If the trust didn't come forward with an objection (which I highly doubt) why would the council not turn it down? I'm not a planning expert however I'd like to think they have the power to do so?

Hmmmm, multiple persona?

Maybe the trust as a whole didn't because they didn't know, maybe just one person did?

You'd think this was obvious by now wouldn't you

Even if that one person did, and didn't object, surely the council have the authority to turn the application down? I'd like to know the reason why the council passed the PP, what do they benefit?

Sorry but i'm not sure how the trust didn't know the Newcold build didn't count? It was there for all to see on the planning portal 5 days after the the application went in and 3 months before the decision was made. And the Cas fan that used to come on here told us all several times! It clearly states the following....

[iRecent Planning History
The proposed site is set within a planned large mixed use development where Outline Planning consent has already been previously granted by the Secretary of State. The outline approval consists of a community stadium, multi-use games area, B8 warehousing and distribution units, B1b and B1c business units, a hotel and an A3 unit, roads infrastructure and landscaping.
Details of the extant outline consent are filed under Wakefield District Council ref:10/00225/OUT and The Planning Inspectorate Ref;APP/X4723/U/11/2144563. The proposed application site is situated within the northern half of Plot 7 indicated on the approved site master plan. Plot7 is allocated for a large B8 warehouse on the approved layout and is within the allocation in the adopted local plan and related access corridor designation. The proposed building height is above that identified on the current outline approval, therefore an application for All Matters Reserved was not deemed appropriate. This detailed application is a standalone application and in no way legally ties it to the extant outline consent mentioned above. The outline approval has however been carefully considered to ensure the proposed scheme integrates with it and in no way prejudices the implementation of any development controlled by that consent. [/i

Now whether you agree that this should have been the case is a different argument altogether (and i believe it should have been) but i find it difficult to believe the trust members didn't look up the application themselves and if they didn't how is that the councils fault, especially when they reiterated it in a meeting with the trust chairman? I'm not sure we can blame the council for that one.

Increased business rates income & around 150 new jobs created.

Would that still not occur if the newcold shed was part of the original agreement?

Not a WT Supporter, but have followed this shambles for years wishing you all well, so forgive my quick thought.

The selective quoting of minutes is a typical government tactic as it will be picked to make the point they want, while not telling us what was said before or after (which might be the opposite).

However WMBC have now admitted they DO have minutes of those meetings, so someone needs to enter a FOI request for them and if they refuse (for whatever reason) appeal to the Information Commissioner who can (and often does) order their release.

Good Luck All.

Here we have the reply from WMDC (stolen from the VT) www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/p ... ty-stadium I think that someone "in the know" needs to be looking at this.

Here we have the reply from WMDC (stolen from the VT) www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/p ... ty-stadium I think that someone "in the know" needs to be looking at this.

If anyone any doubts about the Wakefield Express loyalties just look at what Armadillo says about the timeline of the statement been released. Just at the right moment as to not give the chance of reply before going to press.

Where is this?

i understand how Yorkcourt managed to get the Newcold to not count against the trigger point, by putting in new a PA because it was going to be so much higher than planned. But I still can't get my head around why the Council didn't make it part of the initial agreement. Ateotd they wouldn't have been building the thing if it wasn't for the 15000 signatures and the Community side of things anyway, so why did they let them basically circumvent the original S106 agreement.

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This bit has got to make you cringe a bit.
'Since planning permission was granted, Wakefield Council has been actively working to attract private sector investment and development at Newmarket to help achieve the 60,000 square metres of B8 Warehousing and distribution floor space identified in the Unilateral Undertaking.'
Yes WMDC by the looks of things you're dong a stand up job.

Thank you.

It will also be good to see the audit trail on this too

Quote ="wrencat1873"Here we have the reply from WMDC (stolen from the VT) www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/p ... ty-stadium I think that someone "in the know" needs to be looking at this.'" I see from the headline it's still "Wakefield Trinity Stadium" as opposed to "city of Wakefield community stadium" Sounds about right.

Quote ="wrencat1873"Here we have the reply from WMDC (stolen from the VT) www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/p ... ty-stadium I think that someone "in the know" needs to be looking at this.'" I see from the headline it's still "Wakefield Trinity Stadium" as opposed to "city of Wakefield community stadium" Sounds about right.

Quite clearly the council are now attempting to justify their position... which comes across as a weak, churlish and childish position. With little .. or no substance if interrogated with the statement:

' the best interests of the people of Wakefield is at the centre of everything we do'

The actions are that of politics... political bias! ... and using elected position to further personal agendas!

Awful response but one which accurately reflects the true nature of those who have seized control of local politics!!!

Am I missing something or am I underestimating the task of raising £2Million

It clearly states that we need to reach one of two trigger points, the much publicised 60,000sq/m or the much less known raising of £2Million by a trinity of WMDC, Stadium Trust and Wakefield Trinity.

Now in full on Arthur mode, this was back when £2Million was a lot of money, however surely between the 3 it's easier to find the money than it seems it is to get the Developer to meet his responsibilitie.

So, a lot of waffle but still no explanation as to why WMDC allowed the Newcold build to not contribute to the stadium build trigger point.

They could've rejected the application based on it not complying with the original plans, they allowed it not to contribute towards the trigger point. The fact this was potentially missed by volunteers when, like all of us, they were more than likely under the impression that it would count is irrelevant. It was hidden from them and placed in a barrage of text certainly Yorkcourt and maybe others took a punt that it would be missed.

Box needs pushing on this issue alone. It's the one weakness that can not be explained otherwise it would be there. How about employing a student to walk behind him wherever he goes with a massive placard which reads "What has Peter Box got to hide?".

I know the likely result of all this is still no new stadium for Trinity or facilities for the public, but if it ousts Box it will have been worth it.,

They're still insisting, rather absurdly, that The SoS has to enforce the planning application and that it's nothing to do with the WMDC planning department. Do they really expect the SOS to come up and adjudicate on the planning application from York Court.

They also say there's no S106 agreement then in their FAQ they have two explanations of a Unilateral Undertaking both of which state that it's a S106 agreement!

What a joke!

Regarding the task of finding £2M.
This is a direct quote from Box's E mail today.......The Council, during informal conversations with the Trust, has made it clear that it is prepared to make a financial contribution, similar to the offer made in 2009, as part of the development of a new stadium at Newmarket.
Doesn't that suggest that the £2M is being offered by the council?

Even if it's in the form of a land bank which the Trust could borrow money against, let's say £1M then another Million in grants, sponsorship of the stadium, loans, a mortgage or whatever.

I may be wrong but I think I remember Rodders was supposed to be the man that would get access to grants and funding etc for that £2M because he'd done similar for other projects.