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| Quote ="leedscat"Brad cant even get in the oxford starting line up'"
From what I've heard he's signed/signing for York
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"The sequence of fixtures maybe? Ever since the pre-kick off announcement of the quarter final team we look like it's season over and we're heading for 8th place on 22 points.
The more worrying thing for me is the marginalisation of Jowit. The Chester/Grix love thing is reminiscent of the McNally/Field blind loyalty.'"
You may be right about Grix and Jowitt, but The Field situation was totally different imho. Field was a talented young player used out of position for far to long - mcnally destroyed that kid through his own arrogance. Don't think you can accuse Chester of that tbh.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Also Vasty you mention true support.
True support does mean you stand by your club, yes I agree, it also means being true and honest too.
How can a squad look to progress, if a poor spell gets brushed aside, so to speak and believe everything is rosy with nothing to work on or look at.
I also, if you cared to read further back that I thought the turning point was 2 errors by the same player, both of which led to tries. These were tired looking errors by a player that looks like he needs a break. Thats not a comment by someone slating, that is constructive criticism.
We have a young hooker who hasnt featured once this year, and Grix too, has come in for recent criticism. Again, his younger understudy has hardly been given a chance this year'"
Imo and it's just mine your opinion changes with the wind. For crying out loud all teams have poor patches and this is ours. When you consider that we have possibly over achieved then it was due.
Problem with people like you is you love to come on here all billy big balls when it's going well - don't we all. But the minute there is a hitch you panic.
What's really amusing is the team stroke players you're now turning on have done to numerous clubs this season what hull just did to us.
Stop being a prima Donna and learns to take the punches. If we end up in the MPG then you might vhave a point. It's not impossible but let's not wish it on ourselves aye
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| Quote ="vastman"You may be right about Grix and Jowitt, but The Field situation was totally different imho. Field was a talented young player used out of position for far to long - mcnally destroyed that kid through his own arrogance. Don't think you can accuse Chester of that tbh.'"
At the end of the day though McNally couldn't see the fault in his selection and it utimatly contributed to him going down the road less than a year after that great play off run.
Rookie of the year can't get a game this year, even after his replacement is having stinkers. Even after he came in and had an outstanding game in the win at Salford! It stinks.
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| The Wood mistake was definitely the turning point but to be fair to the lad he came up to the fans at the end and held up his hands and said "My fault".
The thing is that without the mistake I think we would have beaten Hull, however you cannot put the defeat entirely down to that one error. We were still leading even after that, the "heads down" mentality of the entire team was to blame for the defeat. Hull are on fire but we had proved up to that point that we could stand toe to toe with them. There was no reason for us to think that we couldn't get back into it, but we did.
I feel sorry for Woody because he will take a lot of the blame for the defeat, but there were plenty of other culprits last night that failed to stop that one error leading to our downfall.
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| Watching the tries there were 4 missed tackles that led to the last few tries and a poor offload near the wing when chasing the game. Disappointing but as long as we learn it's still not over. Salford and Leeds losing was great for us.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"3 losses, Leeds, Salford and now Hull.
Thing to remember is they were all tough games, 2 of which were away from home. The Warrington game will be a good indicator to where we are right now and how the rest of the seadon may pan out.'"
I was referring to League games.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I was referring to League games.'"
I'd be more concerned If I was a Salford fan, they've lost their last 3 league games including losing to Saints last night despite having a sizeable lead.
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| Whilst I won't go as far as the silly Cas fan on the VT who claimed to be glad they were out of the cup, it could work in our favour that Salford have a very winnable cup semi final upcoming whilst we're just concentrating solely on the league.
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| Who the hell would blame Wood for that defeat ffsake
It was one pass in 80 minutes, the codheads scored 22 unanswered points, its a team game.
And another thing, Wood needs to make that pass every time he can because 9 times out of 10 its a score at the other end, it has its risks of course but massively worth the risk, didn't happen this time, so what, I wouldn't want to see him stuffing it up his jumper when the opportunity is quite clearly there.
So lets not bag one player for one pass in a game of a million passes, any of which could have turned to %h1t at any time, the game wasn't decided on it, the codheads look good enough for P2, it happened, get over it, move on.
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| Quote ="Fordy"The Wood mistake was definitely the turning point but to be fair to the lad he came up to the fans at the end and held up his hands and said "My fault".
The thing is that without the mistake I think we would have beaten Hull, however you cannot put the defeat entirely down to that one error. We were still leading even after that, the "heads down" mentality of the entire team was to blame for the defeat. Hull are on fire but we had proved up to that point that we could stand toe to toe with them. There was no reason for us to think that we couldn't get back into it, but we did.
I feel sorry for Woody because he will take a lot of the blame for the defeat, but there were plenty of other culprits last night that failed to stop that one error leading to our downfall.'"
The Wood pass wasn't the reason why Wakey lost the game. Hulls momentum had changed with the triple substitution moments earlier and it would be wrong to point the finger at Wood.
Very impressed with your performance until the final quarter when you appeared to tire. One of the best that we have seen at KCOM this year. Get a few bodies back in the pack and you can look forward to the super 8's and a few more big scalps I reckon.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"If that is the case then I think is a poor call to do that just, like with loaning Ant Walker out.
We also have a quota player, who, according to his CV and his reputation when he came over, can play in that position too.'"
You'll have to blame me for that. It's what accountants do when they are attempting to balance the books
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| Quote ="Daddycool"You'll have to blame me for that. It's what accountants do when they are attempting to balance the books'"
Is that in relation to the first or second sentence?
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| If that was the reason then I do apologise there
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| Let's all join the Labour Party and then we can call a 40-18 defeat a win and move on from there.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"If that was the reason then I do apologise there'"
No need to apologise. I'm just telling you who was to blame.
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| I have no issue with balancing the books especially with the squad we have got for the cap spend. Injuries are part and parcel of the game and it's just unfortunate we have picked up a number to key players at the same time.
the significant improvement in how our club is perceived in the wider game is all due to mc and cb making some tough decisions early in their tenure and maintaining stability once the ship was brought back to an even keel
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| Hang on in there. I know its disappointing to lose a game but the bigger picture says that you are a club on the rise. Chris Chester is obviously doing a great job along side John Kear and in Michael Carter you've got your version of our Adam Pearson. They're both men who know what they want and they also know how to go about getting there. I've been more than impressed with you this season and lets hope its the start of a long stay near the top of the tree for you.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Hang on in there. I know its disappointing to lose a game but the bigger picture says that you are a club on the rise. Chris Chester is obviously doing a great job along side John Kear and in Michael Carter you've got your version of our Adam Pearson. They're both men who know what they want and they also know how to go about getting there. I've been more than impressed with you this season and lets hope its the start of a long stay near the top of the tree for you.'"
I certainly hope so (providing we stop being messed about by developers and the council).
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| Quote ="Fordy"The Wood mistake was definitely the turning point but to be fair to the lad he came up to the fans at the end and held up his hands and said "My fault".
The thing is that without the mistake I think we would have beaten Hull, however you cannot put the defeat entirely down to that one error. We were still leading even after that, the "heads down" mentality of the entire team was to blame for the defeat. Hull are on fire but we had proved up to that point that we could stand toe to toe with them. There was no reason for us to think that we couldn't get back into it, but we did.
I feel sorry for Woody because he will take a lot of the blame for the defeat, but there were plenty of other culprits last night that failed to stop that one error leading to our downfall.'"
As a Hull fans the pass that Wood threw out and was intercepted was the major turning point, up until then the game plan of Chesters was working. After Hull re took the lead and time running down Wakefield then had to open up more which ultimately gave Hull their opportunity to up the speed and tempo which for me is the main reason we posted 22 unanswered points.
Whilst Wood can not and shouldn't be blamed for the result it was the defining momnet in the game. As a Hull fans thats seen good bad and sheer terrible times supporting Hull FC I feel the disappointed you guys must feel. However just look at where you are in relation to the so called big hitters of SL and enjoy the terrific season you are having and look forward to continually improving.
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| It's madness to focus on the Woods pass. What changed things was the team's mind set and how they dealt with that setback, which of course happens in games.
If they could have seen that that blip was just that, a blip, and the thing to focus on was the way you had come back into the game, started to dominate , went into the lead then opened up that lead then the blip would not have effected you any more than you extending your lead effected us. Super League is such a mind game when it's close. Self belief is such a massive thing. Show a weakness in that area as we have 3 times and you can be conceding 40 to 50 points very easily.
So don't be too down on a run of 3 defeats. Have confidence in what has taken you to where you are today. It isn't an accident, you are a very good team even with key players out as you showed again last Friday at the KCom.
It's difficult to come to terms with actually "being a good side" when for quite a while you've been mediocre like us. But you should embrace it, trust the table and know your team will start getting the wins again.
Your off patch has already started to change with your performance against us. That alone will be a confidence builder.
It's great to see a truly exceptional side of the 60s 're-emerge.
Your in good hands with your chairman, and coaching team. Start to enjoy it rather than waiting for the fall. Though I know it's difficult for you , we are Hull FC and we've lived it too.
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| Christ - why all the eulogies from opposition fans - are we facing relegation?!
We've lost a few games - most recently to the 2nd place team who on form, are virtually unplayable; are we emanating such levels of self pity that we need words of comfort?!
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| Bring on Saturday!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Christ - why all the eulogies from opposition fans - are we facing relegation?!
We've lost a few games - most recently to the 2nd place team who on form, are virtually unplayable; are we emanating such levels of self pity that we need words of comfort?!'"
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