It's already here!

Given the ball away early again.

Give them a break, Wigan are in a purple patch and have creamed most teams, we aren't doing the best the last few weeks but by the sounds of it we are pulling together. The last thing we need with a few players getting injured is the fans turning. Blimey we have been much much worse than this.

How is it cobblers? I said PLAYING with injured players. Loads playing with jabs to get them through games and people being brought back too early or not 100% fit. I'd bet that's the reason kirmond was again missing today.

Exactly, nevermind the negatives, HKR 84-6 at their place and we aren't doing that bad to be honest at Wigans place. Aswell as being with 12 men.

Aiton in again.

But he's not SL standard!

Sounds like the lads are doing a decent job against an on-fire Wigan side?

Got to credit them for not throwing the towel in though, this could have ended up embarrassing but they dug in. Just wish we could play a little bit smarter at times.

I'm not turning on them and it's not based on one game - we have played poorly all season - even in London - and we have brought the punishment on ourselves. If we could reduce the number of stupid penalties and poor handling errors then we CAN compete with the best, but until we learn to do that then we will be down amongst the deadmen!

It's frustrating!

He is



They have dug in and good on em, never easy one man down.

Of course you are not, like you say its just frustrating watching a team that seems to beat itself at times.

No more Wakey, make that the last one.

What happened with the sending off - justified?

Then we need to use the squad better - I'd rather see us play a couple more young-uns if players aren't fit.

Kirmond was crocked in Mondays game.

IF we had done the job on Monday and against Salford then today would be easier to swallow. I know things could change around, but can we honestly turn up to any game and be sure of a performance at the moment?

I agree. But if injured players are playing, they take it in the neck if they are not playing as well as they can, it could look like they are not trying etc. not really fair on them. But I hear your frustrations.

Game over. 24 points put on Wigan with 12 men. Not many teams can do that.

Wins for hull, widnes & hull kr. Not a good day us.

Sounded like a brave effort.
Credit due for not caving in.

Cannot be too hard on Poore, he cannot be expected to just stand and take a punch, and according to commentary Farrell should have gone as well for throwing first punch.

Even more reason to control the ball better than we are - especially as our defence is soft this year.

Yes, we can score points and today was a case in point, but we didn't give ourselves a chance right from the kick-off.

Too right, what i can't work out is why we got a penalty for it.

Big win for Widnes - anyone fancy our chance there?

Retaliation for the alleged lead with the elbow, Farrell hit Poore so Poore leathered him

OK ta, lets hope no elbow was used.

But doesn't explain why we got the penalty

Ref didn't give the pen for the alleged elbow and Farrell retaliated, the first offence was Farrells punch.