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Was a timescale for the public enquiry discussed and are Yorkcourt still committed to the project?
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"To be fair GH was mentioned to give the Shareholders the ability to formaly reject any chance of considering it which they did so that end that.
There is a viable Plan B to cover us until Newmarket comes forward but has been said until all the i's have been dotted and the t's crossed the club do not wish to make a formal announcement. That will be done in conjunction with the other party at the appropriate time. Plan B is financially viable and would enable us to function satisfactorily until Newmarket is built.
The Club is seeking new investment, that's no secret, they have been seeking it for sometime now and have had setbacks and will continue to seek that investment but whether you wish to believe the fact that we have a Plan B or not is up those reading these forums.'"
This is the best and most accurate summary of the night |
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| Quote ="t drednowts is cumin!"Was a timescale for the public enquiry discussed and are Yorkcourt still committed to the project?'"
time scale is anything from 6 months to 18 months and Yorkcourt are still 100% onboard to deliver the stadium.
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| Quote ="TRB"Plan B - which has been in discussion for around 12 months - is likely to be what most people imagine it to be, but may not be. In deference to the other parties involved, and their own requirements to advise their own supporters of the deal, it was agreed that any announcement would come at a later date.
Those present were asked their views, as shareholders of the club, as to the feelings towards GH, and towards other loactions. Despite a couple of comments re GH, most were dead set against the idea.
It was confirmed that it is possible that we could stay at BV in the event of us not recieving a licence - at least until NM is built.NM is viable whether in SL or NL, but of course is ultimately based on SL.
There are other issues which were discussed and I would advise all existing Shareholders to ensure that they make sure the club have your correct details so that you can be mailed to.
Onwards and upwards!'"
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"To be fair GH was mentioned to give the Shareholders the ability to formaly reject any chance of considering it which they did so that end that.
There is a viable Plan B to cover us until Newmarket comes forward but has been said until all the i's have been dotted and the t's crossed the club do not wish to make a formal announcement. That will be done in conjunction with the other party at the appropriate time. Plan B is financially viable and would enable us to function satisfactorily until Newmarket is built.
The Club is seeking new investment, that's no secret, they have been seeking it for sometime now and have had setbacks and will continue to seek that investment but whether you wish to believe the fact that we have a Plan B or not is up those reading these forums.'"
Not having a go at you SC, but how can it be described as financially viable if we are in desperate straits already without having to pay rent to anyone - moving out of the area for a season will imo reduce the gates from regular fans, and there is no guarantee that the shortfall will be made up from new fans in the area the stadium we are to use is located. Unless Belle Vue is more expensive to run than the rent on the plan B |
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| Quote ="The Clan"Yeah!
You're right Tom, none of this half in half out stuff, if someone can't afford to buy shares as well as shirts, season tickets, merchandise and travelling costs then they should accept being treated as second class or they know what they can do.
I wonder how many have waited with baited breath for news of the clubs future and then having been treated with distain have said THAT'S IT!
Well said, I can't add much to that sentiment.'"
Transparency I think not 'The Clan
Seems to me things have changed quite a bit since the good Ol'Supporters Club days and our board are supposed to be supporters are they not.
In the name of god and limited companies we are not a branch of the Freemasons.
The words of Lennon seem quite poignant.... I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth
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| Quote ="t drednowts is cumin!"Was a timescale for the public enquiry discussed and are Yorkcourt still committed to the project?'"
Timescale in in the hands of the Planning Inspectorate and it could be anything between 6 and 18 months, however we are told that YorkCourt are still committed to the project and are confident that the Stadium WILL be delivered, it just the timing thats the issue. |
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Regarding the finance side of tonights meeting, would I be right in assuming that one of the things put to shareholders was about increasing the amount of cash coming into the club?
If so were the shareholders given options, yet another share deal and another option?
If so is the reality of enough cash being generated based on previous such deals, basically a dead end street?'"
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If its marketed properly moving out of town could increase support/interest from the Barnsley area.
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| Quote ="Töm"time scale is anything from 6 months to 18 months and Yorkcourt are still 100% onboard to deliver the stadium.
Which is some good news to come of it all'"
So worst case scenario would be 18 months enquiry,6 months getting full P/P then 12 months build which would mean 2 seasons of plan B? |
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Not having a go at you SC, but how can it be described as financially viable if we are in desperate straits already without having to pay rent to anyone - moving out of the area for a season will imo reduce the gates from regular fans, and there is no guarantee that the shortfall will be made up from new fans in the area the stadium we are to use is located. Unless Belle Vue is more expensive to run than the rent on the plan B'"
Tricky, we have no choice but to look at an alternative Stadium if we want to make an application. The alternative is not to apply and drop into the NL.
Belle Vue is an old Stadium which costs a great deal just to keep it in a run down state. Running costs on weekly basis and to put on SL matches is high. The cost of renting a modern stadium is less than the cost of keeping Belle Vue up to that standard - as you had already deduced.
Moving out of the area may reduce gates. I don't think so because I'm confident that our loyal fans will accept the short term pain for the long term gain - just my opinion but I believe it. I also think with better facilities we will attract more away support and the hospitality opportunities are better than Belle Vue. All in all a short term move away from Wakefield will not do us any long term harm - my opinion again.
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In reply to tricky the gate prices have been reduced.
For a one off payment of £30 you get to watch games for £10 like Catalan crusaders harlequins hull hudds warington etc £15 Leeds Wigan saints 18
Plus other membership bonuses
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"If its marketed properly moving out of town could increase support/interest from the Barnsley area.'" |
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| Quote ="t drednowts is cumin!"So worst case scenario would be 18 months enquiry,6 months getting full P/P then 12 months build which would mean 2 seasons of plan B?'"
yeah i guess so, on the flip side it could come back in 6 months and we only have 1 season away from wakefield. All down to this brilliant coalition government now |
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Anyone?'"
I'll take it, that's the big secret then!! |
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I'll take it, that's the big secret then!!'"
You would think it was ICI !!!
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| Quote ="The Trip"Poppycock. It has been tried before, Barnsley is firmly a football area and will always be. Don't even think you would get the novelty factor now as well.The club would lose more money than it obviously is being at BV. I had a group of businesses there for 10yrs so yes I know the area very well.'"
IMHO we will never attract any more fans from the Wakefield area so why not try else where. Has anybody been into Wakey town centre lately it is full of non English speaking people and these people are not going to come and watch rugby. From memory there aren't any communities like we have in Wakey in Castleford,Pontefract,Featherstone. WMDC seem to house them all in Wakefield. |
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| Quote ="Disney cat"IMHO we will never attract any more fans from the Wakefield area so why not try else where. Has anybody been into Wakey town centre lately it is full of non English speaking people and these people are not going to come and watch rugby. From memory there aren't any communities like we have in Wakey in Castleford,Pontefract,Featherstone. WMDC seem to house them all in Wakefield.'"
Why build a new ground in Wakey then ? Sounds like your advocating re-locating the club. With a competitive, professionally run club of course the crowds would return.Everything is just so negative about the club at present. |
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| Quote ="Disney cat"IMHO we will never attract any more fans from the Wakefield area so why not try else where. Has anybody been into Wakey town centre lately it is full of non English speaking people and these people are not going to come and watch rugby. From memory there aren't any communities like we have in Wakey in Castleford,Pontefract,Featherstone. WMDC seem to house them all in Wakefield.'"
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| Quote ="Disney cat"IMHO we will never attract any more fans from the Wakefield area so why not try else where. Has anybody been into Wakey town centre lately it is full of non English speaking people and these people are not going to come and watch rugby. From memory there aren't any communities like we have in Wakey in Castleford,Pontefract,Featherstone. WMDC seem to house them all in Wakefield.'"
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Why don't we try attract the many EU citizens who choose to make Wakefield their home seeing as those born here couldn't care less?
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| Quote ="t drednowts is cumin!"IMHO thats racist nonsense! WDH house people not the council and non english speakers are just as likely to enjoy the game as anyone else.
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