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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I was waiting for someone to pick up on that.
The little guy has the heart of a lion and gives 100%. But everyone runs at him relentlessly and quins,Wigan and Shudds have all spotted him.
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your missing the point i dont think we signed sam obst as a tackling machine did we??
how can you expect him to be an attacking half back/ hooker if hes doing 40 tackles a game??
and lets face it most of the ones today were either agianst crabtree in the middle of the line in retreat when some foeward had gone to sleep????
get me a sam obst doing 20 tackles a game and ill back a great attacking player.
get me richard moore tackling then!! likes the drives hates the hard work!
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| I just made the point that I thought Obst had a poor game today when others were suggesting he had played well. I made it 3 tackles he missed that led to Huddersfield tries. No amount of effort, heart, passion, whatever you want to call it can compensate for that.
I am a big fan of Sam's by the way, just can't understand the praise from today? No-one deserved any praise today IMO.
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| How about when it looked like there was going to be a bust up between Moore and 4 Hudds players. All Wakey players just stood there, like they did most of game
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| This must be the worst performance since the London game 4-5 yrs ago, No heart No desire and more importantly No idea!.
From the minute Jd knocked on in the 1st set off 6 we were beaten the body languange was just wrong it was as if it was a last game off the season and nothing to play for!.
Until we have a plan B instead of the 5 drives and a poor kick these kind of results will be common place down at Belle Vue!
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| Quote ="adam9641"Doubt it! I don't rate Scully as it is. He does one drive and maybe an offload then goes hiding. Wish he could play like he did for Cas but doubt he ever will
As for Broughy he is a cracking player but of late been poor.
I very much doubt them 2 would have made a difference which I am happy about. Last thing we want is to be 1 man team'"
you talk shiiit at the best of times managing to make that bell end danril look like he has more than one brain cell, but that is just absolute nonsense.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I don't think we would have played any better with the two danny's playing.
Reading between the lines from Con's post I think it could be a club problem and not a player problem.But I could be way off the mark and just looking for things that are'nt there.
'" i can tell you for a fact, its not a club problem. its a certain players problem, and i am sure in time the truth will come out, and everyone else will be as disgusted as con is.
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"i can tell you for a fact, its not a club problem. its a certain players problem, and i am sure in time the truth will come out, and everyone else will be as disgusted as con is.'"
Well its up to the Coach to sort those players out and if getting rid is the answer then get rid.
For what its worth I dont think you will see Danny Sculthorpe in a Wakefield shirt again, I think he will be on his way out. I rate him as a player but if he or any other player are disrupting the spirit then they can go.
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"you talk shiiit at the best of times managing to make that bell end danril look like he has more than one brain cell, but that is just absolute nonsense.'"
Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
Scully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
Scully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.'"
indeed they do and i dont deny you yours. it's just my opinion that your opinion(s) is shiit!
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"indeed they do and i dont deny you yours. it's just my opinion that your opinion is shiit!'"
Exactly so you don't agree.
If Scully could play like he did for Cas he would be fantastic but sadly he has never done that.
He has the ability but just don't see it enough.
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| Quote ="RDM"Some excellent points.
As a team we have failed to defend positively for far too many seasons. I'm totally fed up with wactching our boys trot forward a couple of steps once the opposition have played the ball only to concede 10 or 15 metres because the other side are playing with PACE!
Too many players are able to get away with not playing well because they know that there's nobody fit enough to replace them.
Our captain doesn't seem to be capable of captaining his way out of a wet paper bag. He doesn't try to encourage the team after we've conceded a try (and it wasn't just today - he NEVER does it) and without the ball he just has his head down looking miserable. dont blame you captain when you have a JUDICE in you club and your captain has played through injury because his coach and team need him .
The only player who came anywhere near justifying his wages this week was Sam Obst.
I dread to think how many points the Crusaders will put past us next week if the same effort is shown next week.
Forget the alleged indiscrestions of Brough & Sculthorpe (and whether they have/haven't apologised) - 16 of the 17 players on the pitch today owe all Wakefield fans a public apology for such a dire performance.'"
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| Was Winterstein dropped or had he picked a knock up?
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| Quote ="W.T.W"Was Winterstein dropped or had he picked a knock up?'"
He was 18th man.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
:buxth6epScully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.[/
We (Cas) had the same thing with Korky when he came. We all thought he'd be a beaut for us, but he just didn't fit. Must be one of those 'new scene' or 'wrong face' issues I suppose.
BTW, on a serious point, do you think that Wakey can afford to loan in players to cover injuries when they are trying to loan out players to make ends meet (if that's the correct understanding of the situation I get)?
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| I was disgusted at our show, but one thing that did please me from an old wakey player point of view was how good Keith Mason looks this season. I think he is now fully mature and looking awesome, always liked him as a kid for us.
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| Absolutely garbage from start to finish, missing Big Dunc big time in the tackling department, someone who smashes legs away rather than wrestling which we did all game and let them offload at will.
For the last few seasons now we've had performances like this when the players want the coach out.
I for one urge the board to not make any knee jerk reactions regarding this or the Celtic game win or lose.
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| Worse every week
Sick of the same thing happening every year
I would say stosic and latu had a good game today, even blaymire had a bad game first tym he dropped the ball all year and he did it twice i think.
In need of new props get korki back he isnt even gettin 1st team rugby at huddersfield. He would be welcome back to belle vue.
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| Quote ="Judd Judd"Worse every week
Sick of the same thing happening every year
I would say stosic and latu had a good game today, even blaymire had a bad game first tym he dropped the ball all year and he did it twice i think.
In need of new props get korki back he isnt even gettin 1st team rugby at huddersfield. He would be welcome back to belle vue.'"
There is a reason for that. Hope we don't get him back. No better than what we have and tbh think it would me a mixed reception.
Agree on Matty though he has been safe as houses today butdropped ball quite a few times.
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| Quote ="super 10"dont blame you captain when you have a JUDICE in you club and your captain has played through injury because his coach and team need him.'"
I don't know (and to an extent don't care) what one player may or may not have done to upset someone else on the team. At the end of the day they are all paid to at least put in some effort on the pitch and there's been very little of that on show in recent weeks.
Whilst it's up to JK & Beans to get the players properly focussed before the game, it's up to the captain to keep the players focussed during the match. To me it seems that for a long time the only thing JD has been doing as captain is to toss the coin before kick off.
I have faith in the coaching team to turn things around, but it's definitely time for a new captain. JD has been a terrific servant to the club and has put his body on the line a number of times - I for one will never forget him running the ball out of our own in-goal at Odsal to help keep us in the fight for survival - but he's beginning to look like there's nothing left in the tank.
JD isn't quick enough to be in the backs & he isn't big enough to pack down with the forwards. The only thing keeping JD in the side is the fact that he's captain and I'm afraid that isn't a good enough reason to select any player in any team of any sport.
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| Quote ="RDM"I don't know (and to an extent don't care) what one player may or may not have done to upset someone else on the team. At the end of the day they are all paid to at least put in some effort on the pitch and there's been very little of that on show in recent weeks.
Whilst it's up to JK & Beans to get the players properly focussed before the game, it's up to the captain to keep the players focussed during the match. To me it seems that for a long time the only thing JD has been doing as captain is to toss the coin before kick off.
I have faith in the coaching team to turn things around, but it's definitely time for a new captain. JD has been a terrific servant to the club and has put his body on the line a number of times - I for one will never forget him running the ball out of our own in-goal at Odsal to help keep us in the fight for survival - but he's beginning to look like there's nothing left in the tank.
JD isn't quick enough to be in the backs & he isn't big enough to pack down with the forwards. The only thing keeping JD in the side is the fact that he's captain and I'm afraid that isn't a good enough reason to select any player in any team of any sport.'"
Biggest load of gash i have ever read regarding JD. Utter tripe.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Well its up to the Coach to sort those players out and if getting rid is the answer then get rid.
For what its worth I dont think you will see Danny Sculthorpe in a Wakefield shirt again, I think he will be on his way out. I rate him as a player but if he or any other player are disrupting the spirit then they can
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sounds to me like hes done something daft and served papers on the club to sue them while there in the changing rooms or something but thats only me guessing at what could have happened but by the way in which con spoke it doesnt sound good or was done too have maximum impact on the teams performance today.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash":3vlrim77:3vlrim77Bullied in the forwards:3vlrim77. No spark in attack. This is depressing stuff. Stick your money and Celtic next week!'"
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| Quote ="upthecats"Pathetic performance!
First time for years and years I've left before the hooter, but it was so bad it was untrue. There's a lot of questions need answering before next week.
All 17 players ought Ito hang their heads in shame, don't buy into Obst having a great game at all, just because he's so small and tackles bigger blokes doesn't mean he had a good game. I counted at least three tackles he missed that led to tries.
JK needs to earn his money this week big time.'"
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| Quote ="adam9641"Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
Scully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.'"
How long can you hide behind that?
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| Quote ="RDM"I don't know (and to an extent don't care) what one player may or may not have done to upset someone else on the team. At the end of the day they are all paid to at least put in some effort on the pitch and there's been very little of that on show in recent weeks.
Whilst it's up to JK & Beans to get the players properly focussed before the game, it's up to the captain to keep the players focussed during the match. To me it seems that for a long time the only thing JD has been doing as captain is to toss the coin before kick off.
I have faith in the coaching team to turn things around, but it's definitely time for a new captain. JD has been a terrific servant to the club and has put his body on the line a number of times - I for one will never forget him running the ball out of our own in-goal at Odsal to help keep us in the fight for survival - but he's beginning to look like there's nothing left in the tank.
JD isn't quick enough to be in the backs & he isn't big enough to pack down with the forwards. The only thing keeping JD in the side is the fact that he's captain and I'm afraid that isn't a good enough reason to select any player in any team of any sport.'"
I really find that amazing, i'll put it down to feeling peeeeeeed off.
True imo but thats down to busting a gut every week dragging other players around the pitch and trying to do too much, JD's not the best player and not the worst but he gives his all in that shirt.
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