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| Quote ="PHe"At other grounds eg Hull, Wigan supporters are 'searched' for bottles and cans, including looking in bags etc. prior to ground entry. I suspect that the north stand terrace will be littered with the aforementioned items.'"
It was a right mess, but I only saw plastic bottles and pint pots on the floor.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"
It wasn't that bad really and we were stood in the middle of it, speaking to some Cas fans who thought it was ridiculous as well'"
Obviously you have a lot lower standards than most of us then!
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| how can anyone blame RW for this happening? he fought for his right and the fans right to stand where we have always stood. Just because you have put up a roof means we get huddled into a corner? NO, we have the right to stand in the AWAY stand.
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| Quote ="castigersdave"how can anyone blame RW for this happening? he fought for his right and the fans right to stand where we have always stood. Just because you have put up a roof means we get huddled into a corner? NO, we have the right to stand in the AWAY stand.'"
There is no away stand at Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="J.T"There is no away stand at Belle Vue.'"
I've stood behind sticks for 20 years so what does that make me an away fan!!! NO IT MEANS I STAND WHERE I WANT TO!!!
However after the mindless idiots last night i agree with putting away fans in the standing area under the east stand.
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| Quote ="J.T"There is no away stand at Belle Vue.'"
I've stood behind sticks for 20 years so what does that make me an away fan!!! NO IT MEANS I STAND WHERE I WANT TO!!!
However after the mindless idiots last night i agree with putting away fans in the standing area under the east stand.
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| Quote ="trinwildcat10"I've stood behind sticks for 20 years so what does that make me an away fan!!! NO IT MEANS I STAND WHERE I WANT TO!!!
However after the mindless idiots last night i agree with putting away fans in the standing area under the east stand.'"
what about the fans who have stood in that area for 30 years ? that is the problem all Wakey fans have their favourite spot. Its the idiots we need to get rid of . A zero tolerance of any abusive language, drunkeness and taunting of other fans needs to be applied. We should be allowed to stand side by side with opposing fans as we have done for over 130 years.
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| Quote ="C.o.C_is_Back"The photo is on facebook,taken by a friend,who came close to having HER front teath knocked out by this t#8t..and his mates and other family members...'"
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| Quote ="trinwildcat10"I've stood behind sticks for 20 years so what does that make me an away fan!!! NO IT MEANS I STAND WHERE I WANT TO!!!
However after the mindless idiots last night i agree with putting away fans in the standing area under the east stand.'"
I agree or controversially West for bigger followings , the Wheldon road end has become a recognised home stand by intimidation, let's not go there with the North.
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| Quote ="youngcat"i am sorry but it was our fans who were throwing bottles, they deserved to get thrown out. Hope they get banned forever. The club do not need these mindless idiots.'"
Well all I can say is you need to get to spec-savers mate because I was stood with a police sargent who is a cas fan, and a cas fan with his cas shirt on who claimed he was a doorman and a member of the RFL and they witness it too so (Cas fans throwing and charging Wakefield fans) what do you say now youngcat that the Cas Fan the Police and me are telling a fib Both sets of fans had idiots that day and both should get a ban...
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| Saw this coming a mile off, the only thing you can blame is mindless drunken =#FF0000EDIT that have been drinking all day and can't hold their ale. Segregation or not, crappy slogan or not....there was always going to be a big chance of this happening in a heated derby match on a bank holiday!
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We don't use that word on here thanks.
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| Will 300 drunken Salford fans behind the sticks behave next home match? Like I said before, under the roof atmosphere rises tenfold, so does adrenaline. I've witnessed a minor skirmish behind the sticks when we've played Salford in the past when both sets of fans were goading each other for a while.
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| I'm standing North every home game from now on....
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| Quote ="trinwildcat10"I've stood behind sticks for 20 years so what does that make me an away fan!!! NO IT MEANS I STAND WHERE I WANT TO!!!
However after the mindless idiots last night i agree with putting away fans in the standing area under the east stand.'"
let ALL fans stand where they want at Belle Vue I stand under the East stand and have done for 37 years the time to have an away end will come when we move to Newmarket and not before
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| i thought you wakie fans was gonna fill north stand up i guess not cas fans pretty much filled it up and the idiot wkaie fans was right at end of north stand
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| Many mistakes made re last nights game:
1 - KO Time: Far too late, many fans hammered even before kick off. An earlier midday kick off would have helped reduce this problem.
2 - North Stand Segregation Debacle: An idiot could see this was a recipe for disaster combined with the late KO time. Shocking decision!
3 - Lack Of Police/Stewards: No idea who does the security planning and resource allocation but they want shooting. Someone could have got very seriously hurt due to this last night.
Lots of mistakes made......
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| Quote ="wildycat"I'm standing North every home game from now on....'"
Deffo, never heard an atmosphere like it at BV.
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| Think Khav was right, in that there was a unique set of circumstances that led to last night. Had the first game been against Salford or Huddersfield, there would have been no need to issue the demand for segregation, and everyone would have gathered where they wanted under the stand. Once the club issued the request for segregation, they should have stuck to it properly, and said no away fans in the North Stand. I agree with Cas fans that this should not be how it is, but the concession mid-week, prompted by RW's rant, was partially to blame, because the stand was split 60-40 in Cas's favour (because the home fans had the half where the top of the terrace reduces). Segregation should have been all or nothing. The decision to insist it on it was the wrong one, and then the decision to cave in to that oaf was another wrong one.
The problem is that I thought one of the whole points of the roof was to provide a more pleasant atmosphere for the away fans to encourage away fans, as well as placate the RFL. Why all the effort to create a "kop" in a ground that we are aiming to be out of by the end of next year?
A new campaign for me:
LET THEM HAVE THE NORTH
I'm sure those at the top will look back and say that they got it wrong but acted with the best of intentions. I would agree with that, but still wrong.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Deffo, never heard an atmosphere like it at BV.'"
The sad truth is it won't exist for much longer if the team continues to perform like it has for the last two games as fans will soon stop coming....
Were in serious danger of undoing so much good work off the field with poor on the field performances....
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| I am a Cas fan and i have posted the following on our forum - because as i see it we (as in the posters on here and our forum) need to name and shame regardless of which team the trouble causers support
=#0000BFWow the inquest begins... and this is how i see it
The fault can be dished out in many directions:
Andrew Glover - lets all move to the tin roof he should have said nothing and let the wakey fans make their own decision as to where the home crowd would like to stand, his idea caused friction.
The ground staff - anyone who was turning up at the turnstiles after having a skin full should have been refused entry
The ground security - a couple of our own stewards were there and offered their service for free before the start of the game only to be told we don't need any help, which seems a stupid statement to make as when the police turned up a comment from a few of the police officers said the organisation of the stewards had been a joke.
However the biggest blame goes to the idiots who decided to turn up and turn a family sporting event into a war zone, many comments saying that the people who were ejected were from the Wakey section but regardless of who they support Cas Wakey or any other game we do not want them at our games and supporters of both teams need to make sure that when we see unacceptable behaviour that it is reported regardless of the colour shirt they are wearing or the team they are supporting.
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| There was many fans posting on here, facebook and Twitter saying 'make the north stand wakey only' so you cant blame Glover for giving the fans what they wanted....he was just trying to increase the home atmosphere at Belle Vue and rightly so! It's alright saying in hindsight 'this was bound to happen with segregation', but this doesn't happen at other grounds that separate the two sets of supporters. Dont blame the club, blame the idiots who can't hold their ale!!
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"It is pointless pointing the finger at either set of fans as being responsible in my opinion. No-one can honestly say that one set of fans behaved better than another. Those who threw things, goaded and charged at other fans: you are a disgrace, whoever you follow. Those of us who are rightminded should not get drawn into a whose fans were worst argument; both sides had fans who behaved appallingly. For me, both CEO's have a lot of explaining to do. The way this whole thing has been handled is nothing short of a joke. Tonight was a very sad day for RL in my opinion and both sides should hang their heads in shame.'"
Agreed. From a position right behind it, there were elements who were embarrassing on both sides. Aside from the knuckledraggers and beer-fuelled juvenille fighting cocks, who are obvious scum, what really saddened me was the grown men on both sides who one minute were appealing to stewards to sort it, pointing out miscreants, then the next minute adding to the goading, pushing and inflammatory chanting.
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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"The sad truth is it won't exist for much longer if the team continues to perform like it has for the last two games as fans will soon stop coming....
Were in serious danger of undoing so much good work off the field with mickey poor on the field performances....'"
Agreed, can see attendances dropping off now. Plenty of lot in north stand last night won't come back, seems they just come out for this one game.
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| Worth pointing out that there weren't any Cas fans in Chav Corner, so we know who was to blame for the pint thrown over the crowd and towards Rangi Chase. Players like Owen don't help, gesturing towards the fans when he scored, but I can take stuff like that in good humour. And of course there was the cross-biting neanderthal in front of me who was offering out an elderly gent and a woman because they accidentally knocked the dregs of his pint from the railing.
Good Friday has turned into a day on the lash. Lunchtime kick off please in future.
But the queue never went down for the beer kiosk so someone will be happy.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Apparently a number of known Featherstone Rovers "fans" were stood amongst the Wakefield fans tonight.'"
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