'"
It would seem to be the case, i thought this coming seasons scapegoat would be a player but it seems its going to be me, well its been a good innings so i can't complain, goodbye to ALL on here and good luck.
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| Please dont give up the cause we need people like you.
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| Quote ="chapster"Al
think the time has now passed where a viable alternative can be brought in and be a success sadly, no coach or investor in their right mind would come in now, however a year ago they probably would have, I got off here for a while because of the Newmarket will save our day mentality, it wont and would never have without a solid playing platform and the core fans that go with that, we had all our eggs in one basket from 2009 and now the basket has a bloody great big hole in it, i will always respect trb and others for what they have done for my club but in the end somebody somewhere got the economics and maths wrong, I fear now our best hope is a drop out of SL and a steady recovery over a period of time,no thats not our best hope, its our only hope.'"
All very true and maybe could be forgiven if they hadn't put all our eggs in the Pearman basket, then put all our eggs in the Thornes Park basket. With the current lot of eggs gone in the Newmarket basket do we have any eggs left let alone a basket to put them in?
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| Quote ="chapster" mutley cat is in fact an anagram of castigerfanbringwakeydown give or take a letter,or two.'"
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| Quote ="Jason"One thing announced at the Season Launch was that "we have sold more season tickets than ever before." Did anyone else think this was a bit of an exaggeration?'"
Every year we are told that season ticket sales are up 100% or so on the previous year. By my reckoning we must have had about 10 season ticket holders in our first year of super league and even that seems a large number if you add 100% each season!
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| I think it was one of those "we've sold more season tickets than this point last year" statements
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I don't understand why lots of people are having a go at TRB and AL. From what i have seen, these two put their time and effort in and love the club and if every other supporter were as committed to the cause as much as TRB and AL then the club would be far better off.
To all those people who are constantly having a go at the club, you should support your club through thick and thin. You might not agree with everything that is done but you should still offer your support. If you as so called supporters are not willing to do this then the club is far better off without you.'"
1. The reason people have a go at these two in particular is because they are simply in the firing line because of the way they defend the club (rightly of wrongly). As I posted on another thread some time ago people need someone to shake a stick at when they want / need answers. The club that people are so quick to defend are the one's who put these individuals in the firing line. What we have is a couple of passionate supporters who have gone above and beyond the role of the casual supporter. As far as every supporter being committed to the cause - they are committed to the cause, but no believing in the BoD or people within the club does not make a person any less committed. If you are looking for everyone to go along with everything club has to offer at the moment then can I suggest you move to Disneyland. You will find the fairytale you are looking for there.
For argument sake can you please tell me how a club that barely survives season after with decreasing attendances would be better off without the supporters who see it differently.
The fact is we are in this position because of the Chairman and the Board of Directors. They were taken in by Pearman, there are the one's who promised that our stadium would be updated when we won our right to super league (on appeal). Three years ago they were aware that things needed to be done to either sort out Belle Vue or to move. Once again they have struggled to deliver but have never struggled to point the finger at other people when it goes wrong. It's true what they say about excuses 'They are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink.'
The frustration comes from the lack of information, whether it be good or bad. I, along with many others don't expect the club to publicly state their accounts or go into great detail, but surely there would be less doom and gloom if somebody told us what was being done to try and maintain our future not only in Super League but as a club.
Just a simple statement along the lines of 'We as a club are frustrated at the decision for the current stadium plans but please bear with us. We have a fall back plan, unfortunately we are not in a position to release details until after our shareholders meeting.'
Instead some vague line now and again followed by the standard 'Together we are stronger'
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Quote ="trinfan71"1. The reason people have a go at these two in particular is because they are simply in the firing line because of the way they defend the club (rightly of wrongly). As I posted on another thread some time ago people need someone to shake a stick at when they want / need answers. The club that people are so quick to defend are the one's who put these individuals in the firing line. What we have is a couple of passionate supporters who have gone above and beyond the role of the casual supporter. As far as every supporter being committed to the cause - they are committed to the cause, but no believing in the BoD or people within the club does not make a person any less committed. If you are looking for everyone to go along with everything club has to offer at the moment then can I suggest you move to Disneyland. You will find the fairytale you are looking for there.
For argument sake can you please tell me how a club that barely survives season after with decreasing attendances would be better off without the supporters who see it differently.
The fact is we are in this position because of the Chairman and the Board of Directors. They were taken in by Pearman, there are the one's who promised that our stadium would be updated when we won our right to super league (on appeal). Three years ago they were aware that things needed to be done to either sort out Belle Vue or to move. Once again they have struggled to deliver but have never struggled to point the finger at other people when it goes wrong. It's true what they say about excuses 'They are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink.'
The frustration comes from the lack of information, whether it be good or bad. I, along with many others don't expect the club to publicly state their accounts or go into great detail, but surely there would be less doom and gloom if somebody told us what was being done to try and maintain our future not only in Super League but as a club.
Just a simple statement along the lines of 'We as a club are frustrated at the decision for the current stadium plans but please bear with us. We have a fall back plan, unfortunately we are not in a position to release details until after our shareholders meeting.'
Instead some vague line now and again followed by the standard 'Together we are stronger''"
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"It would seem to be the case, i thought this coming seasons scapegoat would be a player but it seems its going to be me, well its been a good innings so i can't complain, goodbye to ALL on here and good luck.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Recently at our last "audience with night", James Elston stood up and told us that we had a plan B which involved SL standard stadium. Was he stating a fact or just saying it to reassure fans? My opinion is Pinocchio!
It's quite clear from what has been said or not said officially and disturbing from the rumours that are going round, that no plan B was in place. The SOS decision was always going to be a chance event, even if we expected the decision to favour us. By not having a strong plan B he and [size=150the BOD have failed the fans miserably[/size. It seems we are in the Brown Stuff due to a lack of preparation!
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for the last 40 years whats new
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| Settle down, he'll be the last one out, the daft ha'p'orth.
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| where`s rebel rebel, this post is long overdue locking ,good job bazzo44 didn`t post on here it wouldn`t have made 1 page never mind 9.
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| speak of the devil.hehehheheheh
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I don't understand why lots of people are having a go at TRB and AL. From what i have seen, these two put their time and effort in and love the club and if every other supporter were as committed to the cause as much as TRB and AL then the club would be far better off.
To all those people who are constantly having a go at the club, you should support your club through thick and thin. You might not agree with everything that is done but you should still offer your support. If you as so called supporters are not willing to do this then the club is far better off without you.'"
i humbly apologise for any reference to BigAl or TRB i may have made in passing blaming them for all the clubs ills, i should have added they are also responsible for the global economic crisis, me not contantly getting off with the pussycat dolls, and certain WTRLFC forum fans not being able to tell irony from reality,
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Now this is getting ridiculous - don't care what people think about the club , but even if it was owned & run by Abramovic it would be a much poorer club without people like BIGAL
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al will come round, he said he maybe partly to blame. its opinions, mine, yours, all others. ive banged the drum long and hard about this bod and coach, maybe people dont like my views but ive stuck to them, il stick to them. its our club il stand by that but not the shower running it. weve had chances toput the club back where it belongs. wembley 79 we sold the team, ray batten built the side,we sold the team, topliss, we didnt invest and push on, play offs we sold the team, all this with a ground thats hardly changed in years. like most fans ive been through the bad times, huyton, fartown,donny,and folk on here say they dont need fans like me. get real cause il be there again when some of you have gone, so if people want to take their bat and ball home tough.
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| Quote ="westgate wildcat"where`s rebel rebel, this post is long overdue locking ,good job bazzo44 didn`t post on here it wouldn`t have made 1 page never mind 9.'"
why you want it locking too anti club for you
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| Quote ="chapster"i humbly apologise for any reference to BigAl or TRB i may have made in passing blaming them for all the clubs ills, i should have added they are also responsible for the global economic crisis, me not contantly getting off with the pussycat dolls, and certain WTRLFC forum fans not being able to tell irony from reality,'"
if your gonna say stuff at least have some backside to stand by it, some of you lot change your mind more than your clothes.
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| no dont want it locking just makeing a statement that rebelrebel has been quiet on this post but he locks everything that bazzo44 has an opinion on.
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| Quote ="trinfan71"1. The reason people have a go at these two in particular is because they are simply in the firing line because of the way they defend the club (rightly of wrongly). As I posted on another thread some time ago people need someone to shake a stick at when they want / need answers. The club that people are so quick to defend are the one's who put these individuals in the firing line. What we have is a couple of passionate supporters who have gone above and beyond the role of the casual supporter. As far as every supporter being committed to the cause - they are committed to the cause, but no believing in the BoD or people within the club does not make a person any less committed. If you are looking for everyone to go along with everything club has to offer at the moment then can I suggest you move to Disneyland. You will find the fairytale you are looking for there.
For argument sake can you please tell me how a club that barely survives season after with decreasing attendances would be better off without the supporters who see it differently.
The fact is we are in this position because of the Chairman and the Board of Directors. They were taken in by Pearman, there are the one's who promised that our stadium would be updated when we won our right to super league (on appeal). Three years ago they were aware that things needed to be done to either sort out Belle Vue or to move. Once again they have struggled to deliver but have never struggled to point the finger at other people when it goes wrong. It's true what they say about excuses 'They are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink.'
The frustration comes from the lack of information, whether it be good or bad. I, along with many others don't expect the club to publicly state their accounts or go into great detail, but surely there would be less doom and gloom if somebody told us what was being done to try and maintain our future not only in Super League but as a club.
Just a simple statement along the lines of 'We as a club are frustrated at the decision for the current stadium plans but please bear with us. We have a fall back plan, unfortunately we are not in a position to release details until after our shareholders meeting.'
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"if your gonna say stuff at least have some backside to stand by it, some of you lot change your mind more than your clothes.'"
My comments re the clubs position i do stand by and always will, somewhere during 2009 we got it badly wrong and we are paying for it now, newmarket or no newmarket the fans have gone and the current squad will not bring them back.
Any comments blaming trb and especially BigAl blaming them for everything you surely did not take without a pinch of salt, I dont know enough about the inside of the club to know whos to blame, but I do know enough about business modelling to know someone made a mistake in that period.
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| Quote ="chapster"but I do know enough about business modelling to know someone made a mistake in that period.'"
It makes you wonder what would have happened if Brough, Newton & Tronc had stayed. When they left, and free'd up, what, must have been 300+ grand in wages, we couldn't replace like-for-like because we didn't have the cash.
I don't think we'd have been able to pay everyone come the end of the season.
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| Quote ="chapster"My comments re the clubs position i do stand by and always will, somewhere during 2009 we got it badly wrong and we are paying for it now, newmarket or no newmarket the fans have gone and the current squad will not bring them back.
Any comments blaming trb and especially BigAl blaming them for everything you surely did not take without a pinch of salt, I dont know enough about the inside of the club to know whos to blame, but I do know enough about business modelling to know someone made a mistake in that period.'"
course i did but for gods sake but you didnt even blame anyone. personally i dont like how TRB he stands up for the club but thats his choice, but even i couldnt blame him for how poorly the club is run, but i could blame fans for standing for it
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"course i did but for gods sake but you didnt even blame anyone. personally i dont like how TRB he stands up for the club but thats his choice, but even i couldnt blame him for how poorly the club is run, but i could blame fans for standing for it'"
What's the plan then? Cos posting messages on an internet forum is hardly gonna bring down the Richardsons or get rid of Kear. What action do you think people should take?
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