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| Quote ="bentleberry"Sadly, it suits the council better to spread half truths and misinformation about the whole sorry saga'"
He is just quoting the party line.
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| Yep, it took him quite a while to come up with that response, and it only came after I didn't let him avoid answering any longer. It makes you wonder if he'd been in touch with our illustrious council leader for a suitable answer...
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| Quote ="bentleberry"Yep, it took him quite a while to come up with that response, and it only came after I didn't let him avoid answering any longer. It makes you wonder if he'd been in touch with our illustrious council leader for a suitable answer...'"
It's pretty much the same response I got from Peter Box on Radio Leeds so we can draw our own conclusions on that.
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| I dare not put into words my opinion of the majority of councillors I have had dealings with,on both a personal and professional basis, over the years .
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Councillor Morley needs to read the Planning Inspector's Report and the Decision Letter from the Secretary of State's Office then he would be aware of the correct facts.'"
where can one read said documentation Mr Sandal Cat???
bearing in mind I am attempting access from Australia.
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| Just read this which I think helps my understanding:
What are S.106 Agreements?
As part of the planning process, the Council and a developer seeking planning permission may enter into a legal agreement – usually following Planning Applications Committee (PAC) recommendation to grant planning permission subject to such an agreement being entered into – that will set out the terms for the developer to provide or fund the provision of infrastructure, services or other impact mitigation measures on or off the development site. This agreement is referred to as a “Section 106 Agreement or Planning Obligation”.
What are Unilateral Undertakings?
A unilateral undertaking like a S.106 agreement is a legal deed where developers covenant to perform planning obligations however unlike S.106 agreements they don’t have to be entered into by the local authority. A unilateral undertaking comes into effect when planning permission to which they are linked is granted.
I also found some extracts from the actual Unilateral Agreement which seems to suggest that:
The unilateral agreement is issued under section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act and whilst Council is not a party to the unilateral undertaking it clearly has obligations under the agreement. (As do [ithe Trust[/i and kind of suggests it is legally binding).
The agreement also refers to 'reasonable practicability' in expediting requirements of the agreement.
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| Quote ="bentleberry"Councillor Matthew Morley
"as far as I'm aware regarding the stadium at Newmarket Lane if that's the one which you mean. When Eric pickles as secretary of State agreed for the development of the land He never committed the developer to a 106 agreement. Which would have required him to build the stadium. he excepted a unilateral agreement that as no legal binding. And that is as much as I know"'"
Quote Matthew Morley
Cllr Stanley&Outwood, cabinet member Wakefield MDC, Magistrate
Went to Castleford High School
Lives in Castleford
From Leeds'"
mmmmm...... I smell cronyism.....
As far as I am aware = I've been told to say
and that is as much as I know = I've been told not to enter into any discussion about this
Yet again hiding behind the technical term "s.106 agreement". We need to use the term "s.106 obligation" so that they can't deny its existence.
A little embarrassing that the representative for Outwood and Stanley doesn't know all about the stadium.
Would the SoS really have to build the stadium?
He needs to do his own homework.
While he's at it, he could look up excepted and accepted in the dictionary.
Very poor response.
Have the trust/swag ever met with him?
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| Quote ="Wholly Trinity"mmmmm...... I smell cronyism.....
As far as I am aware = I've been told to say
and that is as much as I know = I've been told not to enter into any discussion about this
Yet again hiding behind the technical term "s.106 agreement". We need to use the term "s.106 obligation" so that they can't deny its existence.
A little embarrassing that the representative for Outwood and Stanley doesn't know all about the stadium.
Would the SoS really have to build the stadium?
He needs to do his own homework.
While he's at it, he could look up excepted and accepted in the dictionary.
Very poor response.
Have the trust/swag ever met with him?'"
If this is the guy whose wife came canvasing at my door (I live in Outwood) and is a big cas fan, and had next to no Knowledge of the Big Fridge when I asked her, then his response does not surprise me.
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Quote ="Spookdownunder"where can one read said documentation Mr Sandal Cat???
bearing in mind I am attempting access from Australia.'"
You need to go on the Councils Planning Portal. I'm not right clever with this stuff but try the link below :
www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/planning
Then click on view applications and then put the reference 10/00225/OUT in the search box and you will get the Newmarket application. Its all there to see and there are some heavy documents and drawings including a nice 12,000 capacity Community Stadium.
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Quote ="Spookdownunder"where can one read said documentation Mr Sandal Cat???
bearing in mind I am attempting access from Australia.'"
You need to go on the Councils Planning Portal. I'm not right clever with this stuff but try the link below :
www.wakefield.gov.uk/residents/planning
Then click on view applications and then put the reference 10/00225/OUT in the search box and you will get the Newmarket application. Its all there to see and there are some heavy documents and drawings including a nice 12,000 capacity Community Stadium.
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| That councillor clearly has no grasp of a unilateral undertaking.
An agreement is a contract between two people to arrive at an agreed end point, and it is actionable by either party should the two-way agreement not be satisfied.
A unilateral undertaking is a promise by one party that is relied upon by the other, and who follows a certain course of conduct as a result. As such, it is actionable by the party to whom the undertaking is given.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"That councillor clearly has no grasp of a unilateral undertaking.
An agreement is a contract between two people to arrive at an agreed end point, and it is actionable by either party should the two-way agreement not be satisfied.
A unilateral undertaking is a promise by one party that is relied upon by the other, and who follows a certain course of conduct as a result. As such, it is actionable by the party to whom the undertaking is given.'"
He is just quoting the party line. Any Councillor asked will answer the same way.
The Unilateral Undertaking is persuant to Section 106 of the Town & Country Planning Act and is therefore a Section 106 Agreement. It is given by Yorkcourt to Wakefield MDC so as you say is a legally enforceable contact between Yorkcourt and the Council.
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| Quote ="Wholly Trinity"mmmmm...... I smell cronyism.....
As far as I am aware = I've been told to say
and that is as much as I know = I've been told not to enter into any discussion about this
Yet again hiding behind the technical term "s.106 agreement". We need to use the term "s.106 obligation" so that they can't deny its existence.
A little embarrassing that the representative for Outwood and Stanley doesn't know all about the stadium.
Would the SoS really have to build the stadium?
He needs to do his own homework.
While he's at it, he could look up excepted and accepted in the dictionary.
Very poor response.
Have the trust/swag ever met with him?'"
Yes, I met with him and other councillors from that ward - they did not want to know let alone get involved!
IA was with me as he is a member of the Labour Party. It makes no difference around here.
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| [list[/list:u Quote ="TRB"Yes, I met with him and other councillors from that ward - they did not want to know let alone get involved!
IA was with me as he is a member of the Labour Party. It makes no difference around here.'"
What's in it for them to not want to know about a community stadium that 15k + signed for. The truth is coming heads will be rolling.
Love this Club
Love this City
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| Quote ="TRB"Yes, I met with him and other councillors from that ward - they did not want to know let alone get involved!
IA was with me as he is a member of the Labour Party. It makes no difference around here.'"
That makes it all the more disappointing.
A sad indictment of modern democracy.
How do you lot deal with this level of frustration?
I'm not a violent person, but I think I would have punched someone by now.
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| Quote ="Wholly Trinity"That makes it all the more disappointing.
A sad indictment of modern democracy.
How do you lot deal with this level of frustration?
I'm not a violent person, but I think I would have punched someone by now.'"
It's not only you Wholly, there would be a queue a mile long to do the same
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| The Councillors are yes men, Box is a dictator he runs the council as his own personnel Fiefdom. He decides which Councillors get to stand in which ward, he plays the numbers games brilliantly, he knows that he can put anybody up for election in many of the wards in our area and that person will get in, because most of his Councillors are weak minded greedy parasites they follow exactly what box tells then to do. In return they keep their safe seat and reap all the financial benefits, £ 30,000 expense money each year is a fortune to many of them. Then if they do as they are told and follow Boxes line they get a more lucrative position say on the cabinet when they can claim even more. At the back of their greedy minds they know that if they went with their conscious and spoke the truth or God forbid question Box then they lose their positions and their financial rewards. Then you have the paid officials who are on absolute fortunes, Joanne Rooney and her ilk on £ 150,000 plus per year. So Box knows that he can bully his employees and his Councillors. The last man to question him was the ex Chief Executive who was call Foster, guess what he was sacked by Box and guess what Foster went on to win a £ 500,000 wrongful dismissal case, no bother to Box as the tax payer picked up the bill. Box knows that his Councillors are weak minded and that they rely on the money and more importantly the Councillors know that Box has it within his gift to make or break them. Local politics at its bullying corrupt worst.
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| I'm interested in your post Belly.
I have no real connection with council goings on so don't know anything about these guys. Maybe I should. Is all that in the public domain or have you used any artistic license there?
It's quite specific.
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| That is exactly why I posted about my dealings with councillors .
Well said Belly.
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| And people wonder why brexit and trump managed to win. Wherever there is politics there is greed and corruption close by. It's a disgrace what he has done to the city and should be removed from office.
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| why don't you try cllr cummins she is a big trinity fan.
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| Quote ="inside man"And people wonder why brexit and trump managed to win. Wherever there is politics there is greed and corruption close by. It's a disgrace what he has done to the city and should be removed from office.'"
Time for the forever-Labour-voting sheep of the Wakefield district to change their minds then....like that's ever going to happen !!
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| Quote ="FIL"Time for the forever-Labour-voting sheep of the Wakefield district to change their minds then....like that's ever going to happen !!
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It has here FIL and for a few years now. If it can change my mind, let me tell you it can change anybody's.
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| Changed my mind also, after many, many years.
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| Can anyone name a councillor we can trust? or put another way will a councillor who we can trust step forward please.
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