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| Quote ="snowie"Chessie could learn from the programme I watched last night in which Brian Clough said at a time when his forest team wasn't playing well that the players feed off on how he management react, when he commented in front of the cameras he never let his reactions to press get the better for them to make his team worse.
Now is his time to build on that keep control keep the confidence building and it will continue to get better but it begs to ask why the start of the season was so dire.
Well done again lads
let's not let the next game v Leigh be a downer'"
The reason why the first 6 games was so dire was, because Mr Chester was putting round pegs in square holes and concentrating on defence so much ,he forget that it's as important to play players in key positions that can bring some thing to the attack .Plus we could not get the spine of the team on the park at the same time through injury. I admit I have said it was time for a change ,but think the last two matches have give me more faith in the Coaching staff as a unit
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| Quote ="vastman"Those people were noticeable by there absence last week and are equally mute this week.
We won’t hear from them until we lose the the hysterics will begin again. Such is life
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| Quote ="alegend"The reason why the first 6 games was so dire was, because Mr Chester was putting round pegs in square holes and concentrating on defence so much ,he forget that it's as important to play players in key positions that can bring some thing to the attack .Plus we could not get the spine of the team on the park at the same time through injury. I admit I have said it was time for a change ,but think the last two matches have give me more faith in the Coaching staff as a unit'"
What are you on about, of course he was playing players out of position that’s what happens when you have injuries, it’s not rocket science, unbelievable.
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| Quote ="vastman"What are you on about, of course he was playing players out of position that’s what happens when you have injuries, it’s not rocket science, unbelievable.'"
It’s a forum vasty that why people have their own opinions ,no need to knock everyone that says something different to what you believe . Come on we could have cained you for the Ryan hall is fat comments ,but that is your opinion , which in my opinion is way off but there you go . We all see the game in different ways and all differ in how we talk about it ,and that is what makes this a good forum , please don’t stifle people’s view just because they see it differently than yourself.
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| I have been away so no access to the forum. I like all Wakefield supporters are ecstatic that we won because the bottom line is SL survival. I must admit I don’t know who coaches the defensive structure but they have improved the team considerably. I believe it was Peter Fox who said defence wins you games because it results in the opposition making mistakes.
I still believe that Chester is not the answer for next season, sorry Vastman but that is my opinion based on our performances in general. I believe we will make the mistake of giving him a further extension but that will be the club’s decision.
I believe our two victories towards the end of last season were Hull KR followed by Huddersfield but let’s hope that is just coincidence and we can carry on and win again next Sunday.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"It’s a forum vasty that why people have their own opinions ,no need to knock everyone that says something different to what you believe . Come on we could have cained you for the Ryan hall is fat comments ,but that is your opinion , which in my opinion is way off but there you go . We all see the game in different ways and all differ in how we talk about it ,and that is what makes this a good forum , please don’t stifle people’s view just because they see it differently than yourself.'"
I don’t mind opinion and I don’t mind it back but sorry if I see something I disagree with I will comment, end of. Shoot me down all you like over anything, I don’t care to be honest, if I put my head above the parapet then I accept what’s coming, same applies to anyone else.
CC has taken some real crap on here from some truly clueless posters, and now when he’s getting some relief some still can’t resists the taking a pop!
Or is the forum you want only one where people who dig at the club get free reign but those who defend it don’t, huge double standards on this forum at times.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have been away so no access to the forum. I like all Wakefield supporters are ecstatic that we won because the bottom line is SL survival. I must admit I don’t know who coaches the defensive structure but they have improved the team considerably. I believe it was Peter Fox who said defence wins you games because it results in the opposition making mistakes.
I still believe that Chester is not the answer for next season, sorry Vastman but that is my opinion based on our performances in general. I believe we will make the mistake of giving him a further extension but that will be the club’s decision.
I believe our two victories towards the end of last season were Hull KR followed by Huddersfield but let’s hope that is just coincidence and we can carry on and win again next Sunday.'"
So how many would he have to win to change your mind?
Or is it unchangeable?
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"
I believe our two victories towards the end of last season were Hull KR followed by Huddersfield but let’s hope that is just coincidence and we can carry on and win again next Sunday.'"
what's it got to do with it if they were the same two fixtures as the end of last season? I don't get your reasoning?
Did you watch the last two games because if you did, you'd realise that we were good value for the win in both games. In fact we were so dominant in the game against Huddersfield that I think we would have beaten most SL teams.
Give credit where credit is due and stop trying to water the victories down by making silly comparisons!
If you're a Wakefield supporter enjoy it!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have been away so no access to the forum. I like all Wakefield supporters are ecstatic that we won because the bottom line is SL survival. I must admit I don’t know who coaches the defensive structure but they have improved the team considerably. I believe it was Peter Fox who said defence wins you games because it results in the opposition making mistakes.
I still believe that Chester is not the answer for next season, sorry Vastman but that is my opinion based on our performances in general. I believe we will make the mistake of giving him a further extension but that will be the club’s decision.
I believe our two victories towards the end of last season were Hull KR followed by Huddersfield but let’s hope that is just coincidence and we can carry on and win again next Sunday.'"
If you've been away and had no access to the forum, then how come you were logged on to the Leigh Centurion board for the best part of an hour yesterday tea time? unless of course somebody had hacked into your account.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have been away so no access to the forum. I like all Wakefield supporters are ecstatic that we won because the bottom line is SL survival. I must admit I don’t know who coaches the defensive structure but they have improved the team considerably. I believe it was Peter Fox who said defence wins you games because it results in the opposition making mistakes.
I still believe that Chester is not the answer for next season, sorry Vastman but that is my opinion based on our performances in general. I believe we will make the mistake of giving him a further extension but that will be the club’s decision.
I believe our two victories towards the end of last season were Hull KR followed by Huddersfield but let’s hope that is just coincidence and we can carry on and win again next Sunday.'"
I don’t believe you are ecstatic that we won. You get far more jollies when we lose so you can have another go at CC
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| Quote ="PopTart"So how many would he have to win to change your mind?
Or is it unchangeable?'"
There is another option we could let cheesie stay as long as you want and we can then continue loitering around the bottom until we do end up being relegated,
Makes me wonder why we bothered changing the stadium floodlights if we aren't bothered on improvements for the club
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| Quote ="snowie"There is another option we could let cheesie stay as long as you want and we can then continue loitering around the bottom until we do end up being relegated,
Makes me wonder why we bothered changing the stadium floodlights if we aren't bothered on improvements for the club'"
Another bundle of joy!
Who would you bring in?
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| Quote ="snowie"There is another option we could let cheesie stay as long as you want and we can then continue loitering around the bottom until we do end up being relegated,
Makes me wonder why we bothered changing the stadium floodlights if we aren't bothered on improvements for the club'"
So unchangeable then
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| What a sorry sad bunch some of the posters on here are continually bashing Chester. Who signed Lino and kaye and Battye and quite a few more not time to name them all. Chester is the answer. But maybe we should sack him and resurrect Ken Dodd to be coach then all the comedians on here can wollow in their own little circle.
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| I think In general barring St Helens, SL is so unpredictable at the minute. One minute we looked like relegation scrappers, then as slick a side I’ve witnessed at belle vue against 2 strong teams. Chester clearly isn’t a poor coach, we have had very good success with him for the budget that we possess. I believe every coach had a sell by date no matter how well the team is playing, does Chester want this stress past this season, who knows. If we play more consistently like we have the last 2 weeks then who can complain? It’s a simple fact we need our strongest 17 playing 8+ week in week out to compete within this league, the more injuries we pick up the harder it gets with less quality coming in due to us being no where near the cap limit and cutting our cloth accordingly. If you want a consistent team who challenges for titles year after year go follow St’s or Wigan as this isn’t Wakefield. We clearly do the best for where we are at
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| Quote ="1315trinity"what's it got to do with it if they were the same two fixtures as the end of last season? I don't get your reasoning?
Did you watch the last two games because if you did, you'd realise that we were good value for the win in both games. In fact we were so dominant in the game against Huddersfield that I think we would have beaten most SL teams.
Give credit where credit is due and stop trying to water the victories down by making silly comparisons!
=#FF0000If you're a Wakefield supporter enjoy it!'"
You wouldn't think he was, would you?
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I think In general barring St Helens, SL is so unpredictable at the minute. One minute we looked like relegation scrappers, then as slick a side I’ve witnessed at belle vue against 2 strong teams. Chester clearly isn’t a poor coach, we have had very good success with him for the budget that we possess. I believe every coach had a sell by date no matter how well the team is playing, does Chester want this stress past this season, who knows. If we play more consistently like we have the last 2 weeks then who can complain? It’s a simple fact we need our strongest 17 playing 8+ week in week out to compete within this league, the more injuries we pick up the harder it gets with less quality coming in due to us being no where near the cap limit and cutting our cloth accordingly. If you want a consistent team who challenges for titles year after year go follow St’s or Wigan as this isn’t Wakefield. We clearly do the best for where we are at'"
Good post. It just stings seeing clubs our “level” making finals (Salford past two years and Cas in 14).
I would like to see progress being made if Chester were to stay on though, another season where all we aim for is just to outrun the bottom club (this time Leigh) wouldn’t be good enough for me.
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| Nice to see Trinity players occupying the top three Albert Goldthorpe Challenge positions in this weeks League Express: 1/ Mason Lino, 2/ Joe Westerman & 3/ Jacob Miller. Well done lads.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Good post. It just stings seeing clubs our “level” making finals (Salford past two years and Cas in 14).
I would like to see progress being made if Chester were to stay on though, another season where all we aim for is just to outrun the bottom club (this time Leigh) wouldn’t be good enough for me.'"
I agree.
I think coaches have limited time. Or in some cases, you build a new generation around them.
I view Chester as having 4 years with 2 really disrupted years. So personally, I don't judge him like some do on those years.
I like the style of play we play under Chester when it is going right.
Giants game wasn't the only time we've done that to good teams.
Someone else may be able to do more but I don't see one readily available, or someone who fits the Wakefield style as well as him.
In my opinion, the best coach, isn't necessarily the best coach for Wakefield.
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| Haven't we just made a play for one of the best S/O and recently made a a bid for a prop from the nrl.
Ambition is something I have given the club some stick over but it seems now for the time being they are prepared invest.
Players coaches and hopefully supporters should have ambition and to suggest that if you want a club that challenged for honours to go and watch Saints or Wigan seems bizarre.
The club should be climbing the position ladder and not going backwards.
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| At the end of the day fans are generally fickle both ways - most get too down with things too quickly when results don't go right and too carried away when there are a couple of good wins. Let's just see how it pans out over the next few games, because if Leigh stuff us next week then the mood will be different again. If we win then a lot of the remaining pressure will be off and hopefully this will help us kick on for the rest of the season and move up the table. The last 2 games only reiterate to me that we have one of the best squads we've had in SL and irrespective of the shiit thrown at us via injuries and Covid we have frequently under performed and I've personally been unhappy with some of the decision making and post match comments in particular. For Trin and the fans' sake let's hope this purple patch continues
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Haven't we just made a play for one of the best S/O and recently made a a bid for a prop from the nrl.
Ambition is something I have given the club some stick over but it seems now for the time being they are prepared invest.
Players coaches and hopefully supporter should have ambition and to suggest that if you want a club that challenged for honours to go and watch Saints or Wigan seems bizarre.
The club should be climbing the position ladder and not going backwards.'"
George Williams won’t sign for us, and Chester even said we were a million miles away from Signing Fifita when he had the dog in reserve grade. As I said Saints and Wigan are challenging every year as they are the power houses of SL, we are no where near that. Hopefully one day we will, but until we have the financial clout of them it may be later rather than soon.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"George Williams won’t sign for us, and Chester even said we were a million miles away from Signing Fifita when he had the dog in reserve grade. As I said Saints and Wigan are challenging every year as they are the power houses of SL, we are no where near that. Hopefully one day we will, but until we have the financial clout of them it may be later rather than soon.'"
Indeed
I know that some fans point to Salford & Cas making finals.
However, the reality is that if we're some way down the list on spending power, in theory, others should be making finals.
Having said that, certainly with the Challenge Cup, Trinity have been poor for almost 50 years and we are way, way, way overdue a decent cup run (obviously not this season).
Totally agree regarding Fifita and Williams. Unless there were some really, really strong personal reasons for Fifita coming, he would have the pick of any SL and many NRL sides and you would expect some of those to have deeper pockets than us.
Even more so in the case of Williams.
For Trinity to do well, we need a run of results and huge amounts of luck.
We keep dreaming and Wembley seems a more realistic dream than Old Trafford.
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| Wrencat one season Leeds got to Wembley and played a Championship club in every round .Is that the kind of luck you mean
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| Quote ="alegend"Wrencat one season Leeds got to Wembley and played a Championship club in every round .Is that the kind of luck you mean'"
That would be great, just as long as we're drawn at home (I dont men home in the sense of our opening SL game this season either).
IF we can get some stability back and not be in the relegation firing line, we really ought to make sure that we are as close to fully fit and hopefully in some kind of form when the cup comes round next year.
Let's face it, there are only 2 pieces of silverware up for grabs (plus the hub cap) and getting to Old Trafford would be a huge ask but, the cup is only 4 games for most SL clubs. therefore, it should be possible at some point.
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