We need to learn to score first.

Poor policy from Leeds playing Newman for first half only to nurse his injury, surely he's fit or he isn't.They seemed to loose all momentum second half with him going off.

Obviously thought Cas would be easy beats. Never known a team play a player for only half a game in a competing SL game to get fitness, especially a Centre. Should of played him in reserves. They were abysmal most of the game.

And yet the poorest of those sides today beat us 26-0 last week.....

So now we are basically 2 games behind 11th place - its very close to being a bridge to far already - i actually dont see how we are winning 2 games all season and we are going to need at least 8 -10 to stay up........its almost time to bring the mid season sgining ins - lots of players are not getting a run in the NRL now - lets move now before it is way to late if not already

Gives me real hope watching that drop-athon last night ,that plenty of teams are playing poorly right now, where was that god awful performance when we needed it . Got to say Cas’s enthusiasm got them over the line ,but the skill levels from both team was definitely something we know all too well

Doom doom.

Wellll we are already behind the 8 ball aren't we. Hudds were awful and the game was there to be won but we were worse, Leeds weren't much better, but again we were terrible with ball in hand. I've lost count over the last few seasons how many times we have been either level, or 1 score in it at half time, and gone on to lose those games. Obviously we got out of it previously, but it feels different this time sadly

Barring a miracle we ain't gonna win at Salford, so the HKR game is massive. If we don't beat them then we could be cut adrift and we will only be in April!!

Didn't take long did it......

Skill levels or not it's nice to see wingers getting chances, you've 2 2 decent centres on Sunday and if you can get Kay linking up your wingers should get their fair share.

Leigh got beat tonight but they still stuck 4 try’s & 20pts on Warrington to add to the 30 they put on HKR and the 20 they put past Sts. My point is they’re not the fodder that newly promoted teams normally are and I can see them getting the 7 wins they’ll need to avoid relegation.

Hull just looked a whole lot better than their big loss to Salford might have suggested they were and Cas seem to be capable of a decent performance.

We really need to get our season started with a win and some decent performances or we’ll very quickly find ourself adrift at the bottom of the league with confidence low and losing becoming a habit. I know some will say “it’s only 4 games” but we’ve now got Salford, HKR and Sts to build some kind of form before we play 2 crucial matches against Castleford and Leigh.

Another tom johnstone hat trick so hes now scored one and a half times more points than wakefield have this season so far

If he stays on the field he could score a record number this year.

Always said if he stays injury free he's top try scorer this year. He scored plenty with us and we were mostly crap during his time here. He now plays for a top club who know how to use his abilities.

Oh to have someone like Blake Austin who can just lead a beaten team to a victory single handedly.

Spectacular collapse by Catalans

That Leeds vs Catalans game was a delight to watch compared to the dirge I stood and watched last night

Leigh currently scoring a point a minute at Hull. 0-16 after 17 minutes. If we were hoping for the team coming up to be the ones to give us a chance then Leigh don't look to be that team!

If Leigh’s win doesn’t get the Board’s backsides into gear then quite frankly they should quit being involved in Rugby League.

To be fair it’s no shock we’ve (Leigh) competed so well this season, always a little unknown coming up of course but had a squad far too strong for champ last season, lost a few players but kept a good chunk of that squad and added fairly well.

Also Beaumont has backed off on the field influence’s, love him or hate him Chester seems to have a lot of contacts especially for overseas signings and in Lam a coach more than good enough for a lower/middle end SL team

Not our stadium of course but seem well structured off the field so all in all promising signs

Hope you get that first win soon and it kick starts you, from the outside it looks as though you have been “forced” financially to commit to ground improvements and that has maybe affected the squad.

Browsed this forum for years as it has been one of the busier ones and, again from the outside, it seems a bit unfair to put this on Carter as he seems to have been very very committed during his time in charge

Just for clarification PT can you tell me when we begin to panic.
If it was a case of a 20 points loss for all fixtures we did not fulfil we would actually be in a better position, still on nil victories but with only a 120 points deficit.

What are you replying to? I don't get what you are asking me.

Wasn't the sanction increased to a 48-0 loss plus financial compensation to the opponents. That's not even including the income loss for the home fixtures or the hit on the season ticket holders.
Not really an option IMHO

I'm told that Cas fans are saying that Special Agent Miller is still working for us as he is doing such a crap job for them

Not that long since Wells was gloating that Cas had pinched our best player.Hmm!