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| Quote ="kinleycat"I think it was a fair assessment.
It wasn't our best side (assuming the three overseas players are going to be successful and smith and lautiti to come back in) but we were beaten in all departments by fev today.
The experienced players came up short today.'"
Of course they did it was a training exercise - if you think Agar cares about the result he won't because he won't have considered it a real game. Whats more worrying to me is some of the young players who had something to gain maybe didn't perform as well as perhaps I hoped they would!
Problem is it's yours/my pride that's hurt not his and that's the problem with friendless - I'd go as far as renaming them training run 1,2 and 3.
Don't get me wrong it was hard to watch, but unlike the boxing day game which is a bit of a treat for the fans this was pure training and pretty boring to watch.
Agar on the other hand may have gleamed a treasure trove of info.
So no I don't think it was a fair point, but one none the less he is free to make.
PS: I lost interest in the result of friendlies years ago after HKR scored over a 100 points against Chorley(I think) in one. Their new star player from RU Bishop had a blinder and they looked a real challenger for the title- I believe they were relegated that year and were not to grace the top fight for over 15 years.
friendlies - bah
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| I don't know you'd have said the same thing two weeks ago after drawing with Leeds vasty????
Though your comments are correct - the only "concern" would be that decision making/kicking were of low quality.
Cas for example drew 30-30 with Halifax and most people came away positive, cause Danny Orr played 30 minutes, and when he wasn't on the field we moved the ball really well and turned the ball over in the right areas.
We conceded 30 points yeah, but I'd rather have our defensive frailties exposed on 26/12/2013 than on 16/04/2014 - we've got 4 months to review it and work on putting it right.
It doesn't helpto give a good reflection when, from what I've heard, it was proper winter rugby serving as preparation for a summer season
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I don't know you'd have said the same thing two weeks ago after drawing with Leeds vasty????
Though your comments are correct - the only "concern" would be that decision making/kicking were of low quality.
Cas for example drew 30-30 with Halifax and most people came away positive, cause Danny Orr played 30 minutes, and when he wasn't on the field we moved the ball really well and turned the ball over in the right areas.
We conceded 30 points yeah, but I'd rather have our defensive frailties exposed on 26/12/2013 than on 16/04/2014 - we've got 4 months to review it and work on putting it right.
It doesn't helpto give a good reflection when, from what I've heard, it was proper winter rugby serving as preparation for a summer season'"
Don't get your point, any of it - what's Leeds got to do with it
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| your point that "frendly results don't matter" .......I don't think you'd have said the same about drawing with Leeds? I'm sure you were full of praise for that result?
The rest of my post wasn't raising a point, other than stating what I percieve to be important about friendlies and what isn't
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| For what its worth i enjoyed the game it got rid of the closed season cobwebs and wetted the appetite for the coming season, my look on the game as follows:-
The featherstone team were more or less the same players who not long since finished a successfull season in the championship and were match fit and up for it, Wakefield on the other hand did not resemble the team that finish low down the table months ago, they were no where near match fit.
The match its self was predictable in fact i predicted the result before kick off i think it will have done the players good to get that under their belts and prepare for the next one.
I was stood right near the corner where the last two efforts were ruled out and the first one was on the line and the last one (i think it was Peter Foxes) effort was grounded both ruled out by the ref but what do you expect when he comes from ponte.
All in all Feth desrved the win and i am looking forward to the Huddersfield game.
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| The featherstone team were more or less the same players who not long since finished a successfull season in the championship and were match fit and up for it, Wakefield on the other hand did not resemble the team that finish low down the table months ago, they were no where near match fit.
11 of those players yesterday didn't play at Featherstone last year and no championship side who work all day should be fitter than a S/L team of full time players It look to me as though some of your players didn't want to be there I agree it was only a friendly but you should win these games or are people right and the gaps not that big at the bottom of S/L and the top of the championship
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| Quote ="jtfev"The featherstone team were more or less the same players who not long since finished a successfull season in the championship and were match fit and up for it, Wakefield on the other hand did not resemble the team that finish low down the table months ago, they were no where near match fit.
11 of those players yesterday didn't play at Featherstone last year and no championship side who work all day should be fitter than a S/L team of full time players It look to me as though some of your players didn't want to be there I agree it was only a friendly but you should win these games or are people right and the gaps not that big at the bottom of S/L and the top of the championship'"
17 full time players on your books by all accounts.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"your point that "frendly results don't matter" .......I don't think you'd have said the same about drawing with Leeds? I'm sure you were full of praise for that result?
The rest of my post wasn't raising a point, other than stating what I percieve to be important about friendlies and what isn't'"
As I clearly alluded to the Leeds game is more a treat for the fans and tends to resemble a real game with a game plan and realistic player rotation, so yes I probably would.
It's a poor attempt to to create a storm in a tea cup Dave even by your recent standard.
The Fev game never resembled a proper game with Props being spelled every ten mins etc. It's not an attempt to dismiss Featherstone though who on the day gave us a far harder game than Cas normally manage.
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| Quote ="vastman"As I clearly alluded to the Leeds game is more a treat for the fans and tends to resemble a real game with a game plan and realistic player rotation, so yes I probably would.
It's a poor attempt to to create a storm in a tea cup Dave even by your recent standard.
The Fev game never resembled a proper game with Props being spelled every ten mins etc. It's not an attempt to dismiss Featherstone though who on the day gave us a far harder game than Cas normally manage.'"
you really love this far too much.
My original post was 4 paragraphs of agreeng with you.
Secondly, if you think Leeds game plan was comparible with a Super League game, you need to actually watch it back. How many times will Zak Hardaker play SO for them this season???
But yes, the Leeds game, great result. Sunday's game, the result isn't important.
Hypocritical piffle. Make your mind up.
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| Quote ="jtfev" are people right and the gaps not that big at the bottom of S/L and the top of the championship'"
they certainly are right.
Featherstone Halifax and Sheffield would certainly not be out of place in an 8 team league with Cas, Wakey, London, Widnes and last year's Salford.
There's no massive gap at all.
people whine about your stadium and it's outrageously moronic.
SL clubs receive massively more funding than Fev, yet cas and wakefield have let their grounds go to a state of disrepair.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"17 full time players on your books by all accounts.'"
17 full time players my big ginger botty! Nowhere near that amount. Tho I will concede Fev perhaps have the bigger squad - for the mo at least!!
Anyway, want to buy a scoreboard???
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"they certainly are right.
Featherstone Halifax and Sheffield would certainly not be out of place in an 8 team league with Cas, Wakey, London, Widnes and last year's Salford.
There's no massive gap at all.
people whine about your stadium and it's outrageously moronic.
SL clubs receive massively more funding than Fev, yet cas and wakefield have let their grounds go to a state of disrepair.'"
It may not look it but a fair bit has been spent on BV with the new roofs and the hospitality boxes. How they were 'paid' for is open to debate.
I guess it's harder when your costs are so much higher too. Any SL club who diverts their central funding into the stadium rather than their squad are asking for trouble.
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| You never fail to amaze me vasty, a training game ,agar wouldn't be bothered if we won or lost,gained a treasure load of info,what a joke ,reality would have wanted to win desperately,won't use much of the info he's gained he'll still pick mathers,don't you think the reason why he made so many changes at prop was that tha fev pack was giving us the runaround,a couple of plusses for me among our pack were Dan smith and an akin I liked the way smith handled and offloaded . Another point vasty if you want to test your players you don't have them playing teams like chorley,I agree that wouldn't have done hull kr much good but you can't compare that with our game against fev which was a true test,oh no we wanted to win and your attempt to make little of it won't wash with me
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| Didn't go yesterday but sounds a very mixed reaction depending on what people were looking for.
I have been banging on about Goulding for the last couple of weeks and I think it has been mentioned, that yesterday's game was one that he should have poked his head up and shown what he can do.
Nobody has mentioned him so I take it he didn't go that well, maybe playing himself out of a contract?
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| What about a win to try sell some season tickets ,After all this is a business
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| Yea I thought it was a chance for young goulding to shine but I'm afraid he didn't do his cause much good in open play he was inconspicuous and his few kicks were tame efforts ,I'm afraid sadly we won't have the youngster much longer
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Quote ="asmadasa"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rl-headlines/video-is-this-the-quickest-try-every-scored-in-rugby-league-history-1-6369922
Not a great pass or attempt to catch the ball......
www.featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=12614'"
How embarrassing atleast it was only a friendly
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Not a great pass or attempt to catch the ball......
www.featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=12614'"
How embarrassing atleast it was only a friendly
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| Positives from yesterday:
Annakin - Ran hard and put a few players on their backside. Good leg drive and good upper body strength.
D Smith - Showed up well, made good yards.
Fox - Not a favorite of mine, but was solid and looked busy.
Collis - A few moments of class and made a few breaks.
A few players I found hard to judge:
Kirmond - Definitely not one of his 'shining days' but he did put the effort in. Could have been penalised a fair few times.
Goulding - I can remember him coming on, but the game was pretty much buried, did throw a nice pass to Fox near the end.
Sykes - Shocking at SO but two try savers at FB.
But like people have said only a friendly. Hopefully the gentleman from overseas arrive soon. More competition, more at stake and hopefully better performances =).
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| Quote ="try scorer"You never fail to amaze me vasty, a training game ,agar wouldn't be bothered if we won or lost,gained a treasure load of info,what a joke ,reality would have wanted to win desperately,won't use much of the info he's gained he'll still pick mathers,don't you think the reason why he made so many changes at prop was that tha fev pack was giving us the runaround,a couple of plusses for me among our pack were Dan smith and an akin I liked the way smith handled and offloaded . Another point vasty if you want to test your players you don't have them playing teams like chorley,I agree that wouldn't have done hull kr much good but you can't compare that with our game against fev which was a true test,oh no we wanted to win and your attempt to make little of it won't wash with me'"
Mopsey - do you really think I care if it washes with you?
It's all theories nothing more - why you feel yours is more valid than the rest of us I do t know. I can only assume with your level of knowledge you must have turned the England job down numerous times, presumedly because you were so busy advising Wayne Bennett - is this so?
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Fair play to them! We should do the same.
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Fair play to them! We should do the same.
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| They will be showing a re-run of the previous fixture again on Monday evenings.
Something the club have done in the past and will continue to do in the future.
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| Quote ="Chris.Taylor"They will be showing a re-run of the previous fixture again on Monday evenings.
Something the club have done in the past and will continue to do in the future.'" how many reruns can the club do
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