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| Quote ="El Rey"Mate you do realise that more Hull fans will vote on this than Wakey fans.'"
dont worry there to busy booking grand final tickets
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"dont worry there to busy booking grand final tickets
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The bitter ones won't, they can't get over it, oh and good luck in the final.
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| Should add Jimmy to the list of GET RID OF !!!!
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| Quote ="The Clan"I voted:
This thread is ridiculous, premature, I'll informed, potentially damaging, misguided and a bit stupid!'"
Not sure why it's ill informed. I'm not claiming to know much about RL and never have done but most people can see how and what Agar did at Hull and they can see the way things are going under him at Wakey. Yes it's early to start getting on his case but there was massive evidence at Hull that the guy wasn't up to it and I've seen nothing yet at Wakey that suggests he is doing any better. Maybe you could inform those of us not informed enough exactly why we should be feeling positive about Mr Agar?
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| To be fair, whether you like this poll or not and think it's stupid. Everyone's allowed to debate and put their thoughts forward on a fans forum.
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| Agar is on a 3 year contract. WTW have played some good rugby until recently.
He should be given another 6 games to turn it around and show what coaching ability he has got regardless of Hull FC fans input, that was a different set up.
If the poor performances (not necessarily wins) continue after the end of this period then he must go.
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| I just want to know what has happened in the dressing room/training pitch since the Catalan game - whether Agar is the problem or whether it's someone/something else. Up until then I was going home happy even when the team had lost because they were all trying to win (and yes, there are serious issues with defence and kicking, but the players were up for it). London and Cas games the players heads were down and they didn't seem to want the win - it was like last season all over again. something or someone has caused that and it needs to be fixed - and it might not be Agar.
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| One thing to remember, a lot of this seasons squad are Elstons signings, not the coaches. I'm pretty certain that Agar would have swapped one or two of Jimmys signings for a couple of big nasty props, look at the size of the pack Hull had under him, O'Meley, Fitzgibbon, Radford, Moa, Lauaki, Manu etc. Amor, Raleigh and Wilkes have done a half decent job but none of them are really aggressive players. Because of this we have to try and adapt a different approach to games and work towards what we think are our strengths, OK it's not worked out very well the last two games but to be calling for the coaches head is a complete knee jerk reaction. Theplayers are behind Richard Agar and hopefully tomorrow we should see some renewed energy and enthusiasm, I for one am looking forward to seeing Liam Kaye tomorrow, baptism of fire and all that but what a way to make your debut!
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| You could have the worst coach going, but if the players respect him and play for him and try their best then you will do ok. At 1st this happened and we were competitive in games, 2 games down the line and its turned on its head or it appears so.Tommorows game can be written off imo and even if we lost by 70 then i dont think id personally be too unhappy considering the situation. But in a months time if things dont change for the better on the field then the club will be heading back to square one. Even if we got a new stadium all this talk about people wanting to sign for us is a complete myth if the team on the field isnt competitive.
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| I know it's nothing to do with me, but I find the posts by theboyem and bigal ver, very intriguing. To suggest that there is something that would make fans more understanding of agars appointment/position etc is something I would Love to see either or both elaborate on. Any chance you two?
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| I have no idea, i was replying to a post from the clan who stated that it was ill informed to criticise performances, so you best ask him. I'm just a mere fan and too far away from the top table to be privvy to that kind of privileged info. So they'll just have to put up with me calling it crap because thats what it looks like to me!
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| Agar total garbage at hull hes been given brass kear never had and after 8 rounds done jack all for us . Agar out.The clan uses the typical excuse time to gel ; how many london players are new this year ? = many ! They beat us 36-0! Come on hes had 5 month to make us gel. Hes not good enough !
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| How many more games do we have to listen to mr agar keep saying we need time to gel. The guy picks the same team week in week out because they are his favourites its not about that he needs to change the team around more to find the correct squad not stick with something that is clearly not working. He has no option but to mix it for todays game. And try not to play the lads out of position
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| I wonder if he can be demoted? Would it be worth giving him to the end of season and then if no improvement bringing in someone like noble and keeping Richard as his assistant.
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| Quote ="supercat"I wonder if he can be demoted? Would it be worth giving him to the end of season and then if no improvement bringing in someone like noble and keeping Richard as his assistant.'"
Why does this name keep coming up Noble is the last coach this club needs
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| Noble is going to Bradford...the problem is he has lost the respect of the players! There is nothing there our defence is pants our attack consists of 3 moves and the effort is appalling. How long are people going to put up with it? The Catalan game was good for the first half but we nearly gave it away in the second. I am sick of excuses and sick of his crap team selections.
It's just not good enough by agar or the players
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| Quote ="BigDog"
It's just not good enough by agar or the players'"
In my opinion its more so the players than Agar. In all fairness to the bloke some of the better signings are down to him and the poor ones someone else. For instance he did a good bit of business sending Tommy Lee to Shudds and getting Wood. Like wise our only good overseas players Collis and Aiton are also his.
I think where people have a genuine gripe are in two basic areas.
1. His technical knowledge of the game may be good but he may lack the communication skills to pass it on to the players and motivate them. I really believe if Glenn Morrison had not suffered that injury and was still captain at the club his leadership on the field would have rubbed off on to the team and Agar would be having a much better time.
2. He is frustrating the supporters by appearing too loyal to non performing players and sticking to some baffling tactics. He has probably given somethings a little more time than they deserve. However the blokes hands are tied over the Easter period due to the amount and intensity of the fixtures. I will judge the bloke on this one when I see what he selects from the available players once this period is over.
I think giving him 3 years was madness. However I also think its too early to make a decision, therefore not voting on this one yet.
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| Quote ="El Rey"I've tried to get this message across and i fully agree, unless fans get some info it won't stop rightly or wrongly.
I don't think it would do any harm, infact it could do nothing but good for AG to speak to the fans on this.
Not voting.'"
Give over, that's like Captain_Library saying he's Ollie Elima.
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| No point voting. Good or bad; it's done and that's all there is
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| Overall i don't rate him but he probably deserves the chance to prove himself for a bit longer yet. But if the same problems still persist in 6 or 7 weeks time my patience will have worn very thin. For me he's got until we play cas at the Etihad on magic weekend to show that he is improving us.
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| Well for me I was willing to give Agar the benefit knowing what his former boss is like with the husband.It does appear that Agar is running out of ideas and time lets face it we have a side that should be doing well.Good win over Widnes a good game against KR that with a bit more luck could have gone our way.A great first half v Bradford and should have been in front but rubbish second half.To come away from the KC 14 - 10 with the defending we had to do was good.Hudds game didnt let any one down.Warrington a real good go and so near so far.Catalan great first half then hung on for win.London and Cas what the heavens happened that was total rubbish.Then todays game he drops Smith and keeps John well for me Smiths been the better of the two by some way.It wont be long before the shouts for him out will gain more momentum and the non season ticket fans go do other things.
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| things were looking good up until the london game, so we have shown good potential. But it seams like in the last 3 games that no ones really that bothered any more (although i didnt go to wigan, but we cant say we didnt expect to get beat!). Somethings obviously not quite right in the changing room
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| Chill out, give him time.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In my opinion its more so the players than Agar. In all fairness to the bloke some of the better signings are down to him and the poor ones someone else. For instance he did a good bit of business sending Tommy Lee to Shudds and getting Wood. Like wise our only good overseas players Collis and Aiton are also his.
I think where people have a genuine gripe are in two basic areas.
1. His technical knowledge of the game may be good but he may lack the communication skills to pass it on to the players and motivate them. I really believe if Glenn Morrison had not suffered that injury and was still captain at the club his leadership on the field would have rubbed off on to the team and Agar would be having a much better time.
2. He is frustrating the supporters by appearing too loyal to non performing players and sticking to some baffling tactics. He has probably given somethings a little more time than they deserve. However the blokes hands are tied over the Easter period due to the amount and intensity of the fixtures. I will judge the bloke on this one when I see what he selects from the available players once this period is over.
I think giving him 3 years was madness. However I also think its too early to make a decision, therefore not voting on this one yet.'"
Excellent post imo.
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