Are you suggesting he gathers a team who don't want to follow him?
Seems to me a team of yes men, when you are asking them to run through brick walls is exactly what you need.

Saturday's game gives Molloy, Mariano an Mellars a big chance to put themselves top of the list for regular first team selection. Would like to see Mellars back in the centre. A full game from Mariano, and Molloy to play at least an hour.

Of FM I would say that it takes 2 to tango. Perhaps FM does need to up his game, but perhaps also - after a year and a half of being a second choice - he feels a little let down and disconnected from the club / coaching staff? I really don't know. I would also note that there is nothing to suggest or confirm that FM may be leaving - just people putting 2 and 2 together....

Of LW I would note that the kid has issues away from the rugby field which are personal and important to him. I don't think lack of ability comes into it, but perhaps RL is not his immediate priority in life.

Listening to some Fev fans at work Frankie is heading their way.

Maybe - I think it would be a shame, but then I don't know how serious the situation has become.

If he goes, we move on. We've let better go!

No I am not, its a tricky area to be honest. At the top level of any sport you will have disagreement's within the squad and between players and coaches. That on its own is not enough to drop/bench a player. A case point would by the England cricket team and KP. It just seems to me that some players under Agar get a very limited look in, e.g. Mellars and Mariano, Andy Ellis, Steve Southern (did he even actually get a game at second row), Walshaw... While others regardless of performances continue to stay in the first 17.

Oh and Vastman, I use the name 4foxsake as he is one of my sporting heroes, because I am proud that he played for my city's team and quite simply because I like the saying! But in future I will remember to ask your permission.

In a nutshell this.

Hope Mariano pulls up trees this weekend, stays and knuckles down. He has real ability as well as the obvious strength, size and speed for a big bloke. Just not consistent enough at minute. Also hope Molloy is a master piee of a signing although still don't understand it would have preferred another prop like Poore.

I don't think it's an either/or - if we've signed Molloy and are letting someone go to make room, that won't stop us looking to bring in another prop; it may even help, given that Molloy will doubtless be cheaper than either of the players who are rumoured to be on the way out. It might even free up some resource to secure Anakin for example, which seems to be almost universally regarded as a good idea.

Just can't think who LW is TRB.
Can you remind me please?

Lucas Walshaw?

Trouble with mariano is he doesn't have the heart or toughness needed. When the going gets tough watch him disappear or skulk off injured. Catalans away this season a prime example. If he had the balls of Cockayne or fox he wouldn't be with us now as he no doubt has great ability and can run some superb lines which combined with his pace and power can make him a devastating attacking player

Thats just it isn't it. Is hearts not in game for Wakefield. 100% agree.

Not just wakey mate it's a toughness thing if you ask me. Whether its mental toughness or physical I'm not sure probably a bit of both. If you're mentally tough tho u can overcome pain

When Mariano was in his first year went to Catalan and we beat them with kids he showed balls then - SHORT MEMORIES NO SUBSTANTIAL FACTS JUST HEAR SAY.The Fox has is right hes not one of Agars YES men. TRB understands deep down hes just scared to say. Vastman is very blinkered unforunatly would rather rage a war against me.

What?

NGB4C.for heavens sake make your posts clear -the fox has is right - what the hells that supposed to mean.

Get a grip you fool!
Just hear say but from lots of different sources - have you ever heard the saying "there's no smoke without fire"??

And it burns burns burns, the ring of fire, the ring of fire!

2 tries on debut, not bad.

Put a good shift in especially as he has been out of the game so long. I think it was him that also ran on and took our kick off in the second half

It was N. 30

I think it was Ben Shulver who got to and took the kick off. I thought all the youngsters showed up well, Shulver, Maskill, Cowling and Kay all did well.
Molloy did very well and was a very willing worker, more so than Frankie IMO (although he did take his try very well) . I have to say that in the first half I thought Mariano was conspicuous by the lack of work he got through (although he did make two or three strong runs he really had a chance to prove Agar wrong and didnt grasp it fully ). His second half performance was better but I was hoping for more from him really.

Promising start, he was limping midway through the second half though. Hope he can pick up his fitness up and make a good career for himself.