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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it?'"
Aside from all the other drivel you post, are you seriously suggesting that Leeds are one of your main rivals?
Delusions of grandeur over 'Ull way, without a doubt.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"In november we had a fans forum,which was attended by Gentle,McCrae and Pearson.Us fans were more than shocked to hear Pearson publicly state that along with Kath,Agar was instrumental in leeds signing Luke Briscoe from ourselves.Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it? I'm quite certain that if this was you're club you would be up in arms wanting to know why,and also i don't think Glover would be happy either! These revelations from our new owner came out after he had signed a contract at wakefield.I wonder how Glover felt after finding out? He obviously wouldn't say things publicly,but i reckon after that and now the drugs fiasco,he must have twitchy feet? Time will tell if Kath and Agar are to be questioned by the rfl over the Gleeson affair?'"
Dearie me
Lets see what happens on the pitch under your new regime so far your not pulling up any trees I can see in signings etc.
Regardless of who is to blame Hull are certainly in the limelight for all the wrong reasons at the moment we will see how the new owner etc handles the situation, I have to say your coach and bomber dont inspire me wuth confidence and as for pearson we will se seems the deal but lets wait and see how it pans out.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"We hull fans are happy to have a genuine owner in Pearson after these years of kath .'"
Is this the same genuine owner who,despite newspaper reports,rumour and speculation about Richard Agar going to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats,gave a lengthy denial ?
Is your criticism of Kath the same Kath who was with Shaun McRae at Gateshead Thunder before Hull took the club over ? Did she learn to select a side while McRae was the head coach at both clubs ?
Did Kath recommend Mcrae to Pearson or did he just pick him from a hat,bearing in mind he was initially 'on the sick' at Salford ?
PS - Where was the bugging device positioned for you to hear how Kath ordered Richard Agar to select a certain player ? Alternatively,did you secrete your five bellies in the boardroom or elsewhere ;there could be even more juicy rumours from you ? Alas,none of them anywhere near believable.
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"Is this the same genuine owner who,despite newspaper reports,rumour and speculation about Richard Agar going to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats,gave a lengthy denial ?
Is your criticism of Kath the same Kath who was with Shaun McRae at Gateshead Thunder before Hull took the club over ? [uDid she learn to select a side while McRae was the head coach at both clubs ?[/u
Did Kath recommend Mcrae to Pearson or did he just pick him from a hat,bearing in mind he was initially 'on the sick' at Salford ?
PS - Where was the bugging device positioned for you to hear how Kath ordered Richard Agar to select a certain player ? Alternatively,did you secrete your five bellies in the boardroom or elsewhere ;there could be even more juicy rumours from you ? Alas,none of them anywhere near believable.'"
McCrae left hull at a time when he didn't really want to but felt he had no choice.Certainly happy to return once kath left
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I'd have thought it was a bit soon to say what kind of owner you have yet. If this guy doesn't achieve success that the fans demand, along with the newly appointed coach, the fans will quickly turn.
Seems to have got the Hull fans on side fairly easily by slagging off the last regime and owner.
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The same Pearson that took hull city from liquidation to the championship,from boothferry park to the kc stadium,all within a budget and slim timescale.The same pearson who was asked to return after city got into financial trouble to sort out the mess.The same man who has been vital in terms of sport in hull more than 10 years
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"Is this the same genuine owner who,despite newspaper reports,rumour and speculation about Richard Agar going to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats,gave a lengthy denial ?
Is your criticism of Kath the same Kath who was with Shaun McRae at Gateshead Thunder before Hull took the club over ? Did she learn to select a side while McRae was the head coach at both clubs ?
Did Kath recommend Mcrae to Pearson or did he just pick him from a hat,bearing in mind he was initially 'on the sick' at Salford ?
PS - Where was the bugging device positioned for you to hear how Kath ordered Richard Agar to select a certain player ? Alternatively,did you secrete your five bellies in the boardroom or elsewhere ;there could be even more juicy rumours from you ? Alas,none of them anywhere near believable.'"
You're wasting your time - a small contingent of the Hull faithful, who've cultivated a rather odd and certainly unfounded sense of entitlement (based on the belief that they are a 'big' club) will lay the blame for years of underachievement at whomever's doorstep is most convenient; it's been Agar for a number of years, now it's Uncle Kath and I'm sure that this time next year, it'll be Gentle, his bezzy mate Bomber, or their shared agent, who've engineered a rather comprehensive takeover at the club.
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| Interestingly, if the reported Premiership ruling regards shared stadiums was to ever be sanctioned and come into force, Mr Pearson has manouvered himself into a position where he could remove Hull FC from the KC by accepting a compromise deal to play elsewhere on their behalf.
I've had the pleasure of meeting Pearson on a couple of occasions, granted it was a while ago when he was at Leeds Utd, and while he seems to be a decent fella he was never interested in Rugby League at all! It surprised me when I heard he'd bought into Hull FC because he was adamant all those years ago that he he wasn't interested in any other sports.
Maybe there's an element of pre planning and positioning going on in readiness for a Premiership ruling?
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"Interestingly, if the reported Premiership ruling regards shared stadiums was to ever be sanctioned and come into force, Mr Pearson has manouvered himself into a position where he could remove Hull FC from the KC by accepting a compromise deal to play elsewhere on their behalf.
I've had the pleasure of meeting Pearson on a couple of occasions, granted it was a while ago when he was at Leeds Utd, and while he seems to be a decent fella he was [unever interested in Rugby League at all! It surprised me when I heard he'd bought into Hull FC because he was adamant all those years ago that he he wasn't interested in any other sports.[/u
Maybe there's an element of pre planning and positioning going on in readiness for a Premiership ruling?'"
neither was Glover,but just like you're owner Mrs Pearson and their 2 daughters are hugely into RL.
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"Interestingly, [uif the reported Premiership ruling regards shared stadiums was to ever be sanctioned and come into force, Mr Pearson has manouvered himself into a position where he could remove Hull FC from the KC by accepting a compromise deal to play elsewhere on their behalf.[/u
I've had the pleasure of meeting Pearson on a couple of occasions, granted it was a while ago when he was at Leeds Utd, and while he seems to be a decent fella he was never interested in Rugby League at all! It surprised me when I heard he'd bought into Hull FC because he was adamant all those years ago that he he wasn't interested in any other sports.
Maybe there's an element of pre planning and positioning going on in readiness for a Premiership ruling?'"
All hearsay,which will never come to fruition.This all stems from the pitch at the DW stadium,but the pitch at the kc is always top standard.Why would it affect us at the kc? Hull city don't own it no more than we do.Both clubs pay an even rent to the ''council'' owned stadium.Mr Allam,city's owner did want the stadium,but wanted it for free,so he could finance against it to build on,for which the council sent him packing.I doubt the stadium will ever be sold at any time due to it being paid for by hull peoples money (kc shares issue).
The DW is owned by Whelan,unlike the kc,which is owned by the local authority
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"All hearsay,which will never come to fruition.This all stems from the pitch at the DW stadium,but the pitch at the kc is always top standard.Why would it affect us at the kc? Hull city don't own it no more than we do.Both clubs pay an even rent to the ''council'' owned stadium.Mr Allam,city's owner did want the stadium,but wanted it for free,so he could finance against it to build on,for which the council sent him packing.I doubt the stadium will ever be sold at any time due to it being paid for by hull peoples money (kc shares issue).
The DW is owned by Whelan,unlike the kc,which is owned by the local authority'"
But that doesn't stop Pearson, acting as soccer boss, from formulating an offer to the Rugby League club which would see them receive a cash offer to move out and then Pearson, acting as Rugby boss, accepting his own offer and Hull FC vacating the KC.
Strange and unethical but we've certainly seen similar things happen in sport, Rugby League, even at Wakefield and even at Hull FC. Look at the wrangle going on at the Galpharm with respect to Davy's strange Aquisition of Huddersfield Towns shareholding of the stadium.
Never underestimate the power of money on the decision making of an individual.
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| It may be hearsay but it's an issue that keeps coming back up time after time after time!
There's no doubt whatsoever that soccer bosses would love to have soccer stadiums with no one else, no other sport being payed there. There's equally no doubt that the FA Premier league will one day, sooner or later, pass legislation that their clubs must play in soccer stadiums and no other sports are to use their facilities.
If Hull City were to win promotion under such legislation do you really think that Pearson would turn down the £millions they'd earn just to keep the FC faithfull happy?
Of course he wouldn't and he's cleverly put himself into a situation where he would/could make all the important decisions regarding the offer and acceptance of a deal which would see FC vacate the KC.
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| What I dont get is if Pearson has all the evidence of the Brisco to Leeds fiasco why are we not seeing Leeds/Kath/Agar etc being hauled before the courts and Redhall ?
If you were in his position with that you would be looking to get compensation and it never happening again.Not spouting to a set of fans and doing your case harm by doing so.
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| the most frustrating thing about Briscoe from a Wakefield point of view is that he was another young player in the Wakefield system that was unable to be retained.
Players like Milner, Smith, Hampshire, holmes, etc all gone. I hope this is a priority of mr glover to address as the real young quality is in the catchment area.
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| Quote ="les-goose"What I dont get is if Pearson has all the evidence of the Brisco to Leeds fiasco why are we not seeing Leeds/Kath/Agar etc being hauled before the courts and Redhall ?
If you were in his position with that you would be looking to get compensation and it never happening again.Not spouting to a set of fans and doing your case harm by doing so.'"
Pearson, i believe has reported them to the relevant bodies.The likelihood of Kath or even Gary being welcomed into the boardroom by adam are very slim!
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| Quote ="jonh"the most frustrating thing about Briscoe from a Wakefield point of view is that he was another young player in the Wakefield system that was unable to be retained.
Players like Milner, Smith, Hampshire, holmes, etc all gone. I hope this is a priority of mr glover to address as the real young quality is in the catchment area.'"
Think you will find Briscoe was signed by Leeds from Hull not Wakey but RA taking the flack from FC fans HTH
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Think you will find Briscoe was signed by Leeds from Hull not Wakey but RA taking the flack from FC fans HTH'"
I think you will find Briscoe was brought through the Scholarship at Wakefield, prior to signing for Hull. I'm not that sad to hth.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Pearson, i believe has reported them to the relevant bodies.The likelihood of Kath or even Gary being welcomed into the boardroom by adam are very slim!'"
I love the way you talk about these people as if they're all personal acquaintances - it's quite sweet, in a slightly stalkerish kind of way.
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| In other news - a story in the Hull local rag suggests that the RFL will take no further action against the club. If true, the RFL proves itself to be spineless and hypocritical; Fatty Woods stated publicly the other day that the club had brought the game into disrepute - despite that, they let UKAD do their dirty work and take no action themselves? At best, that shows profound weakness at the RFL.
A few clubs, not least Cas, will have a right to feel profoundly aggrieved; they were fined 40 grand for the actions of a few fans that was outside their control, whereas Hull suffer no penalty for the actions of 3 of their paid officers that was very much within their control. It's potical.
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| Quote ="bren2k"
A few clubs, not least Cas, will have a right to feel profoundly aggrieved; they were fined 40 grand for the actions of a few fans that was outside their control, whereas Hull suffer no penalty for the actions of 3 of their paid officers that was very much within their control. It's potical.'"
I did mention this earlier in the thread and TBH if I was a Cas supporter I'd be shouting for action once again the RFL show their inconsistency in dealing with the running of the game, it was the RFL's words "Bringing the Game of RL in to disrepute" hypocritical IMHO
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| Quote ="jonh"I think you will find Briscoe was brought through the Scholarship at Wakefield, prior to signing for Hull. I'm not that sad to hth.'"
Apoligies if thats the case but he left Hull for Leeds
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The same Pearson that took hull city from liquidation to the championship,from boothferry park to the kc stadium,all within a budget and slim timescale.The same pearson who was asked to return after city got into financial trouble to sort out the mess.The same man who has been vital in terms of sport in hull more than 10 years
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Eh? what has any of that got to do with what I've typed, or are you saying because of all these interesting things, you lot won't turn on him if your around the middle of the table for the next 3 years.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Apoligies if thats the case but he left Hull for Leeds'"
I can assure you it is the case I had the fortune to coach him in that system for a couple of years. No need to apologise by the way.
All I was trying to say there is a great debate going on about him moving from Hull to Leeds and in my opinion the real debate should be why was he allowed to leave Wakefield so easily. I appreciate money was a factor but given where Wakefield are now with a 3 year security blanket it's time to give a bit more to the kids that have been allowed to walk without too much of a fight.
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| Quote ="jonh"All I was trying to say there is a great debate going on about him moving from Hull to Leeds'"
In fairness, that's only coming from certain obsessed Hull fans who can't let go of their Agar fatwa, although admittedly, it's being fuelled by the daft ranting of their new owner; if I were RA, I'd be having a word with my legal bods.
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| Quote ="jonh"I can assure you it is the case I had the fortune to coach him in that system for a couple of years. No need to apologise by the way.
All I was trying to say there is a great debate going on about him moving from Hull to Leeds and in my opinion the real debate should be why was he allowed to leave Wakefield so easily. I appreciate money was a factor but given where Wakefield are now with a 3 year security blanket it's time to give a bit more to the kids that have been allowed to walk without too much of a fight.'"
The club 1873 scheme will hopefully help us keep more of our promising youngsters
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| Quote ="bren2k"If I were RA, I'd be having a word with my legal bods.'"
If I were Agar, I'd just get on with guiding us to a mid-table finish, the first step in a rebirth, and deal with any anti-Hull feeling the same way Kear did: beat them on his first return there.
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