I hope not too as I like the guy and he is generally doing ok I think. However, yes I think perhaps a bit of pressure is building. I certainly think talking of getting rid of him is ridiculously premature given the run of games we have had against the better sides but I heard a few mumblings about his job for the first time today. And the comments re Kear's absence making the difference, which I did respond to the person saying that by saying that we were doing this last year with Kear there to some extent too. Maybe this is where the slight gap in player quality in certain positions kicks in; you can't keep it going the full 80. I can't see a coach change helping and I don't think the vast majority of us are anywhere near thinking that yet. I might take a different view if we lose any to those outside the 8 at the moment though

I've seen Fifita have worse games when he first arrived and got hero worshiped almost immediately. He was unlucky with the head high, particularly with Ablett dishing out plenty, but again without England and Fifita is he not supposed to play. I think Pauli is taking over Williams' role as the ex NRL player Trinity fans love to bag.

Would you play him above the other 4?

Far too soon to start bagging the coach, especially given the quality of the opposition. I would be starting to worry more if we don’t start picking up wins in some of the winnable games.

I agree that the constant bagging of refs by some of our fans is embarrassing at times.

Today, it came down to decision making and not playing for a full 80. We were attacking right at the end of each half, and for me, on both occasions we took the wrong option.

We did switch off at times last year, but got away with it sometimes.

All have their benefits, all have errors in them, but I like all of them they each offer something different and would be happy for them to be rotated around. We're not seeing the best of Pauli but then 8 games in settling into a new country after a car accident he was never gunna hit the ground running.

Fifita offered a lot more in attack right from day 1. No one is inventing stuff or over reacting to Pauli Pauli. The guy gave Leeds 3 soft penalties and therefore 3 extra sets for dumb play today.




That's Horo.

Re Jowitt and Hampshire over Grix and Finn, I like what I saw from the younger players and we certainly seem a much more dynamic team with those two pivots and rather ponderous with the older two. Would be happy with the same arrangement for the Saints match.

I'm not saying any different but on current form he is no. 5.

He keeps coughing up big errors at big times though

Would really like to see that play on when we all thought JJB had knocked on from the bomb. Both Kendall and Child were unmoved. Doubt we'll get a good view from the end on camera used for Trin TV though.

No worse than Fifita, although I accept Wollo's point Fifita was a much more attacking threat from the off. Still time will tell. He's on a year contract so we may not see the best of him ala Williams.

I actually thought Kendall did ok today. There were a few dubious calls but with the view I had I wouldn't be confident he was wrong. I'll be looking at the Trinity TV for both tries he consulted on though and the knock down he gave as a knock n by us when it looked them. As for not stopping the clock at the end, I don't think he has to immediately. He has to allow reasonable time for KO which in all honesty I think he did. We didn't lose because of that.

we are in big trouble now for top 8- after our impending loss to st Helens we will be level on points with 9th!

Keegan Hirst is the most underrated Wakefield player I've seen for a long time. He has been fantastic in his stints this season. He has improved no end. Massive fan. Again, I said it last week - composure and decision making. This team is as good as the best ones technically and physically. Mentally however, they are not up there with the best. But they could be. Really enjoyed the game today - AGAIN - but left gutted.

Also, Ryan Hampshire should be our starting 7. He was quality.

I'd be a little reluctant to listen to these remarks. It is easy to see a player out on 1 or 2 nights and them enjoying a fag or two for one night in a month and people to make it sound like it is some sort of normal occurrance. I enjoy a fag when I have a drink every now and then but it doesn't mean i'm some kind of totally physically unfit mess (which I am). But I doubt it means the same for a rugby player who is in the gym every day and doing fitness.

Just watched the highlights back.
Nothing wrong with the Leeds tries that some fans found such terrible decisions.
We should have stopped some though.

Absolutely no question about wanting Chester to stay, the only way we will ever succeed is by having a core of players and coaching staff who have worked together for 100+ games. 5 games we should/could have won had we been given the rub of the green and not collapsed for 20 min in the 2nd half again. I still can't see where the next win is coming from; but that doesn't mean we need to bag players or coaches

I would say we are in big trouble but we aren't going to be in the top 4 for sure as its already drifted away from us with that game yesterday, I disappointed the last five results but not the performance in general, these clubs used to walk away with in past and they aren't now, challenge cup has to be our goal as well as a top 8 finish

I never been so positive of how the team has been put together if there's every a club to been afraid of not top 8 I'd say its Hull

If we are in a bad place, how bad are Hull FC?

Assuming we win our game in hand v Widnes, Hull are below us.

Is anyone at Hull chucking teddies out and writing the season off? No.

Talk about a massive over-reaction!

Yes, it hurts to lose by such small margins, but we are still well placed to have a real crack this season.

I was impressed with Kirmond yesterday.

Thought Bill Tupou had generally an untypical poor game when he received the ball and specifically couldn't believe he didn't go for gold when he broke early doors. Passed inside to the theoretically much slower Miller.

Two years ago, we were losing them by 20 points in each game.

I seem to remember it was similar last year, with games like Warrington away. Our problem this year is maybe that we can't slip under the radar anymore, because we're seen as a genuine top eight, and possible top four side. Teams no longer switch off when they come to Belle Vue.

Its not rocket science, we have good players who are giving it their best shot, our game plan was again poor yesterday. Right from the first set we started with fancy dan football, throwing the ball about. Whose bright idea was that, Leeds were missing several props and Sutcliffe was playing at 6 on one leg, for 60 minutes we should have hammered them around the ruck, simple one out drives, plenty of scoots, play field position. Instead with our expansive style we gifted them field position and their middle men who were either filling in or young inexperienced players were not pressured. We need to go to basics

But people were royally entertained. Is rugby league in the entertainment business or winning business? It's a moot point.

Obviously we go down to Belle Vue to be entertained but how long will that last if we are relegated? #thinkinglikeboj

Sorry but although i like to see a great brand of rugby i would take an ugly 2 points any day. At times Wigan are god awful to watch, they slow the game down at the ruck, they are anti offload (even when its on) there set plays can be seen in the amateur game and they spend there time grinding down there opponents until they break... every now and then they throw the ball out to the flanks on an overlap and score a try that is pleasing to the eye.

To answer your question, this is a results business and whatever style of play makes us a hard team to beat is what we should be going with.