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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Although the club put their neck on the line with this quote;
=#FF0000[i…we can confirm that the membership will count as part of the criteria.[/i
This could be read a number of way;
[i=#FF0000….this criteria will be reviewed and amended to ensure that Licensing keeps pace with the initiatives of our club.[/i'"
Absolutely. My take is that membership will count as part of the criteria, some time in the future. The statement from the RFL Compliance Manager seems pretty unequivocal to me:
=#FF0000‘“For the current round of Licensing, the number of season ticket holders a club has is a criteria in the assessment of any application."
"However as clubs move to more flexible membership and season ticket arrangements in order to grow their supporter base, this criteria will be reviewed and amended to ensure that Licensing keeps pace with the initiatives of our clubs”.
No time frame here. Just as easy to say "the number of members a club has is a criteria in the assessment of any application". But he didn't say that.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Absolutely. My take is that membership will count as part of the criteria, some time in the future. The statement from the RFL Compliance Manager seems pretty unequivocal to me:
=#FF0000‘“For the current round of Licensing, the number of season ticket holders a club has is a criteria in the assessment of any application."
"However as clubs move to more flexible membership and season ticket arrangements in order to grow their supporter base, this criteria will be reviewed and amended to ensure that Licensing keeps pace with the initiatives of our clubs”.
No time frame here. Just as easy to say "the number of members a club has is a criteria in the assessment of any application". But he didn't say that.'"
…and it’s just as easy to say members don’t count this year but will for future applications. Perhaps they are being deliberately woolly to maintain ambiguity.
In my opinion the thought process of members potentially counting 3 times in order to meet the magic 5000 members/season ticket holders criteria was a little farfetched, but whether the club have interpreted the ruling right or not we will see next Tuesday. Whether they deliberately misdirected people appears to be cleared up as they seem to genuinely believe it does count.
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Quote ="Chris Dalton"Dont be =#FF0000EDIT: patronising! You don't know starbug enough. He talks crap and always has. He is =#FF0000absolutely miserable and pours cold water on every optimist, even those from his own club who=#FF0000 dare to have asprations of super league, which is probably why he considers good diplomacy "ass kissing".
As for learning something from him, if I was in a suicidal mood I might go to him for ideas, but by all means, go the rowley route and dummy spit. See where it gets you.
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Its called ' realism ' , something the fans of Wakefield will shortly have to face , and the fans of Championship clubs have faced for quite a while
And if all the RFL want is a sport of ' YES ' men , then perhaps SL isn't right for much of our sport , thats why we split from Union a hundred odd years ago , because they wanted ' yes ' men rather than the truth
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Quote ="Chris Dalton"Dont be =#FF0000EDIT: patronising! You don't know starbug enough. He talks crap and always has. He is =#FF0000absolutely miserable and pours cold water on every optimist, even those from his own club who=#FF0000 dare to have asprations of super league, which is probably why he considers good diplomacy "ass kissing".
As for learning something from him, if I was in a suicidal mood I might go to him for ideas, but by all means, go the rowley route and dummy spit. See where it gets you.
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Its called ' realism ' , something the fans of Wakefield will shortly have to face , and the fans of Championship clubs have faced for quite a while
And if all the RFL want is a sport of ' YES ' men , then perhaps SL isn't right for much of our sport , thats why we split from Union a hundred odd years ago , because they wanted ' yes ' men rather than the truth
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| But to be honest, whether it is a direct criteria or not (and the rugby league are not particularly clear for this round) it can't hurt can it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But to be honest, whether it is a direct criteria or not (and the rugby league are not particularly clear for this round) it can't hurt can it.'"
True, but in the RFL's eyes it may not help.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Its called ' realism ' , something the fans of Wakefield will shortly have to face , and the fans of Championship clubs have faced for quite a while
And if all the RFL want is a sport of ' YES ' men , then perhaps SL isn't right for much of our sport , thats why we split from Union a hundred odd years ago , because they wanted ' yes ' men rather than the truth'"
But you're not a realist. You fancy yourself as one but you're just a pessimist and that's all you are.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But to be honest, whether it is a direct criteria or not (and the rugby league are not particularly clear for this round) it can't hurt can it.'"
It shouldn't deflect from why the lottery was set up in the first place, you're right.
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| Oh and RR sincere apologies for the swearing, drives me mad on my own board so I should have known better.
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Quote ="Chris Dalton"Dont be =#FF0000EDIT: patronising! You don't know starbug enough. He talks crap and always has. He is absolutely miserable and pours cold water on every optimist, even those from his own club who dare to have asprations of super league, which is probably why he considers good diplomacy "ass kissing".
As for learning something from him, if I was in a suicidal mood I might go to him for ideas, but by all means, go the rowley route and dummy spit. See where it gets you.
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Just seem to like him more than you - you are just trying to damn hard to justify what can't be justified for my tastes.
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Quote ="Chris Dalton"Dont be =#FF0000EDIT: patronising! You don't know starbug enough. He talks crap and always has. He is absolutely miserable and pours cold water on every optimist, even those from his own club who dare to have asprations of super league, which is probably why he considers good diplomacy "ass kissing".
As for learning something from him, if I was in a suicidal mood I might go to him for ideas, but by all means, go the rowley route and dummy spit. See where it gets you.
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Just seem to like him more than you - you are just trying to damn hard to justify what can't be justified for my tastes.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Oh and RR sincere apologies for the swearing, drives me mad on my own board so I should have known better.
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We don't swear on here Chris!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"We don't swear on here Chris!
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Wait until you get the like of starbug and littlerich on here permanently. You will then!
Seriously good luck for the decision. We've been there, it's heartbreaking and you just want to scream at the injustice but it's not the end of the world you think it is. Chins up come what may.
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| Quote ="vastman"Just seem to like him more than you - you are just trying to damn hard to justify what can't be justified for my tastes.'"
Well good job it's not a popularity contest! If it was I'd probably be in a very sorry state! Whether or not you personally like me is neither here nor there, I won't be learning anything from star bug and you may soon learn that if you become the front runners for a SL license in 2015 he will similarly drive you mad with his conspiracy theories and unwarranted moans about you and your club.
He insists that he doesn't want his club anywhere near super league but he is obsessed by the process.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Well good job it's not a popularity contest! If it was I'd probably be in a very sorry state!
Whether or not you personally like me is neither here nor there, I won't be learning anything from star bug and you may soon learn that if you become the front runners for a SL license in 2015 he will similarly drive you mad with his conspiracy theories and unwarranted moans about you and your club.
He insists that he doesn't want his club anywhere near super league but he is obsessed by the process.'"
I don't dislike you I just like him more - or what he writes at least.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"[uWait until you get the like of starbug and littlerich on here permanently. You will then![/u
Seriously good luck for the decision. We've been there, it's heartbreaking and you just want to scream at the injustice but it's not the end of the world you think it is. Chins up come what may.'"
Can soon stop that happening i've read and watched these guys and the are harmless if a touch boring but if the go on they''l soon be going off
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Wait until you get the like of starbug and littlerich on here permanently. You will then!
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I'm with you on that; along with SmokeyTA, Saddened and Phipps, these behemoths of the VT are living proof that it's easy to get a round of applause in a room full of morons.
If they moved in here with their endless pedantry, lengthy split-quote replies and deliberate sophistry, the place would soon be as empty as the Shudds board.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm with you on that; along with SmokeyTA, Saddened and Phipps, these behemoths of the VT are living proof that it's easy to get a round of applause in a room full of morons.
If they moved in here with their endless pedantry, lengthy split-quote replies and deliberate sophistry, the place would soon be as empty as the Shudds board.'"
Rich is alright, I was tongue in cheek about him!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm with you on that; along with SmokeyTA, Saddened and Phipps, these behemoths of the VT are living proof that it's easy to get a round of applause in a room full of morons.
If they moved in here with their endless pedantry, lengthy split-quote replies and deliberate sophistry, the place would soon be as empty as the Shudds board.'"
Just because we had a disagreement a while back , don't go comparing me to Smokey , and Rich hardly ever posts anything except one liners anyway
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm with you on that; along with SmokeyTA, Saddened and Phipps, these behemoths of the VT are living proof that it's easy to get a round of applause in a room full of morons.
If they moved in here with their endless pedantry, lengthy split-quote replies and deliberate sophistry, the place would soon be as empty as the Shudds board.'"
Harsh on starbug to be lumped in with those numpties, he's alright. You forgot to mention Dally now he's a bell end of great magnitude no doubt
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Well good job it's not a popularity contest! If it was I'd probably be in a very sorry state!
Whether or not you personally like me is neither here nor there, I won't be learning anything from star bug and you may soon learn that if you become the front runners for a SL license in 2015 he will similarly drive you mad with his conspiracy theories and unwarranted moans about you and your club.
He insists that he doesn't want his club anywhere near super league but he is obsessed by the process.'"
When Wakey start posting million pound profits the year after million pound losses I'll start the unwarranted moans
And you are wrong Chris , I do want Leigh in SL , as long as it's by winning promotion via a yearly sporting contest , or when Leigh are in a position similar to Widnes now , with a larger fan base and the various other positives you possess , whereupon they will be a potential SL franchisee
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| Quote ="Starbug"When Wakey start posting million pound profits the year after million pound losses I'll start the unwarranted moans
And you are wrong Chris ,=#FF0000 I do want Leigh in SL , as long as it's by winning promotion via a yearly sporting contest , or when Leigh are in a position similar to Widnes now , with a larger fan base and the various other positives you possess , whereupon they will be a potential SL franchisee'" and then you can go through the same process like Widnes are of buying players
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| Quote ="snowie"and then you can go through the same process like Widnes are of buying players
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Which is what pro RL teams do isn't it
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