I'm with you on that one!

Lets get some facts straight, shall we?

1) Newmarket will be built using private funds - no input from Trin or WMDC required, which is just as well seeing as Trin have no money and WMDC look set to be shafted by the new Govt. It will not be Trinitys ground, but a Wakefield Metropolitan (and I include Castleford in that) Stadium

2) Glasshoughton is a lovely project, but lacks those private funds and so is looking for help from WMDC or Trin to top up - IMO two chances, slim and none! The only dosh around is with Yorkcourt, and they are not a charity desparately trying to build a stadium somewhere! They want their [iquid pro quo[/i in the form of the rest of the development.

3) Glasshoughton is not Castleford, it's just near Castleford, so wherever Tigers move to they're moving out of Cas which is , when all said and done, just a small town in Wakefield

So why not move to another stadium that's also not in Cas?

4) BOTH teams future depends on Newmarket!!! At the very least it will allow Cas time to re-group and strengthen their finances, and who knows may allow them to spend a bit more on players and be competitive (before the squeals start, I acknowledge that we could do with a bit of that as well!)

Like it or not, we're in the same boat - and should both be praying for this development to go ahead!

obviously crowds in the lower leagues are lower.once all the fairweather fans stop going.

like i said the true supporters would be there.

what you are saying is if we got relegated (however it came about) you would rather watch a SL team than wakefield trinity.

i am sure if you ask any supporter of these clubs you refer to they will tell you that the real supporters are still there.

any merged team would not represent wakefield even if they built a new stadium (assumably out of fairy dust and magic beans) at normanton lets say.

the new club would just become normanton !

look if we lose the franchise then we lose the franchise, Wakefield Trinity is still the team i love i will still have a season ticket be it in national league 1 or 2 even the bloody Wakefield league!
if there was a merger then i would be upset yes but i would still support that team and probably grow to love the two but i would still hold the memories of my beloved trinity close to my heart!

I wish you well in your project and really hope both clubs get their respective stadiums but that is the biggest load of bile I've read in a long time on here, and trust me, there are some contenders.

Firstly, regards number 2 - no one knows the state of the stadium but I can guarantee things are progressing and it will be built in some form or another, whether it is built in phases or built in full.

Number 3, Glasshoughton is an area of Castleford, just like Airedale, just like Whitwood and just like Baghill, Monkhill, Carleton in Pontefract. Last time I saw it was written, Glasshoughton, Castleford on addresses.

As for number 4, lol. That's all I have to say. That seems to me to be a Wakey fan pleaing for help in his side's struggle. It shouldn't be like this but unfortunately it is.

I need a rest from the media, the that is coming out unbelievable they should be loaded with shot guns instead of cameras,

I wouldn't want to skip time but at present just knowing the situation about the ground would settle my nerves and as for JK

are we that much of a threat that you need to take him away from us

No, it's just that quality coaches are rare, at least demonstrated by what John Kear has achieved and created for Wakefield.

It's much easier to coach with a side winning trophies, with a big name and with financial backing but it's harder to coach a side nearer the bottom.

If, and that's a big if, the stories are true, it's only because Catalans have huge potential and Kear has the credentials to fulfil that potential.

It's a stupid article because it has a fundamental flaw, and that is the merged team will be just as stadium-less as the three individual clubs. The merger won't succeed because of location, as Wakey fans won't go to Glasshougton and Cas fans won't go to Newmarket. And Gaslights argument that we should go to Glasshoughtonbecause it's next to a tourist attraction is clutching at straws. If that is the best argument for Glasshoughton, then it doesn't have mch going for it. Using that analogy, we should all go and play at Alton Towers.

The threat from the RFL was about stadia. Merger does not take that any further forward. The stadium likeliest to get built first is Newmarket, and if so, who cares about merger? If it gets approved before the franchise application, we could just look to play somewhere else until it's finished, as Saints had proposed to do. Like Oakwell.

You presume too much,
1) I said if there was a merged side I would watch them, I never said I wouldn't watch Wakefield trinity. This side would still be representing the city of wakefileld after all.
2) your use of the terms fairweather and true fan, would leave you nodoubt delighted on the empty terraces like other lower league clubs with no chance of promotion, the chances of any lower league club going up is getting slimmer year on year due to the franchise criteria and expansionism, there's more value on being in a "breakthrough" area than having a history!
Again reality check.

I agree Slugger. The merger and stadium issues are completely different issues. Neither helps the other.

For the record I would always watch a Wakefield side. If we share a stadium I'll still go. If we merge and a lower level team starts at Belle Vue I'll probably watch that one. Depends on how the merger happened and its identity. If it really was a genuine merger where everyone agreed to it and club was still a Wakefield club Id watch that one first.

And that is the fundamental difficulty, really. I would watch a merged side if it was a Wakefield side. Its the locations offered that make it difficult, because each one is more in the others patch, which will alienate the other side. I would watch a merged side at Newmarket, but I wouldn't watch one at Glasshoughton, because for me it wouldn't be a Wakefield side, it would be a Castleford side.

The merged side would not play at Glasshoughton anyway, because the organisation who are prepared to fund the stadium want to build it at Newmarket, because they want to build everything else that goes with it. So fine, lets merge and play at Newmarket. I could live with that. I don't think Cas will, and so we end up with one article based on one man's opinion, which is less valid than the opinions expressed on here as it ignores the one issue that the RFL is really bothered about, and that is the stadium.

As for playing at Belle Vue, that has been sold, and so I think we will move out until the new stadium is sorted and base our franchise application on a stadium that would already meet the criteria.

Bloody hell, touchy or what! There's no bile here, just a little leg pull about Glasshoughton not being Cas!

Regards number 2, the Cas stadium may be built in stages - it just depends on whether Stage 1 is good enough for the RFL! As I pointed out, a move to a community stadium at Newmarket (assuming it goes ahead) MIGHT buy you some time!

Regards number 4 (reaches for Hammer and Chisel here!) Wakefield DO NOT NEED YOUR HELP OR YOUR MONEY!! The money is YORKCOURTS. HAVE YOU GOT THAT!! If only I could think of some words with less than 1 syllable!!

The main thing to remember is that there wasn't much news about and Mr. Wilson needed to fill a column!

If you have got the land and the topsoil has been scraped back ready for building and the roads are in, and if you have any money at all why hasnt work been started already on the build. Surely if you are going to build it in stages to lighten the initial cost of the stadium it would be well under construction already with say a couple of stands being put up and the rest at a later date when more finances are available.

J32 doesn't have planning permission until an access road is built. FACT.

The owner won't sell and CT and Waystones have asked for a compulsory land purchase. That won't happen because WMDC is broke.

That apart J32 was (and still is) hinged on The Jungle being sold and that CANT happen until a chemical lincense is revoked.

Can't happen/ Won't happen (you pick)... We (WT and CT) should have swallowed their pride years ago and gone down the ground share route...

J32 is even more shafted that Thornes Park.

I never meant money in the slightest. More the fact it would be easier to push through planning permission if Cas joined for Newmarket because it would then be what the district wants, not what Wakefield want.

For the simple fact we don't have full planning permission but that will be submitted in the near future. The full designs are nearing completion and should be available within the next few weeks from what I hear.

Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"J32 doesn't have planning permission until an access road is built. FACT.'" J32 has outline planning permission (more than Wakefield) and we will be submitting full planning permission soon. FACT. Quote The owner won't sell and CT and Waystones have asked for a compulsory land purchase. That won't happen because WMDC is broke. '" Any costs are billed to Waystone from what I read of the article, therefore costs will be recouped by WMDC. Actually, here is what is said in the YEP article: Quote The authority says that an undertaking to use 'reasonable endeavours' on behalf of the developer would not directly cost any money, apart from legal fees and time of officers. Any costs that are incurred could be recouped under the terms of an agreement with the developer, the report adds.'" www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnew ... 6242832.jp Quote That apart J32 was (and still is) hinged on The Jungle being sold and that CANT happen until a chemical lincense is revoked.'" The Jungle has been sold for an agreed fee (from what I can remember) and you're right it cannot be built on until the chemical licence is revoked but WMDC are eager to get that removed quickly because it is preventing the rest of the development near the river from being done. Quote J32 is even more shafted that Thornes Park.'" In your opinion. In my opinion it is still very much ahead of Newmarket and from what I've read on here and from other people on that front, will probably still be.

Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"J32 doesn't have planning permission until an access road is built. FACT.'" J32 has outline planning permission (more than Wakefield) and we will be submitting full planning permission soon. FACT. Quote The owner won't sell and CT and Waystones have asked for a compulsory land purchase. That won't happen because WMDC is broke. '" Any costs are billed to Waystone from what I read of the article, therefore costs will be recouped by WMDC. Actually, here is what is said in the YEP article: Quote The authority says that an undertaking to use 'reasonable endeavours' on behalf of the developer would not directly cost any money, apart from legal fees and time of officers. Any costs that are incurred could be recouped under the terms of an agreement with the developer, the report adds.'" www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnew ... 6242832.jp Quote That apart J32 was (and still is) hinged on The Jungle being sold and that CANT happen until a chemical lincense is revoked.'" The Jungle has been sold for an agreed fee (from what I can remember) and you're right it cannot be built on until the chemical licence is revoked but WMDC are eager to get that removed quickly because it is preventing the rest of the development near the river from being done. Quote J32 is even more shafted that Thornes Park.'" In your opinion. In my opinion it is still very much ahead of Newmarket and from what I've read on here and from other people on that front, will probably still be.

Quote ="Fully"J32 has outline planning permission (more than Wakefield) and we will be submitting full planning permission soon. FACT. Any costs are billed to Waystone from what I read of the article, therefore costs will be recouped by WMDC. Actually, here is what is said in the YEP article: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnew ... 6242832.jp The Jungle has been sold for an agreed fee (from what I can remember) and you're right it cannot be built on until the chemical licence is revoked but WMDC are eager to get that removed quickly because it is preventing the rest of the development near the river from being done. In your opinion. In my opinion it is still very much ahead of Newmarket and from what I've read on here and from other people on that front, will probably still be.'" I hope you're right, and I hope you get your stadium, and I hope its in time for the next franchise round. I'll be very happy for you. But your stadium and ours are two separate entities - neither proposal has any impact on the other, both are financed separately in our case by a developer and in yours by the club and Waystone. Even if you decided to pull out of your stadium ours would not be any more or less viable. All I've suggested is that a stadium at Newmarket MAY buy you time if you need it - that's not to say that if Cas came on board the stadium would be more likely - it makes not one jot of difference to the development!

Quote ="Fully"J32 has outline planning permission (more than Wakefield) and we will be submitting full planning permission soon. FACT. Any costs are billed to Waystone from what I read of the article, therefore costs will be recouped by WMDC. Actually, here is what is said in the YEP article: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnew ... 6242832.jp The Jungle has been sold for an agreed fee (from what I can remember) and you're right it cannot be built on until the chemical licence is revoked but WMDC are eager to get that removed quickly because it is preventing the rest of the development near the river from being done. In your opinion. In my opinion it is still very much ahead of Newmarket and from what I've read on here and from other people on that front, will probably still be.'" I hope you're right, and I hope you get your stadium, and I hope its in time for the next franchise round. I'll be very happy for you. But your stadium and ours are two separate entities - neither proposal has any impact on the other, both are financed separately in our case by a developer and in yours by the club and Waystone. Even if you decided to pull out of your stadium ours would not be any more or less viable. All I've suggested is that a stadium at Newmarket MAY buy you time if you need it - that's not to say that if Cas came on board the stadium would be more likely - it makes not one jot of difference to the development!

Quote ="Fully"J32 has outline planning permission (more than Wakefield) and we will be submitting full planning permission soon. FACT. Any costs are billed to Waystone from what I read of the article, therefore costs will be recouped by WMDC. Actually, here is what is said in the YEP article: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnew ... 6242832.jp The Jungle has been sold for an agreed fee (from what I can remember) and you're right it cannot be built on until the chemical licence is revoked but WMDC are eager to get that removed quickly because it is preventing the rest of the development near the river from being done. In your opinion. In my opinion it is still very much ahead of Newmarket and from what I've read on here and from other people on that front, will probably still be.'" Don't wish to get into an argument with you - but before quoting 'facts' you should make sure they are correct. It may be a technicality - but you do not have outline PP if you don't sign the 106 agreement - which I understand Waystone have, thus far, been unwilling to do. That's not to say they wouldn't - if circumstances were right. A small, but potentially significant, point.

Quote ="Fully"J32 has outline planning permission (more than Wakefield) and we will be submitting full planning permission soon. FACT. Any costs are billed to Waystone from what I read of the article, therefore costs will be recouped by WMDC. Actually, here is what is said in the YEP article: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/localnew ... 6242832.jp The Jungle has been sold for an agreed fee (from what I can remember) and you're right it cannot be built on until the chemical licence is revoked but WMDC are eager to get that removed quickly because it is preventing the rest of the development near the river from being done. In your opinion. In my opinion it is still very much ahead of Newmarket and from what I've read on here and from other people on that front, will probably still be.'" Don't wish to get into an argument with you - but before quoting 'facts' you should make sure they are correct. It may be a technicality - but you do not have outline PP if you don't sign the 106 agreement - which I understand Waystone have, thus far, been unwilling to do. That's not to say they wouldn't - if circumstances were right. A small, but potentially significant, point.

Yes, I know that and don't know for whatever reason it hasn't been signed but still, if and when it is, we still have it.

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Keyboard problems?

He does seem to have problems with the £'s - a bit like Cas' stadium, if you think about it.

Don't you think the bun fight should stop now?