Edited.

According to Rocky's dad Wigan have refused requests' from 4 SL clubs' to take him on loan next season.

Rocky???

Is the great Derek Turner still that fit.



I doubt there is any player currently in Super League who deserves to share that moniker. Maybe Jamie Peacock comes closest.

Can't see your point here squire, what's wrong with being called Rocky nobody is comparing him to Derek Turner, and as for your last effort it's a wise man or a fool to come out with a statement that in effect your saying Turner was the best player ever to play Rugby league, course he was

I'm not saying Turner was the best player ever but I am saying that to many the name Rocky brings him to mind instantly. His physique, temperament and playing style earned him that moniker. Maybe you young'uns think his name came from having an "R" in the word Turner.

I thought they were referring to Sly Stalone!

Most wingers are bigger than Derek was then and probably have a better physique. But that was then and this now. Different kettle of fish as they say.

Bit off subject but Turner wasn't called Rocky because he was big. He wasn't the biggest even in his day but certainly not by today's standards.
He was called rocky because he was hard, and I dare say harder than anyone playing the game now. That you can compare.

Hard is one word for it, with due respect to his amazing c.v. nowadays he would be punished by the camera angles and suspended regularly.
Crash tackles I think they called them. Different game then, little comparison to now, cream would rise though.
Back on topic, what is happening with Tim Smith?

This thing originally got my goat a few years back when there was a little half back for Warrington called Rob Turner. Somehow some people referred to him as Rocky too. It's probably only a Rugby League thing and more so a Wakefield thing where that nickname is synonymous with a single player.
Imagine Iron Mike Korkidas, Hurricane Collis or Chariots O'Lynn.

A few weeks ago Ray Warren referred to Aidan Guerra as "The Wild Bull of the Pampas" which irked me at the time because that's a nickname unique to Vince Karalius.

I wonder if HKR may be looking at Timmy now they’ve sold Burns to St’s?

Might be but once bitten twice shy may have already made Tim's mind up on which team he joins next year.

I wonder if that's the downside when young lads go to a big club? He's unquestionably a rare talent but at this stage in his career, he surely needs to be playing regular SL? When P&R returns and the ability to coast through the regular season is diminished, young players in similar situations will surely be behind their senior counterparts - in this case, Matt Bowen.

With regard to Tim Smith - I have a feeling that the sticking point is to do with his severance deal from Salford; he was at the beginning of a lengthy contract I believe, so if they want him off the books for cap/quota reasons, he'll be due some compensation.

The local press have resurrected the Kirmond thing again with regards to Smith.

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Personally, I can't see it, and think it's just journalistic page-filling. Thought you'd maybe be interested.

Although, in its favour, we are in the market for a backrower with Hock wanting to add to his Club collection.

Possibly an idle journalist lifting it directly from here, a la Dave 'Nosey' Parker.

I hope it's not true - Smith is good for us, but he's not worth sacrificing Kirmo.

Keating also on the way out so possibly so now they've missed out on Todd Carney. They are also looking for a hooker to replace Hodgson.

Siejka has signed for Bradford.

I'd forgot about Harry, genuine question. Has he been featuring in the team of late and if not, why.

Harry Siejka confirmed as a Bull. www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/art ... rry-siejka

Harry Siejka confirmed as a Bull. www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/art ... rry-siejka

I've given Siejka his own thread. Lets keep this one for Tim Smith.

Not played for us since May, went on loan to Fev but not getting a game there either. Why? Mainly because he's not very good.

Anyway Tim Smith. Is he signing for us or not?

It was wire that were interested Baz