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| Bet he is samoan Ned
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I really hope you're not expecting cooper Cronk........'"
Our last Cooper was Gary, but we've had dozens of Cronks.
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| Well the 15k with benefits is far from what was has been mentioned before I still think it's still shy of being the complete package to encourage a player to knuckle down and work harder if there's other clubs willing to dangle a carrot.
On today's ideals most employers are looking for that bit extra and when players (Mellers for instance) just turn up and under perform it grates on the fans to see money just being wasted, why can't players be on a fixed pay with the old fashioned win/lose bonus, what was wrong with that system. Can anyone enlighten why we should pay to see under performance games surely in incentive to win would build that pay packet that they want
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| Quote ="snowie"Well the 15k with benefits is far from what was has been mentioned before I still think it's still shy of being the complete package to encourage a player to knuckle down and work harder if there's other clubs willing to dangle a carrot.
On today's ideals most employers are looking for that bit extra and when players (Mellers for instance) just turn up and under perform it grates on the fans to see money just being wasted, why can't players be on a fixed pay with the old fashioned win/lose bonus, what was wrong with that system. Can anyone enlighten why we should pay to see under performance games surely in incentive to win would build that pay packet that they want'"
Hard to get a mortgage etc when all your money is in win bonus, and you get nothing in off season.
Reason it worked in the old days was that most were part time and had a different regular income.
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| Quote ="snowie"Well the 15k with benefits is far from what was has been mentioned before I still think it's still shy of being the complete package to encourage a player to knuckle down and work harder if there's other clubs willing to dangle a carrot.
On today's ideals most employers are looking for that bit extra and when players (Mellers for instance) just turn up and under perform it grates on the fans to see money just being wasted, why can't players be on a fixed pay with the old fashioned win/lose bonus, what was wrong with that system. Can anyone enlighten why we should pay to see under performance games surely in incentive to win would build that pay packet that they want'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"Hard to get a mortgage etc when all your money is in win bonus, and you get nothing in off season.
Reason it worked in the old days was that most were part time and had a different regular income.'" so rent and play to win, easy isn't it
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| I think the big point is being missed here. We offerred as much as we could afford!! And we weren't prepared to go any higher. The same happened with Jamie Langley. We lost out on him salary wise for 2k. But it was 2k too much.
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| And you will get no thanks from some of the Wally's on here for sticking to your guns, good decision for me. I would be happy to see Liam and Langley here but not on more than we can afford well done MC.
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| Good to see the club stick to its guns and not get into a bidding war. We can only spend what we have to spend. How are the visa applications going for the 2 new Aussies?
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| Everyone has a price. Its all about value for money. If you paid an extra couple of grand on all signings we'd be back in the brown stuff again.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I think the big point is being missed here. We offerred as much as we could afford!! And we weren't prepared to go any higher. The same happened with Jamie Langley. We lost out on him salary wise for 2k. But it was 2k too much.'"
That's ok sticking to a fixed figure, but how is a players ability determines his salary and to lose out by 2k
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| Matt Ryan's is done. Still awaiting Scott Anderson's
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| Not rocket science snowie, we can't afford so we don't buy.
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| Quote ="inside man"And you will get no thanks from some of the Wally's on here for sticking to your guns, good decision for me. I would be happy to see Liam and Langley here but not on more than we can afford well done MC.'"
I agree
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| Quote ="inside man"Not rocket science snowie, we can't afford so we don't buy.'"
Quite understand that and have no problems with this ideal of how to run a club in difficult times but my question is who makes a players salary, how does and agent have powers over a player that makes two grand the difference between signing or not.
How a players value determines his salary will be by the interest of market just like any other commodity this where we are in a conundrum, is it worth taking a risk by drawing up contracts that allows a larger bonus say when we reach a top eight place at the end of the season.
The big question is where the hell has all the support gone from the last season ticket holders
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| The thing that determines his value is how much we can afford.
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| Quote ="inside man"The thing that determines his value is how much we can afford.'"
That's his value to us - and sometimes you need someone else to put a value on you - as a check if you like. If someone else values you more, then you have a choice - just as happened here.
A little sadness, but no drama.
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| Lets not forget if we had offered Langley his extra £2K his parasite would have gone back to the other club and informed them of this and tried to get them to up their offer.
The reason why many clubs are struggling is because too many average players are being paid far more than their true worth.
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| Thanks forthe updates MC and for standing firm with the financial situation. Really pleases me that we are now being run professionally. I really wish more people would now get their hands in their pockets and get a ST bought!
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| Slight hiccup, nothing major, it will be next week before announcement
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Slight hiccup, nothing major, it will be next week before announcement'"
Cooper Cronk having second thoughts?
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| No toner in the printer
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Slight hiccup, nothing major, it will be next week before announcement'"
You're just saving it up so you don't have to get us another Christmas present aren't you?
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I am presuming so, seen as his agent never came back to me?'"
Sounda about right for the lovely Martin Shuttleworth. One a always a .
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