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| I wonder if the club are looking at renting the pitch out for sporting events/days etc maybe like local competitions. Perhaps even local gala’s etc.
Not sure if it’s an option but I guess the club will explore many options for generating income.
I wonder if we can link in with any WMDC events to host.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Exactly! the only one I could see with any potential is Ossett (didn't town and albion merge?) but they have their own stadium don't they? I'm sure it won't be up to the upgraded BV standard, but how many of their supporters would travel to see football played (With respect) at their level? to get LU reserves back would be great and a much better option. As for Wakefield AFC - well if the people of Wakefield are as much interested in football as they are rugby - forget it.'"
The only option is Wakefield AFC and always has been, sorry but I think Ossett town has zero potential.
It all depends how serious the new owner is, a Brazilian multi-millionaire I'm told.
I believe he'd prefer a new ground just for them, but I also believe he's rapidly realising how hard that is in the UK.
A five year lease to start with is the most likely option and I think he knows it, and Wakefield rather than Featherstone is where they need to be. The main reason other that catchment area is the fact that the FA view Wakefield the city, as an expansion area and will support any start up team in such an area.
How the deal would pan out I don't know for sure, but there are two options as far as I can see.
One, they simply pay rent as a match day facility and see how they progress over five seasons and then decide what to do next.
Two, they become a partner in the ground along with Trinity and WMDC. Both would be minor shareholder and the football team would be secondary the team, no matter what league they are in. This has a fair few benefits for us, we are the landlord and will run the facility and take the lions share of none match day revenue. However Wakefield AFC will be a junior partner in BV and thus should be eligible for FA grants to improve BV. WMDC get a multi-sport facility that they can then justify supporting with ratepayers cash, everyones a winner. Whether it pans out that way is yet to be seen.
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| Quote ="vastman"The only option is Wakefield AFC and always has been, sorry but I think Ossett town has zero potential.
It all depends how serious the new owner is, a Brazilian multi-millionaire I'm told.
I believe he'd prefer a new ground just for them, but I also believe he's rapidly realising how hard that is in the UK.
A five year lease to start with is the most likely option and I think he knows it, and Wakefield rather than Featherstone is where they need to be. The main reason other that catchment area is the fact that the FA view Wakefield the city, as an expansion area and will support any start up team in such an area.
How the deal would pan out I don't know for sure, but there are two options as far as I can see.
One, they simply pay rent as a match day facility and see how they progress over five seasons and then decide what to do next.
Two, they become a partner in the ground along with Trinity and WMDC. Both would be minor shareholder and the football team would be secondary the team, no matter what league they are in. This has a fair few benefits for us, we are the landlord and will run the facility and take the lions share of none match day revenue. However Wakefield AFC will be a junior partner in BV and thus should be eligible for FA grants to improve BV. WMDC get a multi-sport facility that they can then justify supporting with ratepayers cash, everyones a winner. Whether it pans out that way is yet to be seen.'"
Does he like Rugby?
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| Whatever Wakefield FC's ambitions are, not playing on a terrible sloping pitch must be at the top of their agenda.
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| Quote ="vastman"The only option is Wakefield AFC and always has been, sorry but I think Ossett town has zero potential.
It all depends how serious the new owner is, a Brazilian multi-millionaire I'm told.
I believe he'd prefer a new ground just for them, but I also believe he's rapidly realising how hard that is in the UK.
A five year lease to start with is the most likely option and I think he knows it, and Wakefield rather than Featherstone is where they need to be. The main reason other that catchment area is the fact that the FA view Wakefield the city, as an expansion area and will support any start up team in such an area.
How the deal would pan out I don't know for sure, but there are two options as far as I can see.
One, they simply pay rent as a match day facility and see how they progress over five seasons and then decide what to do next.
Two, they become a partner in the ground along with Trinity and WMDC. Both would be minor shareholder and the football team would be secondary the team, no matter what league they are in. This has a fair few benefits for us, we are the landlord and will run the facility and take the lions share of none match day revenue. However Wakefield AFC will be a junior partner in BV and thus should be eligible for FA grants to improve BV. WMDC get a multi-sport facility that they can then justify supporting with ratepayers cash, everyones a winner. Whether it pans out that way is yet to be seen.'"
Do catch up Vasty, Ossett Town and Albion merged about 5 years ago, and was the brainchild I believe, of 3 businessmen, John Childlaw, James Rogers and Lee Summerscales. The idea behind it was to bring professional football to the Wakefield area. If that were to happen, can't see the site neat Ossett bus station being big enough
Not sure how many promotions they would need to get from where they are now, to get into the fourth tier of the football league, same for Wakefield AFC. The average crowds in the 4th tier are a little higher than what ours is now.
Also, to make the football aspect a bigger draw, what's to say down the line that Wakefield and Ossett were to merge. At the end of the day it is Wakefield & The Five Towns, we could be like Brighton & Hove Albion, ie Wakefield & Ossett United
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Does he like Rugby?
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Haha my thoughts too. How the heck do they get these investors?
What is it about Trinity - one of the oldest clubs in RL-that deters these multi millionaires investing in us? I appreciate he's a football man but you'd have thought somewhere out there was a rugby loving wealthy man with money to invest?
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Haha my thoughts too. How the heck do they get these investors?
What is it about Trinity - one of the oldest clubs in RL-that deters these multi millionaires investing in us? I appreciate he's a football man but you'd have thought somewhere out there was a rugby loving wealthy man with money to invest?'"
I do find it strange too. Wakefield Trinity has a lot of potential and could easily grow to 7-10k regular attendances with the right approach and investment in the club/stadium.
It’s also a club that can be run to a profit too which is a rarity in sport.
It’s really only the facilities holding Trinity back. If we could just get the South/West developed we would be a very attractive club indeed.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I do find it strange too. Wakefield Trinity has a lot of potential and could easily grow to 7-10k regular attendances with the right approach and investment in the club/stadium.
It’s also a club that can be run to a profit too which is a rarity in sport.
It’s really only the facilities holding Trinity back. If we could just get the South/West developed we would be a very attractive club indeed.'"
It’s not just about money, it’s about the right person, one who’s in it for the long haul.
For every Ken Davey there are a dozen sharks, wealthy but still sharks.
Once the upgrade is complete we will look a better buy no doubt. However we need to combine that with a few good seasons. It’s hard to get someone to invest when 12 month later you’ve potentially lost every penny.
Steve Parkin??? Was on the brink of buying us ten years back, a truly wealthy man. But he wanted assurances the game couldn’t give and still can’t for now at least.
Finding the magic bullet investor is not an easy task.
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| Quote ="vastman"It’s not just about money, it’s about the right person, one who’s in it for the long haul.
For every Ken Davey there are a dozen sharks, wealthy but still sharks.
Once the upgrade is complete we will look a better buy no doubt. However we need to combine that with a few good seasons. It’s hard to get someone to invest when 12 month later you’ve potentially lost every penny.
Steve Parkin??? Was on the brink of buying us ten years back, a truly wealthy man. But he wanted assurances the game couldn’t give and still can’t for now at least.
Finding the magic bullet investor is not an easy task.'"
Parkin is the name I have though about. Wanted a guarantee from the RFL about top flight status but walked when they rightly couldn't give it. Has/had a football team at a fairly decent level who needed a stadium, recently sold up at Clipper(?). Would've been nice if he had got in touch with JM as one of the owner-shareholders.
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Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Do catch up Vasty, Ossett Town and Albion merged about 5 years ago, and was the brainchild I believe, of 3 businessmen, John Childlaw, James Rogers and Lee Summerscales. The idea behind it was to bring professional football to the Wakefield area. If that were to happen, can't see the site neat Ossett bus station being big enough
Not sure how many promotions they would need to get from where they are now, to get into the fourth tier of the football league, same for Wakefield AFC. The average crowds in the 4th tier are a little higher than what ours is now.
Also, to make the football aspect a bigger draw, what's to say down the line that Wakefield and Ossett were to merge? At the end of the day, it is Wakefield & The Five Towns, we could be like Brighton & Hove Albion, ie Wakefield & Ossett United'"
Where did you get just those 3 names from EW. Tbh it's a bit of old hat what happened and it didn't last long in the end, especially the names you typed and there were a few more people who were involved at the time. Just go to for an easy read of how both clubs went down https://www.ossettutd.com/club/History/
You can put just these 3 names through companies house because it gives you a bit more reason to be nosey like me.
Chidlaw was part of both Ossett clubs for a year or two till he resigned from Town permanently and I can't see any other football-related club linked to him.
Summerscales was the director of Ossett United for about a year and a half between 2018 and 2019 resigned then a few months later became Company Director of Ossett Utd
James Rogers is the interesting one because he's had links with Ossett United, which he resigned after being there from 2018 to mid-2019, and Ossett Town where he stayed just a few months then resigned. But then in 2019 become Ossett United's company director, which he currently still is. The interesting thing about him is that he had an interest in Leeds United stretching back to 2012 with a company called Leeds United foundation where he is the director, where mail goes to Elland Road, plus a couple of other companies that could be related.
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Not sure how many promotions they would need to get from where they are now, to get into the fourth tier of the football league, same for Wakefield AFC. The average crowds in the 4th tier are a little higher than what ours is now.
Also, to make the football aspect a bigger draw, what's to say down the line that Wakefield and Ossett were to merge? At the end of the day, it is Wakefield & The Five Towns, we could be like Brighton & Hove Albion, ie Wakefield & Ossett United'"
Where did you get just those 3 names from EW. Tbh it's a bit of old hat what happened and it didn't last long in the end, especially the names you typed and there were a few more people who were involved at the time. Just go to for an easy read of how both clubs went down https://www.ossettutd.com/club/History/
You can put just these 3 names through companies house because it gives you a bit more reason to be nosey like me.
Chidlaw was part of both Ossett clubs for a year or two till he resigned from Town permanently and I can't see any other football-related club linked to him.
Summerscales was the director of Ossett United for about a year and a half between 2018 and 2019 resigned then a few months later became Company Director of Ossett Utd
James Rogers is the interesting one because he's had links with Ossett United, which he resigned after being there from 2018 to mid-2019, and Ossett Town where he stayed just a few months then resigned. But then in 2019 become Ossett United's company director, which he currently still is. The interesting thing about him is that he had an interest in Leeds United stretching back to 2012 with a company called Leeds United foundation where he is the director, where mail goes to Elland Road, plus a couple of other companies that could be related.
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Quote ="Shifty Cat"Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Do catch up Vasty, Ossett Town and Albion merged about 5 years ago, and was the brainchild I believe, of 3 businessmen, John Childlaw, James Rogers and Lee Summerscales. The idea behind it was to bring professional football to the Wakefield area. If that were to happen, can't see the site neat Ossett bus station being big enough
Not sure how many promotions they would need to get from where they are now, to get into the fourth tier of the football league, same for Wakefield AFC. The average crowds in the 4th tier are a little higher than what ours is now.
Also, to make the football aspect a bigger draw, what's to say down the line that Wakefield and Ossett were to merge? At the end of the day, it is Wakefield & The Five Towns, we could be like Brighton & Hove Albion, ie Wakefield & Ossett United'"
Where did you get just those 3 names from EW. Tbh it's a bit of old hat what happened and it didn't last long in the end, especially the names you typed and there were a few more people who were involved at the time. Just go to for an easy read of how both clubs went down https://www.ossettutd.com/club/History/
You can put just these 3 names through companies house because it gives you a bit more reason to be nosey like me.
Chidlaw was part of both Ossett clubs for a year or two till he resigned from Town permanently and I can't see any other football-related club linked to him.
Summerscales was the director of Ossett United for about a year and a half between 2018 and 2019 resigned then a few months later became Company Director of Ossett Utd
James Rogers is the interesting one because he's had links with Ossett United, which he resigned after being there from 2018 to mid-2019, and Ossett Town where he stayed just a few months then resigned. But then in 2019 become Ossett United's company director, which he currently still is. The interesting thing about him is that he had an interest in Leeds United stretching back to 2012 with a company called Leeds United foundation where he is the director, where mail goes to Elland Road, plus a couple of other companies that could be related.'"
I actually remember a conversation about it, with Mick Amos, at the time of it happening. I also know James and Lee personally.
I will be honest, I'm not the biggest football fan and haven't really followed them as much as I intended to, so haven't looked on companies house.
I was actually speaking with James a couple of days ago, and briefly mentioned this, and he said there's a lot of sense behind it, but other than asking me to send him the link about it, was very poker faced about it all.
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Not sure how many promotions they would need to get from where they are now, to get into the fourth tier of the football league, same for Wakefield AFC. The average crowds in the 4th tier are a little higher than what ours is now.
Also, to make the football aspect a bigger draw, what's to say down the line that Wakefield and Ossett were to merge? At the end of the day, it is Wakefield & The Five Towns, we could be like Brighton & Hove Albion, ie Wakefield & Ossett United'"
Where did you get just those 3 names from EW. Tbh it's a bit of old hat what happened and it didn't last long in the end, especially the names you typed and there were a few more people who were involved at the time. Just go to for an easy read of how both clubs went down https://www.ossettutd.com/club/History/
You can put just these 3 names through companies house because it gives you a bit more reason to be nosey like me.
Chidlaw was part of both Ossett clubs for a year or two till he resigned from Town permanently and I can't see any other football-related club linked to him.
Summerscales was the director of Ossett United for about a year and a half between 2018 and 2019 resigned then a few months later became Company Director of Ossett Utd
James Rogers is the interesting one because he's had links with Ossett United, which he resigned after being there from 2018 to mid-2019, and Ossett Town where he stayed just a few months then resigned. But then in 2019 become Ossett United's company director, which he currently still is. The interesting thing about him is that he had an interest in Leeds United stretching back to 2012 with a company called Leeds United foundation where he is the director, where mail goes to Elland Road, plus a couple of other companies that could be related.'"
I actually remember a conversation about it, with Mick Amos, at the time of it happening. I also know James and Lee personally.
I will be honest, I'm not the biggest football fan and haven't really followed them as much as I intended to, so haven't looked on companies house.
I was actually speaking with James a couple of days ago, and briefly mentioned this, and he said there's a lot of sense behind it, but other than asking me to send him the link about it, was very poker faced about it all.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Haha my thoughts too. How the heck do they get these investors?
What is it about Trinity - one of the oldest clubs in RL-that deters these multi millionaires investing in us? I appreciate he's a football man but you'd have thought somewhere out there was a rugby loving wealthy man with money to invest?'"
There is 1315. Sadly his initials are RMW.
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| Quote ="Redscat"There is 1315. Sadly his initials are RMW.'"
Errr,,,,,anybody else!!!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Errr,,,,,anybody else!!!'"
Struggling to think if anyone.
To some credit he did loan the club money to pay off an unpaid HMRC bill, we didn't seem to have any other takers at that point.
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| Could a future investment in a Ladies football team be a possibility. Women`s football is possibly the fastest growing supporter based sport in the UK at the moment.
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| Don't get caught up in the hysteria. If they had 1 fan last year and increased to 10, that's 1000% increase. If they still have 10 fans next year, that's consolidation....or stagnation!!
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I actually remember a conversation about it, with Mick Amos, at the time of it happening. I also know James and Lee personally.
I will be honest, I'm not the biggest football fan and haven't really followed them as much as I intended to, so haven't looked on companies house.
I was actually speaking with James a couple of days ago, and briefly mentioned this, and he said there's a lot of sense behind it, but other than asking me to send him the link about it, was very poker faced about it all.'"
Yeah neither am I, it was just when you reminded me of what happened with your post. I have a friend who knew a couple involved and memories came flooding back and remembering a bit more of it, like there were a few more people involved initially,I just wanted to know what actually happened with the idea in the end. Because I believe they started up in 2018 and did really well the following season and then Covid hit, so who knows where they'd be now.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yeah neither am I, it was just when you reminded me of what happened with your post. I have a friend who knew a couple involved and memories came flooding back and remembering a bit more of it, like there were a few more people involved initially,I just wanted to know what actually happened with the idea in the end. Because I believe they started up in 2018 and did really well the following season and then Covid hit, so who knows where they'd be now.'"
I think you've hit the nail on the head, regarding covid.
They're currently in the lower half of the league, but with a couple of games in hand I believe. They did though have a good result on the road though yesterday, at a team near the top.
It would take quite a bit of success though, on and off the pitch to get into that fourth tier.
I think the structure is something like this
Premier
Championship
League 1
League 2
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NPL
NPL Division One (East)
I think that is right, but happy to be corrected if I'm wrong
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I think you've hit the nail on the head, regarding covid.
They're currently in the lower half of the league, but with a couple of games in hand I believe. They did though have a good result on the road though yesterday, at a team near the top.
It would take quite a bit of success though, on and off the pitch to get into that fourth tier.
I think the structure is something like this
Premier
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League 1
League 2
National League
=#FF0000National League North & South
NPL
NPL Division One (East)
I think that is right, but happy to be corrected if I'm wrong'"
In between the National League and NPL, there is National League North & South.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"In between the National League and NPL, there is National League North & South.'"
So which leagues are Ossett and Wakefield AFC , I know trinity AFC Ladies used to be Trinity ladies
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| Quote ="djcool"So which leagues are Ossett and Wakefield AFC , I know trinity AFC Ladies used to be Trinity ladies'"
Why not google it,,,,???
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| Quote ="djcool"So which leagues are Ossett and Wakefield AFC , I know trinity AFC Ladies used to be Trinity ladies'"
Ossett are in the NPL east. Wakefield AFC are in a league even further down the ladder than the ones listed. Wakefield AFC have at least another three or four promotions to go until their profile will start to reach a size close to befitting the size of the city imo. It's positive though that they already seem to have a half decent sized fan base to say where they are in the league pyramid. A bit of success over the next three or four years and a couple promotions and things should start taking off if they are marketed correctly.
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| I think people are missing the point here.
The difference between Wakefield AFC and Ossett Town, is that one already has a ground within the boundaries of the area it represents. The other Wakefield AFC is currently nomadic and is playing in Featherstone and not Wakefield the City, as opposed to the MDC.
Although technically Wakefield AFC can call themselves Wakefield, they are not actually playing within the city boundaries. For their ambitions to work, they must imho move into Wakefield proper. Problem is that there is no land available and even if there were building a stadium would take years. I suppose they could move in with Sandal RU but really BV is the only sensible option IMHO.
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