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| Chesters interview reminded me of a bit of Websters after we lost to Leigh in the cup. He parted company after that game, will we see the same again? Has Carter got the balls to get rid of his mate if he doesn’t resign?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I know that you are usually the voice of reason PT but, I think that now is a time for honesty.
Chester, for all of the great work that he's done since he joined Trinity, is now in the same position as Tony Smith (Casper) of a few seasons ago.
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Yes, the bounce of the ball went against us but, our defence was bloody pitiful.
Chester desperately needs some help or, needs to be replaced and quickly. The guy looks broken.'"
I get what you are saying but I still see something in Chester. I think some are blinded by the results but I think the interview with Fifita and the players response second half shows they are in it together.
I don't see Chester and Smith as the same because Smith could never do it. Chester has shown great success with the team and developing players.
The difference is for me that I want to see us battle it out rather than throw the towel in. It's not like we are going to get a top Aussie coach in to rescue us and to be honest they don't do well at the lower clubs anyway.
Like has been said, Chester is clearly upset which shows he really wants it. I want to give him chance.
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| Do we have to have BOJ042 on here? Things are bad enough without him
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Do we have to have BOJ042 on here? Things are bad enough without him'"
you guys banned a while FOR AROUND THE 4TH TIME but I am back for now - I expect a banning AGAIN soon
FOR SAYING THE TRUTH!!
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| The problem is that I now believe Chester does not know how to get out of this, if he did we would at least be showing some improvement.
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| We have over two weeks before we play again so if any changes are made it needs to be now.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Chesters interview reminded me of a bit of Websters after we lost to Leigh in the cup. He parted company after that game, will we see the same again? Has Carter got the balls to get rid of his mate if he doesn’t resign?'"
Something has to change and soon otherwise a lot of peo0les hard work will go down the drain
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| Quote ="PopTart"I get what you are saying but I still see something in Chester. I think some are blinded by the results but I think the interview with Fifita and the players response second half shows they are in it together.
I don't see Chester and Smith as the same because Smith could never do it. Chester has shown great success with the team and developing players.
The difference is for me that I want to see us battle it out rather than throw the towel in. It's not like we are going to get a top Aussie coach in to rescue us and to be honest they don't do well at the lower clubs anyway.
Like has been said, Chester is clearly upset which shows he really wants it. I want to give him chance.'"
Chester without experienced help is imo out of his depth. If he is to continue then an experienced assistant needs to be appointed sharpish. Oh and Brough and BJB need dropping
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| Quote ="PopTart"He can't have lost the dressing room if they lift after the half time talk.
I've drowned my sorrows and I'm over it now.
Let's just fight on and get a win somewhere.'"
Did they lift or did Wigan step off the gas ? I’d say In my honest opinion the latter and you see it all the time in games .We went in at half time at Cas in with a shout and imploded second half .Chester has had 10 games to sort these embarrassments of players out and has failed miserably, needs to fall on his sword ASAP to give us a fighting chance to rescue our once proud club .
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| Wigan stepped off the gas. I went in the hope of seeing a better effort from the team but most of the time they don’t even look like a team. I get they must be down in confidence after this appalling run but some of the attempts at tackling were embarrassing last night. It’s as though the injury crisis has taken the fight out of them as early in the season we could come back. Surely the motivation should be there as they are staring down the barrel of losing their job at the end of the season. How Pauli Pauli is picked every week is beyond me. I’d be happy not to see him in a Wakey shirt again. Hopefully the two weeks off will give the players chance to regroup.
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| How long does mc leave it to make a change? This a critical ,we are facing what could be the end of wakefield trinity and no give time crap ,injuries bollox ,were in deep sh#t
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| I've just read on twitter somebody saying that MC refused to accept Chester's resignation. Not sure how true it is, but one thing is for sure (as others have said) something has to give. One thing is for sure, if we do go down the money in championship won't pay the council loan for Belle Vue back.
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| Quote ="BOJ042"you guys banned a while FOR AROUND THE 4TH TIME but I am back for now - I expect a banning AGAIN soon
For talking sheite'"
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| I'm puzzled by CC's team selection at times but I feel for the bloke. He doesn't go from being a good coach to a bad coach in a matter of weeks! The players have let him (and us) down.
He can coach all he wants, but his coaching ends when the players run on the pitch. If some of them can't be bothered, then we're doomed from the start.
If it's not that, then the team needs changing. Hampshire and/or Wood to the halves for a start.
As far as the forwards go then we're struggling. No Huby, England not what he was, Arona out for season, Ashurst out for season, Pauli disappoints. The only true SL quality props we have are Fifita and Kopczak.
It really is a crocked tream from the one we had such aspirations for!
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| Quote ="cosmicat"How long does mc leave it to make a change? This a critical ,we are facing what could be the end of wakefield trinity and no give time crap ,injuries bollox ,were in deep sh#t'"
With just six games to play, this time there is no John Kear waiting in the wings, I think we have run out of time for making a coach change therefore we all have to back everyone at the club. No one is enjoying the ride at this time, but now is the time to stick together.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The problem is that I now believe Chester does not know how to get out of this, if he did we would at least be showing some improvement.'"
I reached the same conclusion after seeing his interview last night.
Nobody can deny that the guy is trying and that he wants to turn things round but, I really dont think that he can.
At this point in time, it looks like we will limp along till the end of the season and we just have to hope that we avoid 12th spot.
Wigan are no mugs but, they were massively depleted last night (way more than us) and yet they completely outplayed and out enthused us in the first 40.
Ok we "won" the second half but, lets not kid ourselves that this was anything more than Wigan having put the cue on the rack.
We look "broken" all over the park. No trust between the players that those outside or inside will do their job, which is leaving gaps all over the place, which Wigan were able to exploit.
Let's hope that the last game of the season isn't a relegation decider.
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| What I cannot understand is how disorganised our defence seems to be - we spend all week training with full time coaches, yet within minutes of the game starting we conceded simple numbering up and man on man tackles - whatever version of defence we are trying to play the players seem incapable of operating it. I genuinely fear the St. Helens result they could set a new record. Apart from perhaps giving Hampshire a run at half back or keeping crowther in team can’t really see what else he could have done, don’t see either of those players making much of any difference to the outcome - crowther would have made more tackles than Pauli but then again offers nothing in attack especially in our own 25 , Hampshire v miller might have been a slight improvement. Personally think we need to get a defensive coach in on whatever basis
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| Do what Wigan did. Play some of our 19s. Can they be any worse than the spineless specimens wearing the Trinity shirt?
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly" . Apart from perhaps giving Hampshire a run at half back '"
I think you underestimate the significance of that move. Miller needs a chance to run with Hampshire. Absolutely nothing to lose trying it v Saints.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I think you underestimate the significance of that move. Miller needs a chance to run with Hampshire. Absolutely nothing to lose trying it v Saints.'"
Agreed. Not sure what Brough offers these days and Miller is certainly a lot worse playing alongside Brough who seems to take all the ball
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| I think I agree about half back but that's assuming the cause is Brough. I think Miller needs help rather than dropping and I don't think Brough is that guy.
Fifita made a point about saying training was good and he thought they had it sorted but then it fell apart on the field.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Agreed. Not sure what Brough offers these days and Miller is certainly a lot worse playing alongside Brough who seems to take all the ball'"
Brough has offered nothing since coming back from injury and Miller not much more, Hampshire on the other hand despite all the criticism by some on here and the way he's been treated by the club still shows the right attitude and the will to win and has been up there week in week out as a candidate for mom.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Brough has offered nothing since coming back from injury and Miller not much more, Hampshire on the other hand despite all the criticism by some on here and the way he's been treated by the club still shows the right attitude and the will to win and has been up there week in week out as a candidate for mom.'"
Agreed look who was the nearest to chasing gildart back when he went the length and Hampshire had to come from the other wing. I think Miller could be better though if he weren’t playing alongside Brough
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Agreed look who was the nearest to chasing gildart back when he went the length and Hampshire had to come from the other wing. I think Miller could be better though if he weren’t playing alongside Brough'"
How about trying Hampshire and Wood at HB?
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| Quote ="PopTart"He can't have lost the dressing room if they lift after the half time talk.
I've drowned my sorrows and I'm over it now.
Let's just fight on and get a win somewhere.'"
Sorry but I can't be having this, well we played better in the 2nd half crap!! We were 34-0 down for God's sake! What is the actual point of showing more when a game is lost? Apart from points difference, unless you actually go on to win the game, it actually makes things worse. You do realise part of it is down to the opposition as well?! As you could see how 'happy' they were when we scored, it's like they are just messing about in the park with a bit of touch and pass. If i'd have been Fifita when Jowitt scored, I wouldn't have smiled, i'd have frowned and shook my head at the ridiculousness of it all......
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