Wwildcat48 - not being funny mate but that's your first post and you expect us to take that as fact

Fwiw my opinion is we should the trust the people who's job it is to build the team to to do there job, far too early to see the big picture, with a new coach bound to be changes. Judge the team in Jan/Feb not now, far too early

No offence but I doubt the integrity of your post. Classic troll for me.

OK you are at it again, Smurph stayed this season becuase Hudds offered him a deal but would not have got their side this season, he accepetd the deal in the belief that Wakey would not get a franchise, hey presto we do

As I keep reminding you please go 8 miles

I am sure Cas would would welcome you invaluable input and magnificent support of your team

Most seem happy with the total deal done with shuds, but taking the Murphy deal seperate let me ask a couple of questions.

Are we happy we have brought in 2 overseas centres and sold our own local produced player?

The 1873 club was set up to produce AND retain top juniors, where does the schemes involment finish with these players?

Knowing a little about Murph, I don't believe he would have left without a little cohersion from certain partys.

Anyway the deal is done now, I just hope that the longer term benefits are to the club advantage.


Foot note
If we have chosen not to signed Tongia, I think the club have made a grave error, the guy had class written all over him with much, much more to come.

I dont give a rats what you think mate, let me give you the tip.....players and their friends and family read some of the that is posted on here by people who know absolutely nothing at all, and just waste their life making wild guesses and assumptions.
This was about transfer fee and being able to strengthen the squad which is understandable but not twisting the whole thing to suit and save face.

yep just like Ted

I am sure that there will be more comings and goings before the season as there will be with all Super League clubs and I am also sure that our squad will have a stronger look to it by the first game of the season than it currently does.

I'm sure you agree that respect is hard earned, and while everyone at the club IMO is doing a sterling job, that doesn't mean that every decision should be blindly followed.
What's best for the club, is what matters, not the individual and not necessarily what fans agree with.
I remember Keegan getting flagged off on the steps of St James park, when he sold Andy Cole, the rabble were quick to go quiet when he signed Alan Shearer.
Sometimes you have to be prepared to make a sacrifice to go forward, in the case of AM, a fee for team strengthening plus the addition of two decent squad players is a result as far as I can see.
Fans forget that to the people who have to balance the books and make the club progress have to view it with at least one eye on business, not both eyes on fanaticism.
Time will tell if this sacrifice has worked, all I can say with any confidence is, we are looking far healthier going into this forthcoming season than when we kicked off at MM, and for now that is progress, but the challenge for all at the club is to keep that progress year on year.

When Leeds say they want him

I would have liked to have kept him but players come and go. I can't remember there being this much aggro over Ellis and Solo who are/were twice the player that Murphy, although admirable in his own right, is

It's the way of life, until things improve substantially, and we are years away from that, but step by step I'm sure we'll get there.

sorry poptart but what wildcat 48 is saying is absolutely 100%. i personally know some of the people involved and his post is correct

I think you're missing the point, it doesn't matter wether he's right or wrong.
What matters is, will we be in a better or worse place as a result of it?
And to be honest we won't know for certain until the end of next season, if we're not then people making the decisions will rightfully get some stick. If we are these criticisms will be forgotten.

I think the point being made isn't about the logic of the deal but the spin being put on why AM left the club. It seems that those in charge knew there'd be a backlash to Murphy leaving and so they've lied about him WANTING to go than them selling him against his wishes.

There has been talk for sometime of AM receiving a gift of a car from Hudds a while ago, can anyone shed any light on this?

Smurph wouldnt get infront of Grix??? Why dont you go to Cas seen as you are willing to see our young academy products go and see old crocks come in senior will be next mark my words ... Smurph did not want to go we could have kept him i dont believe for one instant smurph had made his mind up and wanted to go to the crows. Hes been pushed .. We are a feeder club.

I havent read any so I'm not sure, nor have I read anything from AM stating otherwise.

There are many points in this that are untrue. Fact

I see you have thoroughly read the press release like I say Cas

8 miles crack on and support them

As I've posted what seems like a million times already, it's an error to believe that what players or their WAG's, Dads or favourite Uncles tell you is 100% factual; much like the messages that come out of the club, their version of events is based on their own perceptions, opinions and whatever spin they want to convey when they tell you the story.

In this instance, as in almost every other, I'd suggest that the truth is somewhere in the middle of the various versions of events that people have conveyed; some may not agree with the end result, but it's folly to believe that anyone has acted in anything than their own best interests, and that includes the player, his agent and both of the clubs involved.

What most agree on is that Murphy decided to play out the season with WTW during the infamous 'vulture-gate' episode; good for him, it showed class and loyalty and certainly helped our season be marginally less disastrous than it could have been. The rest we'll never know, as it involves wrangling and negotiations between the player and various stakeholders and is, ultimately, private and confidential; the two clubs and the agent won't talk about the details and for mine, neither should the player or his friends and family - it's a bit sordid and disrespectful.

Going forward, I hope we're in a position to be holding on to promising local players like Murphy but in the meantime, as seems to be the case here, I hope that when they do move on to the bright lights of Uncle Ken's monied emporium, they do so in a way that represents good business for WTW; if we're going to replace the Shudds academy set-up, let's at least make them pay top dollar.

It Could turn out like the Rayne Twins deal, None ff us cared for that when it happened but it turned out for the best for the club and that is what we need

One scenario that I don't think has been mentioned is as follows and is a possibility.

Huddersfield approached Murphy while we were in administration but due to Salary Cap restrictions could only offer him a relatively small contract so Murph turned them down. However, on the presumption that we were dead in the water and going down murph agreed to join them at the end of the season on a bumper contract thinking that his contarct with us would be null and void. This was going swimmingly until we git a franchise which threw a spanner in the works.

The club knowing that Murphy wanted to leave were now in a strong bargaining position and were able to negoiate the sale of Murphy for a fee as well as the 2 Huddersfield players.

Looks like a good piece of sensible business to me.

NGB4C - Murphys gone face facts he aint a world class player with a string of top clubs including those down under after him.The club needs strength in depth not a wafer thin squad that cant hold a hope when a couple of players are out.Just suppose some of the money the club got in the deal gets Tongia or another good player on a 2 or3 year deal now that would be a very good deal.Now get your head out of your hands wipe your tears away SMURFFS GONE.

Not my fight BUT lets say we sign Tongia (who i think would be ok) that'll be another none GB along with the two Aussie centres who have replaced AM and LG.

Its the bigger picture that concerns me, Sandal says it'll give Walshaw a better chance and it will but it will be second fiddle to the 2 Aussies.

I understand players come and go but i don't like replacing OUR OWN with imports, it kinda defeats the object does it not.

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