From the the recent interviews it looks like the new East Stand plans should be available very soon. Heard work to start next year but surely that would have to be at the end of the season unless there’s a workaround for the old East Stand.

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Potential for private investments into SL, ideal opportunity to put this into the stadium. https://www.totalrl.com/super-league-ex ... -february/

Potential for private investments into SL, ideal opportunity to put this into the stadium. https://www.totalrl.com/super-league-ex ... -february/

Not sure Elstone has a grip on good negotiating tactics informing potential investors that you are looking for a quick outcome leaves it open to 'well that's what we are offering take it or leave it' perhaps he should have said we are looking for the best outcome for SL and the investor and will negotiate accordingly. His words appear a little desperate!

The RFU deal of £200m looks good but who knows, as for what value a potential investor would put on SL I'm guessing £200m is not it.

SL and the RFL do not get the media coverage that the RFU do and that's a big part of the value and these people are investing to make money it will not be goodwill, vanity or I love SL it's profit that they are after

Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Potential for private investments into SL, ideal opportunity to put this into the stadium. https://www.totalrl.com/super-league-ex ... -february/'" The RFU has just staged a brilliant WC, we have just concluded a squalid tour of NZ. Where are there any similarities between the two games, it’s all fantasy. I may be wrong but I fail to see a single part of RL that would be attractive to an investor who’s primary role is making money, I just don’t. One thing I’m even more certain of is if that did happen the first casualties would be clubs like us. The only way it makes sense is if they cherry pick the top SL clubs and create a hybrid game with the top Union clubs. It makes total sense then business wise but not for clubs like us not even if we get the finest new stand ever built. If it happens it will be an utterly one sided deal that will eventually see the end of RL imho.

Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Potential for private investments into SL, ideal opportunity to put this into the stadium. https://www.totalrl.com/super-league-ex ... -february/'" The RFU has just staged a brilliant WC, we have just concluded a squalid tour of NZ. Where are there any similarities between the two games, it’s all fantasy. I may be wrong but I fail to see a single part of RL that would be attractive to an investor who’s primary role is making money, I just don’t. One thing I’m even more certain of is if that did happen the first casualties would be clubs like us. The only way it makes sense is if they cherry pick the top SL clubs and create a hybrid game with the top Union clubs. It makes total sense then business wise but not for clubs like us not even if we get the finest new stand ever built. If it happens it will be an utterly one sided deal that will eventually see the end of RL imho.

I don't agree with your hybrid game part but I agree with the rest.
I honestly can't see an investor identifying profit potential without expansion.

We need to prepare for this so that we are seen as a big city sleeping giant, not a low income village team based in a city. How? That's the tough question. Ground would be a start.

I should have added, if it’s the same investors, which is what’s been suggested, then I suspect you see where I’m coming from regarding a hybrid game. Overnight you have a truly national game that could start to rival football. I’m guessing that’s how these people think.

I don't think they'd bother.
If they really wanted one game they would just kill ours.
Why alienate all the RU fans? The hybrid wouldn't be accepted by them either.

I would agree I dont really see an angle for the investors if its solely just RL based, other than we are a low budget sport with potential to grow. That aside if the club did get a windfall then it presents an opportunity to fund redevelopment, and I would hope this is where it would go rather than mercenary marquee players.

An astute investor however, would question why, if we had that potential, hasn't it already been realised?

Although they (investors) may not be prevalent in RL, for most investors, a chance to buy when something is cheap and not maximising it's potential should be the ideal time to invest.
Buy cheap, invest and then sell at a profit.

For me, RL is still one of the best sports on the planet and "our" inability to sell this to the masses has been a mystery.

Are those at the top frightened of genuine competition and happy to be "big fish" in a small pond or, is there really no appetite for the sport outside of the established pockets of interest.

That's pretty much what I meant, basically RU with perhaps a few minor tweaks to speed it up a little, the term 'hybrid' was perhaps a little generous.

Going back to our new stadium and i know it as been mentioned before and i think one of the football teams did it, The name on a brick for
£100 if and that's a big IF, If we could get the hardcore fans 4k to invest £100 for their name onto a brick that's £400.000 towards the help of the new ground surely that's needs looking at doing.









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I can easily explain that it's Northern and it's genuinely working class. For all the woke talk in the South by which I mean London regarding inclusiveness, the two things they despise the most are northerners and the working-class in general, both of which we possess in spades. This is not a political thing, it goes far deeper than that. Added to that, our own 'Northern' politicians are even worse possessing a kind of inverted snobbery stroke embarrassment regarding the most 'Northern' of games, just look at Box, you could see he despised our oafish game with a passion, only paying lip service to Cas to garner votes.

Sammy Davis Junior once said after converting to Judaism that as a black midget Jew the only way was up, he really should have added being a RL fan for true pathos

We tried that about 15 years ago and we got about 30 donations or something like that. It's a great idea in theory but to get most Wakefield fans to part with a £100 would be the equivalent to parting the Red sea. If you raised 10k I would be utterly amazed, sorry to dampen your spirit but if you're hoping that the good folk of Wakefield will chip in, forget it would be my advice.

I'd chip in on that.

For you - and a very limited number of other people - that may well the case; but 'the masses' clearly don't agree, and never will. Football is the big draw, and RU has the oval ball market sewn up - RL will never, ever come anywhere even close to competing, hence the only 'investment' we ever see is rich fans looking for a plaything, and Sky filling up space when there's no footie.

Sad but true - RL is a niche, Northern sport, that has been ground underfoot by the much more 'establishment' version of the game.

Anybody remember when Rugby League, Rugby Union, Football, and yes, even cricket, were SPORTS and not high-flying business commodities quoted on the stock exchange and in the ownership of mega-millionaires? it seems that the lust for more and more profit has eaten into the game that all of those who post on here love, and the sports have become a form of super Monopoly and nothing else........SAD!!!!!

I support a football club not a million miles from Wakefield that was taken over a couple of years ago by a Chinese/American group of "Investors"
It has become quite clear to supporters that the investors have nothing more in mind than to take as much money out of the Club for themselves by signing promising youngsters then selling them on in a couple of years time and pocketing the profits without any respect for the feelings of the fans and the heritage of the area or the club. Success on the field seems obviously of second importance to the new owners than swelling their pockets.

RU don't have everything.
They have the money and the International brand.
We need to sell our game as the club setup and show that it has mass appeal.

The value of an investor is that they'll bring someone with knowledge.

For me the strength of RL which also happens to be its weakness is that lie football it’s tribal. At club level union has nothing to compare with the great rivalries of RL. Even a modest derby like Cas v Wakefield is beyond them.

Problem is it doesn’t transfer into the national let alone international sporting arena as well as it should.

The main reason for me is that we have never truly consolidated the heartland and until we do we won’t grow, the roots are not strong enough.

We need to be more confident in what we have, the M62 corridor is bigger than Wales and Scotland combined, it’s a country in its own right. If Northerners were as proud of the North as they claim we wouldn’t need to expand in the same way the NRL doesn’t need to, it does so because it can because it remains strong where it always has been strong.

When Aston Villa went up into the premiership I don't know how people get to know these things but the Barnsley owners then became the richest owners outside of the top league, and probably richer than half of those in the premiership, but to be fair to the owners they have never made a secret of what their intentions were from the start and that was simply to make a profit and not pour it back in, hopefully nobody comes knocking from tomorrow for the next month, not sure if your aware redders but that same rumour mill says they've got £6million to spend in this window

aye I'm same as you I'll believe it when I see it

6 million, you might get the left leg for that

Quite right wayne, lad. The owners of Barnsley FC have, as you probably are aware, already been the owner of a quite successful French football club ie Nice, and asset stripped the club, left it floundering and now abandoned it. Chien, Conway et al have absolutely no regard for the club and what it stands for other than it being a cash cow and increasing their billions. The sad part of the new Barnsley ownership is that one of the owners is the son of the former owner, Patrick Cryne, and he seems to have bought into the "buy to sell ethos".
Anyone who "invests" in Wakefield Trinity from outside this area would treat the club in a similar manor. I'm sure that anyone wishing to "invest" in RL would certainly put Trinity at the bottom of their wish pile.

Its not in the too distant past that we had people taking money out this club by way of inflated salaries.

And nepotism.