Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Ermm actually,no you didnt just get on with it,you spent alot of time bitching about how Wigan had robbed you of your super league place. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... reach.html'" When we went down the 2nd time we did, but hold on a moment weren't we proved right and Wigan had a points deduction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Ermm actually,no you didnt just get on with it,you spent alot of time bitching about how Wigan had robbed you of your super league place. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... reach.html'" When we went down the 2nd time we did, but hold on a moment weren't we proved right and Wigan had a points deduction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why then say that Cas don't have the funds, if you don't know. Same here, I don't know, but then again I don't claim too. Things have moved slowly and RW has come in for some stick, but I would rather get it right and it take a bit longer. He's stuck his neck out and said that FPP should be in before Xmas (he's got a week to do this). He has opened himself/ the club for the brown stuff to hit the fan if it doesn't go in, but I am confident that this will happen. Also the small fact of a worldwide recession didn't help!!

WHAT???????? Cas have always (ALWAYS) planned to have a stadium at Glasshoughton, where has Wakefield have looked at any piece of spare land that may be suitable (Thornes spring to mind). The only thing that has changed, is the fact that the stadium may have to be part built due to a funding gap. Bear in mind that this was before the 'Exclusion zone' was lifted from the old Hickson's site and the £2m funding from WMDC. Of course, all Cas fans would like the stadium to be built and completed in one go, but would accept it if part building had to be done to satisfy the powers that be. Now I have said before that I don't know if we have the funds, but then again the club haven't said they don't. NW was always going to be an issue with part LCC ownership and the complaints from residents. GH is ready to basically have a stadium build on it and the transport infastructure is in place (i.e. Railway and road).

then you've not been paying attention

However, Cas do have outline planning permission. Wakey (or Yorkcourt or Wakefield community trust) don't. Unfortnately.

Proved right or wrong is not the point.
You claimed when you went down -- you just got on with it,which you clearly didnt.
Your fans bitched and still do about Wigan and the overspending.
Your club some 9 month after relegation was still seeking legal advise.

So i dont see how you can justify your claim,that you just got on with it.

Jeez where do people get the energy from to bitch and snipe at each other like this. Sure the conduct of some fans from both clubs on occasions is poor and lacking in class. But both our clubs and fans share so much in common that we deserve to give one another and ourselves more respect. Ignore those who feel the need to score points and bitch and 'win the one upmanship'. As a life long Trinity fan I have a shed loads of friends who are cas fans, I take no delight what so ever in their misfortune but I am pleased for them for their success. I wish them every success with their stadium plans - their passion for their club is just as important to them as ours is to us.

Its a false situation to pitch them against us for a franchise - it turns our friends and neighbours into foes. The reality is that the problem here is with the Super League grand plan - like it or not our higher ups bought into it.

There are clubs with a similarly proud tradition to our own in the lower leagues, if they can enjoy their RL there I see no reason at all, should it come to that, why we can not.

Yep, I totally agree.

Ignoring the minor issue of where we'd actually play, that's a very good point. Plenty of clubs with plenty of history in the lower leagues, and plenty of supporters dreaming of better days to come too.

Fair point I suppose, can't argue with that. The point I was making or trying, is that it cleared out some dead wood and helped taking a step back before taking two forward. I appreciate it was easier to get back in as if you won the GF it was easier to get promoted (to a degree - Hunslet for example). For what it's worth I do not want to get a license at another clubs expense, certainly not Wakefields'. At least when it was R & P, it was simply down to who was the better team on the day and the season (which was Wakefield on this occasion). On the side of bitching, I still stick to the fact that if our game against Salford was on Sky we would have won, as we had 2 perfectly good tries disallowed!!!

But that's another story.

I am getting that down & p*ss*d off with the whole subject I think I will have to change my allegiance to the 2 man Peruvian bob sleigh team.
At least nothing is expected from them.

"Those what can",are you sure?

LOL.

Totally agree

Also agree on the licensing front - the current situ has turned good natured rivalry into something not very pleasant.

Same can be said about your Rugby Club

The current situation is certainly bringing out the part time comics.

Albeit,pretty crap ones!!!!!!!!!

Did you say part time? Same can be said about your fans

I have lost all interest in RL full stop SKY and the idiots at Red Hall are doing their best to knacker the sport

Thing is,we bounced back,twice,would you have? Our support was better than a few in SL,and comparable to a few others during our time in the Championship,would yours do the same?,it seems that on this forum all the talk is of doom and gloom,and yes,it did gall me and,no doubt,thousands of others ,that a team ultimately cheated to gain the advantage,the original poster was indeed incorrect to say we just got on with it,but what should we have done?,rolled over and had our belly tickled,no,you try and stand up for what is right,I am Cas Tigers through and through,and if the worst case scenario was a choice between you or us for a license,I would obviously want us to succeed,that is not to say I would be happy with either of us losing out, Cas/Wakefield is one of the matches of the season for me,two traditional "heartland" teams a few miles apart ,battling not only for the points,but something even better,the bragging rights,have we lost sight of what really matters?,I hope not,lets have the banter,but not the bitching,after all we want the same thing,what is best for OUR clubs,don't we?

that's quite funny that because the other day I was told that Richard Wright was in a hot air balloon looking for the development area where the Cas stadium was going to be but he was lost.

He saw a Wakey fan down below so lowered his altitude and shouted 'can you help me'

'I'm looking to find where the Castleford stadium is going but I'm totally lost'.

He replied your in a hot air balloon 15 metres above the floor, you're 40 and 41 degrees north latitude, and 59 and 60 degrees west longitude drifting with a wind at 0.5 metres per second on a heading of 0.36 degrees.

You must be a engineer said Richard,

I am said the Wakey fan, how did you know that.

Well said Richard, everything you have told me is technically correct but I have know idea of what to make of it and I'm still totally lost and don't know where to put this damn stadium, and you've been no help at all and frankly you've delayed our stadium too.

The wakey fan said you must be the leader of the Cas management,

Richard said ' I am how did you know that'

Well you don't know where you are and where your going,

you have risen to where you are due to hot air, made a promise that it looks like you can't keep and you expect people beneath you to solve your problem,

you are exactly in the same position as you were in before we met and some how it will be anyone else's fault but yours

To be fair.. I have seen the club... Trinity that is... relegated twice and promoted twice... not included in the original Super League Plans (and demoted as a result).. and bounce back again.... almost run into the ground by an unscrupulous businessman ... and bounce back again...

the fear we have is... how many time can you bounce back before the bounce runs out?!?

thats a good one from a club thats going into retreat faster than the Italian army in 1943

meant as a joke but you read in to it how you like

Is it a full Stadium or still 1/2?

Its a stadium good enough for SL. Better than no stadium at all.

Its a bloody shame he new where the planning office was