I liked him at centre - not impressed at fb; he appears to be unwilling to put his body on the line and his positional play when defending is awful.

I wonder if those people bagging Mathers will now have more appreciation of his qualities?

Not the best analogy really. I'd rather be comparing ok versus brilliant rather than not as good as people think versus very poor indeed.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king!

There is your answer Bren
Once people make up their minds about players that is it.
Sat year on year in the east stand near a guy who constantly bagged Billy Conway.
Billy could make ten blistering breaks from dummy half , top the tackle count and this guy would always home in on one tackle Billy may of missed or one wayward pass.
We all moved seats eventually.
My son went to sit in the stand recently and the guy was still there.
You've guessed it His latest target was Mathers.

That's amazing. I have never heard anyone bagging Billy Conway.
As you say, some people just make up their mind and see nothing else.

Saying that, I think the stint on the side may have done Mathers some good. He clearly has holes in his game, but when compared to someone else it suddenly becomes obvious what his good skills are.

Last year I was 50/50 with Mathers he wasn't consistent enough, this year he has been playing really well.

Indeed, the problem is knowing who has the one eye.

Must say I'm baffled by Smith poor showing as I was hoping he was the obvious answer when Mathers has one of his bad spells - he clearly isn't.

My big problem with Mathers is not how good or bad he is, that's just opinion. However I shouldn't think any sane person thinks he's so good that he can't be challenged - surely no one is that one eyed. Problem is Smith isn't the answer nor I fear is Sykes which in my very humble one eyed opinion

leaves us very vulnerable in what is a key position.

Agree, a much better season from him so far.

We are all one eyed at times but at least I don't wear an eye patch on mine.

Really

about five seasons ago a was stood by someone in the north stand that constantly whinging throughout the game,
by the end of the first half I turned round and just let rip into him for his negativity about the club and questioned his sanity as we was leading in the game.

for the rest of the game there was peace and quite from him and plenty of thank yous for shutting him up from fans around

You only have one eye anyway captain

Probably and thats on its way out.

It seems some are happy with Smiths performance at full back on friday and previous games but don't seem to be able to offer any debate on it.

Maybe that tells its own story.

Naughty Dickie

last time i posted in reply to trb it was in full agreement ,im afraid in my opinion hes way off the mark praising his bravery,self preservation is his forte and no one will convince different ,people for vastmans sake ive got to say in my opinion ,wishing for his return might not get what they hope for, but then ive so much negativity in me,touble is i see so much negativity wish i didnt

Stop being so negative

its all rosey in the garden and all Wakey players should be praised at all times.


Play the game man.

sorry el rey,.i forgot

You need a "post it note" on you're PC or phone, it'll help, just write "positive" on it or "blinkered" will do.

must say positive things about our team and players ,positive, posotive

Write underneath a short reminder to be less cynical about your fellow fans; you too Al.

I am trying.

Have to admit i'd hope Smith would of gone better at fullback than he has, so much so i'm looking forward to getting Mathers back and i never thought i'd say that. Mathers is decent, no better no worse, but what has been proved is he is the best option we have got at present by a long chalk.

Give you this much Mopsey, you're better than you used to be

For me, Mathers isn't perfect but is good enough at full back.
The thing I'm disappointed with is Smith's form when he was moved as I thought he was better than that. And as I said before I thought he might have moved to SO as I'm losing faith in Sykes.

So FB is well covered if not perfectly, as BC could always move there but stand off is the big hole. One of Sykes, Lee Smith or Wood need to improve form or we need someone else. Wood gets a second chance for me being younger, and a recent change to the role.

But just to be clear, the one eyes man comment refers to Mathers being less than perfect but when all other options seem to be worse, he is still king

Not a dig at the one eyes fans......they pay their money and can dress as a pirate if they wish.