Guessing it may be Jimmy Lowes.

Erm. More OR less? In other words we should get 2?

If so he'll be about as 'in the know' as you or I.

In my opinion 2 back would be fair, any more and the game is bent, any less and Bradford have been hard done to.

Seeing as we have handed them 4 pts Its reasonable to think the appeal panel will also.

I'll be surprised if we get any points back and despite us beating you today I'd rather be in your shoes than ours.

I'll be hoping you hang onto Agar tho!

They shouldn't get any points back unless they pay a significant number of creditors off and even then it's a maximum of 2 points

Mathers try was obtruction and was probably the correct call given whats gone on this season. Our guy pushed him by the looks of it. Kear should have also gone to the bin with Moore though. If Bradford get 4 back i think we will go down whilstever Agar is in charge.

Today was terrible and a slight improvement in the second half doesn't mask it to anybody who has ever been involved in the game. The Bulls were comfortable and just played out a simple game plan as the game was won by halftime. We never particulalrly worried them enough to look like a comeback was on the cards. A select few of our guys get an average rating, the rest were very poor. The lack of urgency worried me the most. And a few of them looked liked they couldn't really care less.

Does anyone know who Agar was referring to in his post-match comments about "dodging/pulling out of tackles"?

Shouldn't matter to us how they get back, we should have opened the gap by now.

This is down to squad tinkering imo.

I thought Ryan was your stand out player, he seemed a real handful and caused our defence problems all match.

Re the points appeal, I'm happy to let the independent experts decide whether everything was done correctly and fairly. If the points deduction stands, I certainly won't be whinging about it and will accept their decision.

Sounds like the way to describe a typical mathers performance

Was told Sidlow ran in and started punching which also which should have earned him a card. Also Agar says that they have seen the replay of the Mathers try several times and should have been awarded. I haven't though so can't say.

Exactly, let the powers that be sort it.

Normally you'd be right but I thought Mathers played well today, looked handy going forward and returned the kicks well enough. It was around the middle we were getting beaten, Wildie and Kirmond were the ones I noticed dropping off tackles. I'd really love to know what has happened to DK, I wasn't expecting another year like last year but he has not performed all season. Such a shame for such a good player and bloke.

It was soft no doubt but about on a par with others that have been disallowed for next to nothing this year. It's the interpretation of the law which is an ass. But yes Bradford should have had at least one in the bin as well, that was plain wrong. It was not the reason we lost though despite what Agar wants us to believe.

Think he's just run himself into the ground

The same who've been doing it for weeks on end looking at our points against tally.
Irony is we only conceded 20 which is half our normal tally and NOW he questions commitment in defence.

Also to those who still support this clown who else would employ him?
Oh that's right France another team playing well below their potential.

Carrying injuries, should be rested.

Yeah. You and the 50 other Bulls fans voting no, on the Agar out thread.

I walked 8 miles from my home in liversedge to watch that and I am not happy. That team on paper is good enough to be in super league, however there seems to be no game plan no moves nothing. Its like playing amateur rugby, everytime you get near the line try and step a player to score and hope you don't get tackled. Sure the coach has to take some blame but these guys are professionals and need to stand up and be counted. We had plenty of opportunities to score and always took the wrong option.

Kirmond is suffering from two things from what I can see; a recurring injury and no Tim Smith to put him in the gaps.

He should have been rested when we played Leeds at Headingley, it wasn't like we had much of a chance, instead he was allowed to play with a painkilling injection.

None back would be fair if everything said about the reasons for administration is true but do we really know the truth.

I went today and was embarrassed to be wearing the shirt. I have seen all the bad times in the last 50 years and there have been a lot but i have never been so BORED watching Trinity. No passion no skill no ideas no organisation. The only way we are going to rescue this season is to sack agar and chums. Appoint an up and coming coach and send all the loan players back . Lets have a settled side and build something. We may not win many more matches but we might see some effort.

Scruton? Did he actually do ANYTHING at all in his second stint? He looked like a player who really did not want to be there.