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| Found it. Page 4 of the takeover thread - 'Alf is the real money man' (I presume, as I don't know), that he is Matthews father. So, again, if true, where huge sums of money are involved, he should be part of the DD.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Wow I have no words. This is a fully grown man who now runs his own successful business after taking over from his parents. Theirs is absolutely no need to meet his parents unless he’s thinking of taking him out for dinner! I’ll give you something, you’re loyal, either that, brainwashed or jus blinded by faith.'"
So let me help you with your words.
Matthew Ellis doesn't run his own business. He runs a business owned by his parents.
The money to be invested is in that business not in Matt's pocket (though I'm sure he isn't poor). So the question was, can we meet the people with the money.....not can we meet your dad.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So let me help you with your words.
Matthew Ellis doesn't run his own business. He runs a business owned by his parents.
The money to be invested is in that business not in Matt's pocket (though I'm sure he isn't poor). So the question was, can we meet the people with the money.....not can we meet your dad.'"
Meeting all investors is a very different and reasonable request.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So let me help you with your words.
Matthew Ellis doesn't run his own business. He runs a business owned by his parents.
The money to be invested is in that business not in Matt's pocket (though I'm sure he isn't poor). So the question was, can we meet the people with the money.....not can we meet your dad.'"
There are 3 directors. Matthew is one of them. His parents are the other 2. Do you really think he’s just thought f$€k it I’ll go buy a rugby club without speaking to the other directors first? Without them getting a sniff of it? It’s delaying tactics and hanging on by Minards it’s as simple as that. He needs to go now and let things progress. I don’t believe that he says he’s waitning to see the business plan for the club either. The RFL have been conducting due diligence they would t even entertain it if he hadn’t submitted one they’d have told him to come back when he’s serious. Again more delaying tactics and the brainwashed are falling for it hanging on to every world JM says
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| Quote ="PopTart"So let me help you with your words.
Matthew Ellis doesn't run his own business. He runs a business owned by his parents.
The money to be invested is in that business not in Matt's pocket (though I'm sure he isn't poor). So the question was, can we meet the people with the money.....not can we meet your dad.'"
If Matthew Ellis we're to walk away do you think these two have the finances to pay all the debt off they have created whilst making us competitive on the field and not rely on someone's cash injection.
I've been told the work with the rfl, the due diligence was finished weeks ago, was also told at the wigan game it was 2 more weeks which Carter was slightly disappointed with as he wanted it finished before he went away but I'm just a liar to you pop tart. Like it or not let's just say things are being made difficult at every turn and the goalposts being moved constantly. Just do the deal JM and go with your head held high knowing you have tried your best
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| We are not looking at an hostile takeover but a necessary one which should be expedited without delay. We are still facing relegation and what will JM do if Ellis walks away because JM cannot fund the club. If he was a true supporter he would know that without the investment we are just facing stagnation both on and off the field.
We have been craving for investment, it may not bring back the glory days but it certainly gives us a fighting chance which on our current trajectory does not.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"There are 3 directors. Matthew is one of them. His parents are the other 2. Do you really think he’s just thought f$€k it I’ll go buy a rugby club without speaking to the other directors first? Without them getting a sniff of it? It’s delaying tactics and hanging on by Minards it’s as simple as that. He needs to go now and let things progress. I don’t believe that he says he’s waitning to see the business plan for the club either. The RFL have been conducting due diligence they would t even entertain it if he hadn’t submitted one they’d have told him to come back when he’s serious. Again more delaying tactics and the brainwashed are falling for it hanging on to every world JM says'"
Its not a very good delaying tactic is it. They could answer his question in one meeting.
And what is there to delay. It was mentioned at the meeting that the rush to handover has in some ways gone away. He's given the money that helps us battle relegation. Its better to take the time over the takeover.
There is every likelihood that the delay is on Ellis's side so he can see whether we win on Friday. His investment is massively different based on that result.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its not a very good delaying tactic is it. They could answer his question in one meeting.
And what is there to delay. It was mentioned at the meeting that the rush to handover has in some ways gone away. He's given the money that helps us battle relegation. Its better to take the time over the takeover.
There is every likelihood that the delay is on Ellis's side so he can see whether we win on Friday. His investment is massively different based on that result.'"
The investment would change based on whether any investor is buying a SL club or Championship club..
Winning on Friday is certainly helpful and a further step towards securing a spot in SL.
However, beating Cas, on it's own will not secure our SL status.
In this respect, our grading with IMG is actually as important and maybe more important for any would be investor.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its not a very good delaying tactic is it. They could answer his question in one meeting.
And what is there to delay. It was mentioned at the meeting that the rush to handover has in some ways gone away. He's given the money that helps us battle relegation. Its better to take the time over the takeover.
There is every likelihood that the delay is on Ellis's side so he can see whether we win on Friday. His investment is massively different based on that result.'" so Ellis will be delaying to see if we win on Friday, I've heard it all now. Honest you are just a propaganda machine for jm and mc it's absurd.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its not a very good delaying tactic is it. They could answer his question in one meeting.
And what is there to delay. It was mentioned at the meeting that the rush to handover has in some ways gone away. He's given the money that helps us battle relegation. Its better to take the time over the takeover.
There is every likelihood that the delay is on Ellis's side so he can see whether we win on Friday. His investment is massively different based on that result.'"
Wow you get worse! Absolutely blinded. Go run back to John and report everything now. There’s a good boy
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| His parents will surely be advising him to walk away. A month down the line and he, and possibly they too, will be the recipients of the standard vitriolic abuse.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"so Ellis will be delaying to see if we win on Friday, I've heard it all now. Honest you are just a propaganda machine for jm and mc it's absurd.'"
Didn't say that. Stop making things up again.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Didn't say that. Stop making things up again.'"
I don't know why you bother responding to the "Mega Gammons" on here. Regardless of any sensible logical or rational opinion stated, the "Mega Gammons" word is the only opinions that counts
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| Hilarious that some are now saying that due diligence is a good thing but not needed when appointing a coach on a nod and a wink
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Hilarious that some are now saying that due diligence is a good thing but not needed when appointing a coach on a nod and a wink'"
Not quite the same is it, talking £ millions here, How many coaches have bought a Super League club, with or without their parents?
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Hilarious that some are now saying that due diligence is a good thing but not needed when appointing a coach on a nod and a wink'"
Not quite the same is it, talking £ millions here, How many coaches have bought a Super League club, with or without their parents?
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Hilarious that some are now saying that due diligence is a good thing but not needed when appointing a coach on a nod and a wink'"
What was it they needed to know about him they didn't already know?
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| Ellis deserves credit for stumping up the cash to give us a chance of still being in the fight by financing many of the new signings. I wonder how many think that JM would have been able to do the same and what position would we be in.
I just wish we could get Ellis’s side because all we have is what the current incumbent because I have not read anything from MC is saying and then maybe the uneducated supporters and those who believe themselves to be superior will be able to make an informed decision. I just hope that we the uneducated should it happen will be able to understand all the intricacies and make up our own minds and not be like sheep and follow wherever they are told to go by the current incumbent Shepherd.
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| Quote ="PopTart"What was it they needed to know about him they didn't already know?'"
Its not just about the individual, but about the process (or lack of) surrounding the appointment. The sooner the chancers who are failing the club at board level are out of the way, the better
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Ellis deserves credit for stumping up the cash to give us a chance of still being in the fight by financing many of the new signings. I wonder how many think that JM would have been able to do the same and what position would we be in.
I just wish we could get Ellis’s side because all we have is what the current incumbent because I have not read anything from MC is saying and then maybe the uneducated supporters and those who believe themselves to be superior will be able to make an informed decision. I just hope that we the uneducated should it happen will be able to understand all the intricacies and make up our own minds and not be like sheep and follow wherever they are told to go by the current incumbent Shepherd.'"
He does deserve some credit for that.
What he has done by doing that is take the pressure off the takeover. It doesn't have to be rushed as he has done what needs to be done this year.
I don't really know why people are so bothered for it to be rushed.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He does deserve some credit for that.
What he has done by doing that is take the pressure off the takeover. It doesn't have to be rushed as he has done what needs to be done this year.
I don't really know why people are so bothered for it to be rushed.'"
It’s based on fear that it will be cocked up again when we are so near. I just hope the incumbent isn’t pushing Ellis into a corner because if he walks then so does our future because we need his type of investment to help us compete at the top. I regret accountants are not business people, they help maximise a company’s profitability but do not actually generate any of the actual income.
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| There are no winners in these discussions. Jm put last few years keeping trin afloat and hopefully new man taking us further. If these people looked at this forum I won't blame all for walking away. Only a week ago I'm put out a statement where we are at now.so for me just bloody wait and see the outco e and not upset them that actually know what is happening
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Ellis deserves credit for stumping up the cash to give us a chance of still being in the fight by financing many of the new signings. I wonder how many think that JM would have been able to do the same and what position would we be in.
I just wish we could get Ellis’s side because all we have is what the current incumbent because I have not read anything from MC is saying and then maybe the uneducated supporters and those who believe themselves to be superior will be able to make an informed decision. I just hope that we the uneducated should it happen will be able to understand all the intricacies and make up our own minds and not be like sheep and follow wherever they are told to go by the current incumbent Shepherd.'"
So, anyone who has a different opinion to you, then it’s Baa Baa Baa
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Ellis deserves credit for stumping up the cash to give us a chance of still being in the fight by financing many of the new signings. I wonder how many think that JM would have been able to do the same and what position would we be in.
I just wish we could get Ellis’s side because all we have is what the current incumbent because I have not read anything from MC is saying and then maybe the uneducated supporters and those who believe themselves to be superior will be able to make an informed decision. I just hope that we the uneducated should it happen will be able to understand all the intricacies and make up our own minds and not be like sheep and follow wherever they are told to go by the current incumbent Shepherd.'"
I'm wondering what 'decision' you feel you need to make?
I'm not sure but I'm thinking you are not part of the takeover....are you?
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"So, anyone who has a different opinion to you, then it’s Baa Baa Baa
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See my previous post regarding “Mega Gammons”
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