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| Yes he's had injuries this year but when fit the bloke is all class and i'm not sure we can find anyone of suitable quality within our budget to replace him. Lauitiiti hasn't played many more games than him over the 3 years they have both been here yet everybody was wetting themselves on here when we signed him in on a deal to take him til he's 37. Why? Because he has the x factor. So does Collis. I'd rather we kept him unless there is a major rabbit to be pulled out of the hat to replace him.
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| I hope Carter rejects any bids from Cas/Leeds/Huddersfield because I am sick to death of us selling/letting go our players to our rivals. As for Collis' injuries half the squad last year kept picking up hamstring injuries.
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| He has actually only played 9 less games over three years than Ali, so I would suggest he is not yet a lost cause
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| Would be interested to know what hes paid . My theory is any overseas player that earns an extended contract usually is a decent earner after the original contract. If we could get a fee would Let him go as think could replace.
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| Quote ="supercat"Would be interested to know what hes paid . My theory is any overseas player that earns an extended contract usually is a decent earner after the original contract. If we could get a fee would Let him go as think could replace.'"
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| Cas have history of signing injury prone centres who on thief day are fantastic - jake Webster.
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| Someone on another thread has mentioned that Murphy is OOC this year?
If it could happen, would people see him back or keep Collis?
As for contract extensions, Collis was given one at the same time as Tim Smith and Kirmond, to stop clubs getting our players on the cheap when we were in the mire.
Ali's has been given to him when his current one is going to expire, so comparing the two contracts is a bit off the mark.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Cas have history of signing injury prone centres who on thief day are fantastic - jake Webster.'"
"Thief Day"? Is this a Cas thing?
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| Dean collis not going to cas, end of rumour
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Who with ?'"
Hes an overseas player and didnt set the world on fire in the nrl before coming here. Loads of Fringe players overseas who would be equally as good and may play more games.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Someone on another thread has mentioned that Murphy is OOC this year?
If it could happen, would people see him back or keep Collis?
As for contract extensions, Collis was given one at the same time as Tim Smith and Kirmond, to stop clubs getting our players on the cheap when we were in the mire.
Ali's has been given to him when his current one is going to expire, so comparing the two contracts is a bit off the mark.'"
It wasn't a discussion about comparing contracts it was one about comparing injury records. And over the 3 years they have been here they aren't that dis-similar yet nobody was calling for Ali to be released. Collis has had one bad season, in the previous two he didn't miss too many.
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| If true, makes the sale of Walshaw even more bizarre.
Would love to see Murphy back. Could do a great job for us at centre or full back.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Why malicious?'"
Potentially Malicious i.e. possible mischievous gossip on the Cas forum inferring they can cherry pick amongst the lower clubs for their 'better players'.
Hope its wrong and he plays over 20 games next season for WTW as he's done previously. On his day he's class but he just needs a quallity centre to play alongside for us to have more impact outwide.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"He will be on a fortune. If cas want him and we get a better cheaper replacement, that would be great business. Big if though!'"
True Mable regarding on a fortune,when Collis,Kirmo,Ali and Anderson were out injured ,it was a 1/3 of our salary cap on the sidelines.Class act though,hope we have the luxury of keeping him.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Potentially Malicious i.e. possible mischievous gossip on the Cas forum inferring they can cherry pick amongst the lower clubs for their 'better players'.
Hope its wrong and he plays over 20 games next season for WTW as he's done previously. On his day he's class but he just needs a quallity centre to play alongside for us to have more impact outwide.'"
wow I think you are reading way too much into this, its a totally unsupported rumour and you think Cas fans are saying we can sign anyone we want from anyone who was below us in the table ?. its a rumour end of I think and a poor one at that.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Potentially Malicious i.e. possible mischievous gossip on the Cas forum inferring they can cherry pick amongst the lower clubs for their 'better players'.
Hope its wrong and he plays over 20 games next season for WTW as he's done previously. [uOn his day he's class but he just needs a quallity centre to play alongside for us to have more impact outwide[/u.'"
He is the centre - did you mean quality winger?
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"True Mable regarding on a fortune,when Collis,Kirmo,Ali and Anderson were out injured ,it was a 1/3 of our salary cap on the sidelines.Class act though,hope we have the luxury of keeping him.'"
£137,500 each a year?
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| It was of our salary budget, not the league salary cap. And I'm sure there was another player included but can't remember who
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| Quote ="Daddycool"It was of our salary budget, not the league salary cap. And I'm sure there was another player included but can't remember who'"
I remember against Hudds at their place we had Tautai out as well as Kirmo, Collis Ali & Lyne but Anderson played.
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| I made the comment after the leeds game, cos Waldorf and stadler were prattling on about how many were missing for leeds
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I made the comment after the leeds game, cos Waldorf and stadler were prattling on about how many were missing for leeds'"
Standard operating procedure - they make excuses for the favoured clubs whilst totally refusing to acknowledge that others have exactly the same problems, but exacerbated by their smaller squads.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"It was of our salary budget, not the league salary cap. And I'm sure there was another player included but can't remember who'"
Ah that makes more sence.
5 players taking up a third of your wage bill for around 25 players is not so strange.
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| It certainly points out the risk of running with a smaller squad next year. Injuries and suspensions will happen and the smaller but higher paid the squad the likelihood of that percentage situation arising more often increases.
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| which is all they can do if the people of wakefield are not prepared to support the club by buying season tickets etc
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