Atoni is doing an average of 58 metres a game, that wouldn’t be good enough in league 1 never mind SL. Lino is second in the league at errors, so for me he’s either Tommy Dickfingers or too much pressure on him to come up with plays with the minimal time we spend on the opposition line. Paul Vaughan has made 1/6 of our total metres so far, that’s 1 prop. We are top for tackles, yet in the middle of the table for missed tackles, so our defence and effort is there.

I don’t know if it’s budget available or not but since Chester has come to Leigh our signings have been the best we have ever seen, obviously Lam is a pull as the Australia assistant coach but our imports have been superb, rather than names (Blake Ferguson was unreal) we have gone for young energetic fringe players, Asiata is one of the best players I have ever seen in a Leigh shirt. Makes you wonder if Chester was behind all your signings?

Chester left us with Lee Gaskell, Liam Hood, and Tom Lineham. Enough said.

I would say more the budget available.
CC wasted what budget he had on Gaskell and Lineham.
You're very lucky to have a benefactor - I'm afraid that's the fundamental difference between us and the rest of SL.
Money talks. always has and always will.

You're shopping in Sainsbury's and we're shopping in Poundland !!

The current set up extended Hoods deal this season.

Though I don’t think Hood is bad. He’s a solid 9 but that’s about it.

I think this comment sums up our predicament. I think what you say about Hood is correct but it comes back to that point again, would he get in any other super leagues first choice team? Personally i don't think he would and at best he might get a gig as squad player, which is a similar story for a large amount of our best 17 and is where our problem lies. Sadly we just don't have the quality accross the board to regularly compete and neither do we have any real strength in depth when the injuries hit. Our retainment & recruitment over an extended period has left us in a fair size hole.

Funnily enough both Atoni and Taufua made 69 m gains and Whitbread 71

Yes but if you shop a Poundland and pay Sainsbury money that's when the real problem starts

When you pay Harrods Money for Gaskell

Arn't Sainsburys "supposedly" price matching Aldi.

I remember he (DC) posted that on here. It's in black and white!

Wonder what changed?

The problem is we pay Amazon prices but buy from Wish.com

We looked online and then paid high street prices, then those in charge blamed the supporters for not attending in greater number. Judging the money wasted on some 'players' maybe not having full cap to spend is a blessing in disguise.

With the money those players are apparently on, I think we tried price matching with Waitrose.

This about sums it up.

I still ask myself why do British coaches feel the need to buy overseas players based on their You Tube highlights, pay big bucks, and just because they [uwere[/u NRL players must be better than what we have over here. There is a reason why they aren't NRL players anymore.

Spiteful isn't it?

Don’t 100% agree with this mate. For every Atoni you get a Paul Aiton. Atoni was a regular draw at the Bulldogs before going to the Roosters. Although it obviously means diddly squat as he’s been atrocious in my opinion.

You've already done it mate, remember? On Facebook about 2 weeks ago.

Think you've made your point now.

I don't really see what that point is, even after 2 goes.

Just leave him to it.

The recruitment wasn't always bad thought, its only in the last couple of years where we have started really failing and clearly cutting back on the playing budget.

2017 we brought in the likes of Huby, Randall and Sam Williams all 3 of which were good signings and all 3 of which would not be considered cheap options. 2018 we brought in the likes of Rocky and Justin Horo and Pauli Pauli all 3 of which are miles better than anything we brought in this year. Even in 2019 we brought in Kelepi, Kopzcak and George King, again all much better than anyone we have signed recently. It isn't just a case of them turning out to be good signings, they all looked like good signings on paper as well.

The board cut the budget and the quality of signings went downhill and no mater how much you blame Chester for signing the likes of Hood, Lineham and Gaskell, the board who lets face it are not rugby people still signed off on those deals.

Yes pal, I do.

I only repeated it, as not everyone has Facebook and while the subject was re brought up about old signings etc.

Take your point.

I dare say that if our overseas players were at one of our better clubs that they would have to perform, which undoubtedly they can ,or have done recently in their careers .The problem for me is that everything has gone flat of late and these players are only following suit with the lacklustre performances ,whilst we had hoped they would have given our beleaguered troops a lift ,they have done the opposite and settled into easy street far too quickly for my liking, and in the case of Atoni ,who hasn’t even got out of the starting blocks . They all have good credentials ,but bringing them to the table is proving very difficult and frustrating

Which player are you both talking about and what’s the story