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| Quote ="TRB"On what planet? I'm sorry, but in this climate you can divide that by 2 - even if you have an agreement in place for it.
This damned recession is causing a lot of clubs a lot of grief, and what really annoys me is the attitude of some of those more fortunate through circumstance and their failure to acknowledge their good fortune - be it through a more helpful local authority or from a sugar daddy or from the presence of a puffball club
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Come on TRB you are better than that and better than them, if you let those fools get to you, you may as well pack it in.
Lets fight them on the beaches
You know what goes around comes around
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| Quote ="Fully"As I said above, that money is dependent on the licence being revoked from C6 Solutions.
My guess is that the Council know this hence why we've been given the land. We can borrow £X against it for the stadium, and then repay the money owed when we finally get the money from The Jungle sale.'"
My guess is the Council have pledged the land to both clubs (trust funds) to raise capital because the council are skint and cannot invest money in all 3 clubs.
This is the problem now for Cas shortfall of funds to start. Wakefield have the funds in place but are behind on planning, The land pledged would still have to be assessed for building etc and a developer found to buy the land for the trusts thats not eassy at the moment IMHO
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Come on TRB you are better than that and better than them, if you let those fools get to you, you may as well pack it in.
Lets fight them on the beaches
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I know, I know. Hence the 'Chew on this' comment as I knew there would be barely any support for us on the VT.
I try not to let it affect what I do, but it does pee me off still!
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"My guess is the Council have pledged the land to both clubs (trust funds) to raise capital because the council are skint and cannot invest money in all 3 clubs.
This is the problem now for Cas shortfall of funds to start. Wakefield have the funds in place but are behind on planning, The land pledged would still have to be assessed for building etc and a developer found to buy the land for the trusts thats not eassy at the moment IMHO'"
I thought the land loaned to the trusts was not for sale, it is merely an asset on which to borrow money against, a guarantee if you will. No developer needs to be found.
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| Quote ="TRB"I know, I know. Hence the 'Chew on this' comment as I knew there would be barely any support for us on the VT.
I try not to let it affect what I do, but it does pee me off still!
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Half the posters on the VT are of their rockers mate, its like one big trash can, then we have the BITTER ones who will try to undermine anything Wakey, or indeed anything at all in some cases.
You need to feed off the bad feeling and turn it into energy to drive you on, a bit like Bran flakes with sugar on
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Half the posters on the VT are of their rockers mate, its like one big trash can, then we have the BITTER ones who will try to undermine anything Wakey, or indeed anything at all in some cases.
You need to feed off the bad feeling and turn it into energy to drive you on, a bit like Bran flakes with sugar on
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Oh don't worry - it does drive me on. I just hope that we would be a little bit more hospicious when we're one of the fortunate ones.
But for now: 'We are Wakefield, nobody likes us and we don't give a "£$%'
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| As daft as it sounds, I prefer them to be all negative towards the stadium, that way when things come to fruition it will make it that much sweeter rubbing their noses in it. Still, there is a poster on the totalRL forums who has found the need to criticise the likelihood that the stadium will be of similar design to the HJ, LSV or the Stobart as opposed to the KC or Galpharm.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"As daft as it sounds, I prefer them to be all negative towards the stadium, that way when things come to fruition it will make it that much sweeter rubbing their noses in it. Still, there is a poster on the totalRL forums who has found the need to criticise the likelihood that the stadium will be of similar design to the HJ, LSV or the Stobart as opposed to the KC or Galpharm.'"
We would ALL prefer a nice fully enclosed facility - but most of us understand that the choice between a LSV type facility and nothing is not difficult to make!
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| Quote ="TRB"
But for now: 'We are Wakefield, nobody likes us and we don't give a "£$%'
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Thats how it will always be, Backs against the wall etc.
Btw mods hasnt trb just broken the swear filter
Cant be seen to favouring your own
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| Quote ="TRB"We would ALL prefer a nice fully enclosed facility - but most of us understand that the choice between a LSV type facility and nothing is not difficult to make!
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I think it stems from a point you raise, the supporters of the fortunate clubs who have benefited from having a football club in the town city perhaps don’t realise the difficulty in getting a stadium off the ground with RL as the primary driver. They then sit in their ivory tower damning others efforts without the slightest thought on how fortunate they were being in the right place at the right time.
Had the Durkar cricket ground complex come off back in the 90’s then Wakefield would have been as equally fortunate, but I wouldn’t then have poored scorn over clubs who do not find themselves in such a favourable position.
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| Quote ="TRB"We would ALL prefer a nice fully enclosed facility - but most of us understand that the choice between a LSV type facility and nothing is not difficult to make!
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I suppose I like most, know that small steps forward are what is needed at this time, and know that you and your fellow workers are doing all they can, and much more than the rest of us!
Maybe after all the downers over the last 10 years we need the result more than most? we think we are not wanted By SL and the other clubs, as to be honest I think cas do,and as soon as this debate rages i think it brings it home how much we love the game and the friends we have and make going to the games. I, for one, know i laugh,shout, swear,sing, and leap up and down more during the season more than I ever would outside it, and long may that continue!
So no pressure mate...but the very best of luck in securing what we all want, any negativity on my part is not about your efforts, its mainly fear of the worst, and what Id lose.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I think it stems from a point you raise, the supporters of the fortunate clubs who have benefited from having a football club in the town city perhaps don’t realise the difficulty in getting a stadium off the ground with RL as the primary driver. They then sit in their ivory tower damning others efforts without the slightest thought on how fortunate they were being in the right place at the right time.
Had the Durkar cricket ground complex come off back in the 90’s then Wakefield would have been as equally fortunate, but I wouldn’t then have poored scorn over clubs who do not find themselves in such a favourable position.'"
True but you are not bitter and twisted
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| Got told 12 months ago that it will be ground share but i was told it would be Glasshoughton not stanley not sure now where will happen but i feel both Council and RLF are playing Cas and Wakie of against each other knowing that neither will wont to share and both new grounds will fail.
And by the way Wakie are know where near the funding they saying they are same has Cas.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"If you think he's got away with, you would be wrong
Now back on topic or you'll be away again icon_wink.gif'"
Oh %"!!*%^£
If ground sharing means we can stay in the top flight im all for it, and if it gets down to the wire, i wouldnt be totally against the glasshoughton venture . Its stay in SL or nothing for me.
I would follow them in NL but how long they'd exist there i darent to think.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Oh %"!!*%^£
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I can't decifer that so your in the clear this time
Ona serious note we will uphold the filter.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"Got told 12 months ago that it will be ground share but i was told it would be Glasshoughton not stanley not sure now where will happen but i feel both Council and RLF are playing Cas and Wakie of against each other knowing that neither will wont to share and both new grounds will fail.
And by the way Wakie are know where near the funding they saying they are same has Cas.'"
A lot has changed in 12 months, the Thornes Park proposal was still on the cards back then so with what the council knew it’s no surprise that whispers came out proclaiming Glasshoughton as the more viable project.
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| Pardon my ignorance whats 'the VT'
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"Got told 12 months ago that it will be ground share but i was told it would be Glasshoughton not stanley not sure now where will happen but i feel both Council and RLF are playing Cas and Wakie of against each other knowing that neither will wont to share and both new grounds will fail.
And by the way Wakie are know where near the funding they saying they are same has Cas.'"
Pick all this up at board level did you?
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| Quote ="Walrus"Pardon my ignorance whats 'the VT'
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The 'Virtual Terrace' on here!
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| Quote ="Walrus"Pardon my ignorance whats 'the VT'
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The [url=http://viewforum.php?f=2"Virtual Terrace"[/url, home to many a muppet and wannabe RL club board member.
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| Quote ="Walrus"Pardon my ignorance whats 'the VT'
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It’s where TRB went fishing, it’s full of hate & loathing .
He may as well have gone to the Tora Bora region - with a copy of the New Testament.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"Got told 12 months ago that it will be ground share but i was told it would be Glasshoughton not stanley not sure now where will happen but i feel both Council and RLF are playing Cas and Wakie of against each other knowing that neither will wont to share and both new grounds will fail.
And by the way Wakie are know where near the funding they saying they are same has Cas.'"
If that were true they are both wasting a lot of money on the designs and PR etc.
I have some pretty good contacts (only friends who are close to board members on both sides) and both parties say they are pretty keen on their own ground. Cas especially as that contact has business interests in the new stadium so should know more.
So I'm not saying it won't happen as in present climate it could still be a good idea....but I'm pretty sure no one is planning for it now and def not a year ago!
As for the funding.....no one else in Britain is getting the funding they thought they were getting a year ago either. No one has the money any more.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"It’s where TRB went fishing, it’s full of hate & loathing
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If I was a troll and was looking for a bite, then I would have been straight into the top 10 in terms of the volume of replies generated.
Somewhere down the line either I, or they, will be made to look foolish. Do I seem worried!
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