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| This is a typical WAkefield error and a trait what the Richardsons did. Mr Glover im dissapointed if true !!! SMurph we have trained using our resources he will be a top player he will been playing with total below average players this year bare 3 or 4 !!! If we get Raleigh who shudds dont want then why cant we just sign him if we really want him??? Kirmond shudds dont want why cant we just sign him if they want to free up space??? Its not having a crush on murphy you doghnut you dont look at the bigger picture !!!
[size=150SAME OLD IM AFFRAID........................................ POOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/size
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| I must also add that whilst it has been said that Murphy has been touted for international recognition, Kirmond before he had a bad injury was on the verge of an international call up a couple of years ago.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Whilst I am dissapointed that it looks like going, it is not the end of the world. We have 2 good centres in Collis and Mellars and also Murphy going could well mean that Walshaw gets more game time.'"
I'd rather it was either Mellars or Collis who weren't at the club as opposed to Murphy.
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| Ateotd Murphy has played half a season, will be recovering all off season with his injury.
He has not been as effective this year and maybe that is because of a lack of quality around him in2011. You could argue that for alot of players in trinity 2011.
It's not pleasing losing a player who's developed at the club but if it's time for a change so be it.
The squad is shaping up nicely. We are sorted now for second row.
Just one or two threequarters, 2 props and a half please.
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| I think this is bad but I don't think we can really pass on any judgements until after the squad is fully assembled, let's at least wait and see what the next few weeks bring.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Not sure they'll be first on the sheet. Southern mariano Ali lau washbrook cowling etc might have something to say about that. Not saying they're bad players but were not short in the back row which is where these two play, this is the reason why I believe this is a bum deal for us. Has agar had any input in to this deal? Tbh I can't see that he has were short of quality three quarters and over loaded with back rowers'"
Dont waste your breath mate vastman as the disease of if he is wrong he won't admit it unfortunatly it is called the disease of : - STUBBORN SOD WONT BUDGE EVEN WHEN WRONG DISEASE IT IS QUITE CONTAGIOUS.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Sorry but no great loss,defence is sound but total lack of pace and cannot understand why Shudds would want him. If he stayed he would have been third choice centre, and second or third choice full back, if all the rumours are to be believed .'"
You having a laugh, Smurf work rate is second to none, some people have very short memories it would have been so easy for him to walk when Fergy jumped ship when we were in Admin at the start of the year, but he said i will stay and help my team mates, now he should be rewarded for that, he will never be a world beater but he is hell of a squad player, Shudd's are like vultures, long gone are the days when we had to sell players to line Ted's pockets, we are in a new era and need to build a team to compete in SL and that does not mean taking 3 of Hudd's bench warmers and helping them to improve does it ? AG and RA should tell NB and Davy to p#ss off and go circle over somewhere else...
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| Totally agree scudley. Even Eddie commented on SKY last night at how many former Wakefield players they have. The first 12 points were all from them!
I'd like to see Murphy playing for us next season and for more to come, but will put my faith in those running the club and look forward to seeing what their squad consists of.
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| Quote ="Mr Slithers" but will put my faith in those running the club and look forward to seeing what their squad consists of.'"
Like we did for the coaching appointment?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Dont waste your breath mate vastman as the disease of if he is wrong he won't admit it unfortunatly it is called the disease of : - STUBBORN SOD WONT BUDGE EVEN WHEN WRONG DISEASE IT IS QUITE CONTAGIOUS.'"
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| Quote ="Mr Slithers"Totally agree scudley. Even Eddie commented on SKY last night at how many former Wakefield players they have. The first 12 points were all from them!
I'd like to see Murphy playing for us next season and for more to come, but will put my faith in those running the club and look forward to seeing what their squad consists of.'"
Total agree with you Slithers, I hope we can keep Murphy and for more than one season. I wonder how difficult it was for Wiggy to get those words out of his mouth.
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| Quote ="vastman"c020.gif'"
Have you appologised to spongbob yet?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Like we did for the coaching appointment?
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You seem a touch bitter my friend.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Like we did for the coaching appointment?
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Slightly o/t but I've got to ask, who would you have gone for mate?
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| Whilst we continue to bend over backwards for Huddersfield why wouldn't they keep coming back to take our most promising youngsters and at the same time dump their fringe players.
At some point, as a club we have to be strong enough to say NO. Now is the perfect time for the new regime to show their ambitions. It that means the player sitting in the stands for a season so be it. Because if we keep relenting to player power, we will keep having these discussions. They signed a contract, they honour it!
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Whilst we continue to bend over backwards for Huddersfield why wouldn't they keep coming back to take our most promising youngsters and at the same time dump their fringe players.
At some point, as a club we have to be strong enough to say NO. Now is the perfect time for the new regime to show their ambitions. It that means the player sitting in the stands for a season so be it. Because if we keep relenting to player power, we will keep having these discussions. They signed a contract, they honour it!'"
Agree with this, the only exceptions are, if we get offered sill money, or they offer good players in return who fill positions we need and they should be the only exceptions.
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| Quote ="Mutley Cat"Have you appologised to spongbob yet?'"
yeah , like that's gonna happen !
I was also told of a signing for next year a couple of days before the Leeds game but told to keep shtum , so I have done.
Would probably get told I'm talking bollix again by the great wise one anyway
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| Quote ="Spongebob"icon_lol.gif yeah , like that's gonna happen !
I was also told of a signing for next year a couple of days before the Leeds game but told to keep shtum , so I have done.
Would probably get told I'm talking bollix again by the great wise one anyway'"
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| Quote ="Mr Slithers"I'd like to see Murphy playing for us next season and for more to come, but will put my faith in those running the club.'"
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Quote ="Shifty Cat"Slightly o/t but I've got to ask, who would you have gone for mate?'"
Let me know the full list of candidates and I'll tell you. Although my point is more regarding the underhand tactics and self gratification of our leaders.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Let me know the full list of candidates and I'll tell you. Although my point is more regarding the underhand tactics and self gratification of our leaders.'"
Well that's just it we don't know the full list, as far as we know he could well be the best applicant.
As far as the second sentence you will have to spell it out for me.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"[uWhilst we continue to bend over backwards for Huddersfield why wouldn't they keep coming back to take our most promising youngsters and at the same time dump their fringe players.[/u
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Thats exactly whats happened here, fringe players in return for Murphy.
When is Walshaw going or any other Wakey youngster who shows he is above average?
In the past we've sold through lack of funds, whats the excuse now.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"eusa_clap.gif Thats exactly whats happened here, fringe players in return for Murphy.
When is Walshaw going or any other Wakey youngster who shows he is above average?
In the past we've sold through lack of funds, whats the excuse now.'"
think looking at a past post it was a done deal last year , maybe the terms have changed maybe not but the source that the poster got it from is as reliable as a Mods ban button
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"eusa_clap.gif Thats exactly whats happened here, fringe players in return for Murphy.
When is Walshaw going or any other Wakey youngster who shows he is above average?
In the past we've sold through lack of funds, whats the excuse now.'"
The sad thing is we will always be a selling club.
Until the people of Wakefield support in sufficient numbers or we gave the financial clout to match those clubs, they will always be able to offer our above average players.
Junior development can be a double edged sword, we can produce the players, but we can't keep them if another club covets them more than we can.
Until we can regularly turnover 2500 plus ST holders every year at higher profit, than we are bravely struggling to do this season, we will always be playing catch up.
There is an argument for not "wasting" money on such junior talent, when you can pick up scraps from other clubs, until we are strong enough to retain our own.
It's not one I personally subscribe to, but none the less it exists from a purely financial point of view.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Well that's just it we don't know the full list, as far as we know he could well be the best applicant.
As far as the second sentence you will have to spell it out for me.'"
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