Got a feeling Grix at fullback Jowitt on the wing

And we've got Thaler as ref. Is that the first time this season?

cc talks a good job theres noway he will drop Grix

I think Grix should be rested as he has looked tired recently.
He has not been good at organising tbe defence and rarely
does he contribute to the attack.
Personally I think his own lack of form has rubbed of on the team as he has been a leader this season.
This is no critcism of him as he has earned a rest.
I think the harder grounds will be to the benefit of Jowitt and we could do with his enthusiasm to make the breaks that will help to restore the confidence that was sadly lacking last week.
We are fortunate to now have a decent squad that we should use to keep players fresh.

Harder grounds?!


It's persisting it down here.

Tyler Randall not in the 19 why ?

Well for one, perhaps that the rumours that he has arrived were just speculation.

However if he is here then CC will have had a look at him in training and come to the conclusion he isn't ready

Burrow makes his return for Leeds and Garbutt returns after missing last week

Expecting this...

Golding
Briscoe
Watkins
Sutcliffe
Hall
McGuire
Moon
Cuthbertson
Parcell
Singleton
Ablett
Ward
JJB

Mullally
Garbutt
Delaney
Burrow

Keinhorst & Lilley to miss out

I don't have a good feeling about this one - they looked on fire in their last game, and we looked hapless; I hope I'm wrong.

You get the feeling that we will either be 50 points in the wrong direction or, grind out a narrow win
If we have the same calamities that we did against Shudds, Leeds will destroy us but, IF there is the positive reaction that you would expect, then, maybe it wont be a walkover.
Dropping MCB (assuming that he's not injured) has taken away our most potent attacking threat.
There is nobody in the Leeds team (or any other) that will stop him if he gets in space.

Yep you feel it could be a 1 point Trinity win or a 40 points Leeds win.

The Bookies think Leeds by 10.

Its a great feeling not having to worry about the effects of a loss against say a very good Hull KR or London in the middle 8`s. Thank goodness we are concerning ourselves with how our budget team of triers will fair against one of the form sides in the competition

So they are just a team of budget triers now are they - just for once belly give it a rest and stop letting the players off the hook.

A few weeks ago you were singing them to the heavens, show some integrity.

There is no reason why this squad shouldn't win a fair few games in the 8's they are more than good enough and you know it.

The problems deeper than that. We have produced a series of decent teams since 2004 yet everyone has bottled it. The last team that didn't was the 2004 team. I'd never bet against us in a relegation decider but to win a competitive prize winning game I wouldn't risk 50p.

Of course it's partly down to the players but there is also something wrong with the fabric of the club IMHO. Whatever it is it's deeper than the individual.

In all my time only McNally has managed to unlock the potential and that was only for one season. He's vilified now but maybe he spotted the real problem and was hounded out for his troubles, makes you wonder.

Why don't you read his post properly before trying to be controversial, he did not call them a team of budget triers, what he called them was a budget team of triers which is what they are as well you know, a team put together on a tight budget and well under the salary cap.
I'm sure he knows full well what they're capable of, all he is guilty of is comparing not being under the pressure of fighting for our lives in the m8s and wondering how we'll compare against a form team, show some integrity Jesus

We do have some good players Vasty, but you have to admit that pre season many if not all experienced professional pundits had us down to finish 11th or 12th, there are reasons for professional pundits coming to that conclusion, mainly they compared squads and we looked the weakest on paper. What our team has achieved in finishing fifth is brilliant, I am not sure what you mean by me needing to show some integrity : I also felt that our squad would finish 11th or 12th I have praised them for totally blowing that prediction out of the water. They are the lowest cost squad in the division and I for one will not be slagging them off like you for what they have achieved. It has been a fantastic season so far. They may well lose all 7 super 8 matches , they may win a few who knows. I am not sure I agree with you re the fabric of the club, I do think that we do need a strong leader on the pitch and I dont think Kirmond is the man to provide that, he seems to be a good leader off the field, I am not sure if we have an on field leader in the squad, maybe our new Aussie is the man. Relax a bit Vasty and enjoy the 8`s , if we win a game great.

Not in the country yet, should hopefully be here by the weekend.

I agree about the leadership Belly.
I like Kirmond but we need someone of the next level.

Not gonna get anywhere if we don't look improve the top eight record.

You make some good, valid points, although someone like you who's not shy in coming forward with your opinions, i'm surprised you haven't given your own personal reasons as to why we normally bottle it as you put it??! To say it's within the fabric of the club is a bit vague and ambiguous is it not?! 2004 was quite some time ago now, not sure anyone would be left from around that time, although I don't know for sure. Much as it was very poor against Hudds, it's only the first game, we may just win a few you never know, i'm certainly not writing them off just yet. It would be interesting to hear what people would consider to be a 'successful' season then? Considering we've acquired more points than last season already, and kind of like the point I think belly was making, it's only 2 years ago we were staring into the abyss......

Unfortunately you're this forums protected speccies so I'm no longer allowed to answer you back. Your free to say what you want I'm not. Enjoy your time in the sun old man. In the meantime I'll enjoy my little battle with my old mate Belly.

Yes shock horror we know each other and we are just having a bit of fun.

Don't know as much as you think do you, i actually feel a bit sorry for you - are you lonely?

The only thing your not allowed to do on here is that what you do best, and that's insult people, perhaps if you acted in an appropriate adult manner and stopped going off on one every time somebody disagreed with you and actually admitted to yourself that other people have a right to an opinion, who knows you might not be as emotionally challenged, I'll ignore your insult btw.

Sorry button but vastman and fun in the same breath nah, I know quite a bit on pop music as it appens, you need to save your sympathy for yourself squire it's you what comes across as a sad lonely person.

If you want to continue with your petty childish squabble please do it by PM it will save you further embarrassment, and keep me out of trouble.

Although not ideal, it might be a good option. Grix gets out of the way and leaves it to Jowitt to move across when McGuire puts up the bombs.

I think Bill will be on the wing for his strength against Leeds wingers and Joe at centre

I was thinking the same, he had belting game on the wing away at Wigan which I think was the last time he played there.

Great idea.
PM each other about your personal issues and leave the forum open to Rugby talk.